Its not well organized .
theyd better do a month in the o2 s prince did , or some 6 shows at wembley stadium

wipeacdc@hotmail.com
never too old or young to rocknroll!!!!!!

the "other guy" was a very important part of the equation. dare i say it more than Bonham. he was far more than a bass player. even when he was a session bass player his arrangment skills were often called into use, even more than Page far more he will ever be credited for for a lot of work he did. do you think REM called him in to do string arrangements on some random whim.
his role in a re-union is gonna be vital when it comes to pacing and dynamics, considering that neither Page or Plant are the young whippersnappers they once were.
it could go very spinal tap ig either are careless throwing shapes, i can see the roadies running on to get Jimmy back of the floor if he trys ine time too many to do that classic lean back pose.

Barn Owl Wrote:
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> I have been wondering as to whether Led Zeppelin
> will have the equivalent of a "Rattlesnake Club"
> where patronising hangers-on, desperate wannabies
> and awestruck star-spotters can congregate
> together, each pretending to be interested in each
> other's conversation as well as acting cool and
> detached whenever a Z-List celebrity walks by.
>
> It would be so nice to walk up to Ronnie Wood at
> one of these gatherings and say, "Hey Woody...you
> know how much that last painting of yours is
> worth? F**k All!!!"
>
> The always excellent Adrian L has a great
> expression for these types. Pond Life.


Mr Owl, I LOVE your spleen!

