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Re: Citizenship of The Stones?
Posted by: oldkr ()
Date: May 14, 2007 15:16

sssoul, tis true the US allows you to keep your original citizenship in some (in fact most) cases but in the eyes of the US government when you pledge to the flag you are a US citizen only, in their eyes.

and you can recinde british citizenship too, so the fact that they were all born british citizens could be changed.

OLDKR



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Re: Citizenship of The Stones?
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: May 14, 2007 15:18

oldkr Wrote:
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> sssoul, tis true the US allows you to keep your
> original citizenship in some (in fact most) cases
> but in the eyes of the US government when you
> pledge to the flag you are a US citizen only, in
> their eyes.
>
> OLDKR


That's probably the case, but Keith defo still has UK Citizenship.

Re: Citizenship
Posted by: paulywaul ()
Date: May 14, 2007 15:44

with sssoul Wrote:
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> >> And as for dual-nationality, when you aquire US
> citizenship, you are seen purely as a US citizen.
>
> From the american point of view you have recinded
> you previous citizenship. <<
>
> that varies, actually, depending on the other
> country involved and its relations with the US.
> for example it used to be that the US recognized
> dual citizenship for Poles who acquired US
> citizenship,
> but if US citizens acquired Polish citizenship,
> their US citizenship was rescinded. nowadays both
> kinds of duality are honoured by both countries.
>
> sorry for the digression!

Up until approximately 1994 the U.S. did not recognise DUAL citizenship, or at least it did not with respect to the "other" citizenship being British. Around 1994 that changed. They didn't exactly publicize the fact that it had changed, you had to kind of press the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service on the issue. But if you did, you would be told that the oath of allegiance that you were required to take at the swearing-in ceremony had been re-worded ... the wording was now "non-renunciatory". That was INS terminology for a simple answer to a simple question; namely "did the U.S. recognise dual citizenship" ?



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Re: Citizenship of The Stones?
Posted by: oldkr ()
Date: May 14, 2007 16:31

trying to get anything out of the INS is a full-time job! Al, I don't think anyone claimed keith had anything other than Uk citizenship...

OLDKR

Re: Citizenship of The Stones?
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: May 14, 2007 17:03

oldkr Wrote:
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> trying to get anything out of the INS is a
> full-time job! Al, I don't think anyone claimed
> keith had anything other than Uk citizenship...
>
> OLDKR

Well I always thought he had a US Passport as well!

Out of curiosity oldkr, are you in the States on a Visa, or anything more permenant?

Re: Citizenship of The Stones?
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: May 14, 2007 17:08

>> but in the eyes of the US government when you pledge to the flag you are a US citizen only, in their eyes. <<

well yes - but at the same time the other country treats you as *only* their citizen as well.
i think we're talking about the same thing - it's not like a 50/50 deal, it's 2 x 100%.

and thanks for that history, Paul.
it was around 1990 that it became "non-renunciatory" for Americans acquiring Polish citizenship;
for Poles acquiring US citizenship it had already been non-renunciatory for decades.
just in case anyone ever wants to know. :E have some popcorn

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