Han Wrote:
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> From The Independent
>
> Led Zeppelin: Stairway to purgatory
>
> Led Zeppelin have decided to reform. It's a
> terrible idea, says the band's historian, Nigel
> Williamson
> Published: 14 September 2007
>
> The morning after Led Zeppelin received their
> Lifetime Achievement award at the Grammys in Los
> Angeles in 2005, I sat drinking tea with Robert
> Plant in the kitchen of Real World's studios in
> Box, Wiltshire. Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones had
> attended the ceremony but Plant had decided to
> stay at home in order to rehearse with his current
> band, Strange Sensation.
>
> Needless to say, his former colleagues weren't
> pleased by his failure to turn up and Page had
> publicly vented his displeasure. "I see Jimmy had
> a bit of a go at me for not being there," Plant
> told me. "But what can you do? What I'm doing now
> is more important to me. This veneration of one
> period of one's life is pointless. It's great to
> look back and smile. But middle-aged self
> congratulation is very dangerous."
>
> Yet following recent reunions by The Police,
> Genesis, Crowded House, Spice Girls and Take That,
> it was announced this week that Plant, Page and
> Jones, together with Jason Bonham, son of the
> group's late drummer, John Bonham, will reunite
> for the first time since 1988, when they played a
> half-hour set at a 40th birthday celebration for
> Atlantic Records at Madison Square Garden in New
> York.
>
> On that occasion Plant forgot the words of
> "Kashmir", Page lost his way in the middle of the
> guitar solo on "Heartbreaker" and the pair had an
> almighty row over whether they should play
> "Stairway To Heaven" (Plant didn't want to sing it
> and Page was adamant that the world expected it).
> In the end, they did play it but Plant
> subsequently denounced the gig as "foul" and Page
> admitted it was "one big disappointment".
>
> Their only other reunion since the band's break-up
> following Bonham's death in 1980, when they played
> Live Aid in Philadelphia in 1985, was similarly
> disappointing.
>
> Indeed, their performance was so poor that when
> Live Aid eventually came out in DVD format some 20
> years later, Led Zeppelin refused to allow their
> contribution to be included in the package. Plant
> subsequently described their performance as "a
> @#$%& atrocity" and likened it to Frank Sinatra
> singing "My Way".
>
> Forgive me, then, if I don't join the general
> euphoria that has greeted the announcement that
> the band they called The Hammer of the Gods are to
> tread the boards once more at the O2 Arena in east
> London in November. But don't get me wrong. I'm as
> much of a Led Zeppelin fan as the next man. I
> first saw them play at the Royal Albert Hall in
> January 1970 when I was a 16-year-old hippie with
> hair halfway down my back in a schoolboy imitation
> of Plant's leonine mane and which I shook with
> wild and woolly abandon when they played "Whole
> Lotta Love".
>
> I bought all their albums as soon as they came
> out, was at their "comeback" concert at Knebworth
> in 1979 and I mourned Bonham's death and the
> band's consequent demise in 1980. But, to be
> completely frank, that's where Led Zeppelin should
> be left.
>
> Recently, I spent six months writing The Rough
> Guide to Led Zeppelin, a labour of love that gave
> me the excuse to listen repeatedly to all of the
> old records again and to spend happy hours
> watching footage of them in their pomp as the
> greatest rock'*'roll band in the world on the Led
> Zeppelin DVD. It brought back some wonderful
> memories and, as Plant told me, "it's good to look
> back and smile". But you can't turn back the clock
> and put those memories back up on stage as if the
> last 27 years never happened.
>
> When Page and Plant last got back together in the
> Nineties, they at least had something new to say.
> First on the MTV Unledded project, they reinvented
> favourites from the band's classic repertoire in
> startling new fashion with the addition of an
> Egyptian ensemble and the London Metropolitan
> Orchestra.
>
> Jones was miffed not to be told about the
> recording, let alone invited to join them, but
> Plant, in particular, was desperate for it to be
> seen as a new project and not a reincarnation of
> Led Zeppelin.
>
> Again without Jones, Page and Plant followed in
> 1997 with Walking into Clarksdale, an album of
> entirely new material, which they toured for a
> year. The record was widely regarded as a
> disappointment and a pale reflection of former
> glories, but at least they were trying. This time
> there is no new material and no pretence that
> getting back together is anything more than a
> blatantly sentimental exercise in cheap
> nostalgia.
>
> So, given that their only two previous reunions
> have been disasters, why are they doing it? The
> attraction for Page is obvious. With only one solo
> album to his name (1988's Outrider) and a series
> of failed attempts to find a Zeppelin substitute
> in lacklustre collaborations with Paul Rodgers,
> David Coverdale and the Black Crowes, his
> post-Zeppelin career has never taken off.
>
> In recent years, he has been more than content to
> live on his Zeppelin laurels, remastering the old
> albums, compiling DVDs and dusting down old tapes
> for live albums such as Led Zeppelin BBC Sessions
> and How the West Was Won. He's delighted every
> time Led Zeppelin are given some new award or
> honour and invariably turns up in person, beaming
> with pride and pleasure. The last time I
> interviewed him, in 2005, I asked whether he ever
> got frustrated that the world was only interested
> in his role in a band that broke up when he was
> only 36 years old. He seemed baffled by the
> question. "Not at all, because if you look at it
> from my point of view it was a great life in
> Zeppelin," he responded. I then asked if he
> planned to make a new record.
>
> "What I need to be doing is making a new musical
> statement," he admitted. "Now's the time to do
> something that makes people say, 'I didn't think
> you'd do that but I can really see why you've done
> it.' We'll see what we come up with. I'm not
> retired yet if that's what you're thinking."
>
> Two years on there's still no sign of a "new
> musical statement". There's just a Led Zeppelin
> reunion. And as for John Paul Jones, having been
> excluded from Page and Plant's joint ventures in
> the Nineties, he's probably just glad that his old
> colleagues could still remember his phone number.
>
> The real surprise is Plant. Of all of the
> surviving Zeppelin members, he is the one who has
> remained a creative force. Next month he releases
> Raising Sand, a quite wonderful new album recorded
> in Nashville with the bluegrass singer Alison
> Krauss which has already been described by Uncut
> editor Allan Jones as "may be the best thing he's
> done in nigh on 30 years". Sadly, in the brouhaha
> surrounding the reunion, the record will probably
> sink without trace.
>
> That said, of course I hope to be there on 26
> November and I won't even moan about the £125
> ticket price because, after all, it is for a
> charitable cause. But thank heavens it is a
> one-off and that the hotel managers of the world
> can rest easy that it's not a year-long global
> tour.
>
>
> Nigel Williamson's 'Rough Guide To Led Zeppelin'
> is published by Penguin/Rough Guides at £9.99


Excellent piece.

Nanker Phlegm Wrote:
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> the "other guy" was a very important part of the
> equation. dare i say it more than Bonham. he was
> far more than a bass player. even when he was a
> session bass player his arrangment skills were
> often called into use, even more than Page far
> more he will ever be credited for for a lot of
> work he did. do you think REM called him in to do
> string arrangements on some random whim.
> his role in a re-union is gonna be vital when it
> comes to pacing and dynamics, considering that
> neither Page or Plant are the young
> whippersnappers they once were.
> it could go very spinal tap ig either are careless
> throwing shapes, i can see the roadies running on
> to get Jimmy back of the floor if he trys ine time
> too many to do that classic lean back pose.


If, on their '95 and '98 tours, Page and Plant had wanted to call themselves "Led Zeppelin" instead of "Jimmy Page and Robert Plant" they could have done so. They would have been able to sell out stadiums instead of arenas. No one would have been able to resist tickets that said "Led Zeppelin" on them. That is the power of their brand name. In the same way that John and Paul were the Beatles, Mick and Keith are the Stones, and Pete and Roger are the Who, no one would have minded that Jones wasn't there. No one would have said "Hey, what about the other guy?"

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So now they're saying that although they may have gotten 20 million hits on the first day of registration, only 1 million people actually registered for tickets. Getting them is still a long shot. Roughly a 1 in 142 chance if you figure that 7,000 people will be selected to buy the 14,000 available ticktets, but what if they add a second show and don't take any more applications? Then it's 1 in 71. SOMEBODY we know is gonna get in and, hopefully, they'll post a review here.



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tatters Wrote:
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>
> If, on their '95 and '98 tours, Page and Plant had
> wanted to call themselves "Led Zeppelin" instead
> of "Jimmy Page and Robert Plant" they could have
> done so. They would have been able to sell out
> stadiums instead of arenas. No one would have been
> able to resist tickets that said "Led Zeppelin" on
> them. That is the power of their brand name. In
> the same way that John and Paul were the Beatles,
> Mick and Keith are the Stones, and Pete and Roger
> are the Who, no one would have minded that Jones
> wasn't there. No one would have said "Hey, what
> about the other guy?"

wrong.
mick and keith are not The Rolling Stones. check out the credits sometime, i think there's still a few of their albums in print, like all of them.

Pete and Roger are not The Who, as Pete has said many times in many ways over the years. And the next time you hear a Who song on the radio or tv, i'll bet you a hundred bucks US it's moonie and ox on the bill. and thus it will forever be.

even outside of generic 'rock' music, into pop r&b, diana ross was selling out solo all over the world any time she toured and then decided to do a Supremes reunion. She showed up with fake background singers and her entire world tour tanked. sometimes, tho often rarely, the great masses don't sit for a hunk of cheese when they ordered a fine dinner, each course complementing the other with it's own magical chemistry.

Beelyboy Wrote:
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> tatters Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > If, on their '95 and '98 tours, Page and Plant
> had
> > wanted to call themselves "Led Zeppelin"
> instead
> > of "Jimmy Page and Robert Plant" they could
> have
> > done so. They would have been able to sell out
> > stadiums instead of arenas. No one would have
> been
> > able to resist tickets that said "Led Zeppelin"
> on
> > them. That is the power of their brand name. In
> > the same way that John and Paul were the
> Beatles,
> > Mick and Keith are the Stones, and Pete and
> Roger
> > are the Who, no one would have minded that
> Jones
> > wasn't there. No one would have said "Hey, what
> > about the other guy?"
>
> wrong.
> mick and keith are not The Rolling Stones. check
> out the credits sometime, i think there's still a
> few of their albums in print, like all of them.
>
> Pete and Roger are not The Who, as Pete has said
> many times in many ways over the years. And the
> next time you hear a Who song on the radio or tv,
> i'll bet you a hundred bucks US it's moonie and ox
> on the bill. and thus it will forever be.
>
> even outside of generic 'rock' music, into pop
> r&b, diana ross was selling out solo all over the
> world any time she toured and then decided to do a
> Supremes reunion. She showed up with fake
> background singers and her entire world tour
> tanked. sometimes, tho often rarely, the great
> masses don't sit for a hunk of cheese when they
> ordered a fine dinner, each course complementing
> the other with it's own magical chemistry.


When I say that Keith and Mick are the Stones what I mean is that people would ACCEPT Keith and Mick as the Stones. If Charlie were to quit, and Ronnie were to .... well .... not be there, people would still go to see the Rolling Stones even if Keith and Mick were the only remaining longstanding members. This is already the situation with the Who. Fans accept that it's a Who concert even without John and Keith. And fans would also accept that it's a Led Zeppelin concert even without John and John Paul.