I personally enjoy Bill a lot more then Daryl. I saw a concert of the rhythm kings, that was amazing too. Check out Steel Wheels, the only thing that made that album worth listening are those awesome bass lines!!

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> bassplayer had it so right and succint early
> on...rock should "roll"
> ya know? at least rock and roll should roll...
> the train, cars, planes...movement, the mystery
> train of the music itself...
> inherent in berrys' and in so many blues stories
> and lyrix...and rock
> traditionally...movement...chugga chugga
> ...cadillac crusin' at 95...the trainnnn left the
> stationnnnn....playing to the rhythm that the
> driver made...
> bye bye bye bye bye...rifffffffff....bill is
> moving mon...i mean there is a lot of movement and
> emphases that really rolls it...as well as telling
> the story with charlie. even the famous studio
> stuff that keith or someone played bass on, bill
> has replicated, 'gotten' it..and THENSOME...on
> every tour since forever...and made those his own,
> as we can hear going back to ya-ya's version of
> sympathy etc...
>
> was thinking 'bout what a great debut g&r had with
> appetite and how they went to shit in a handbasket
> (for me) once adler was, ahem, drummed out...
> matt sorum came in...solid as a
> rock...powerful...square...succint...sucky.
> that's just a comparion obviously...drums ain't
> bass..g&r at their best, very very powerful...but
> never approaching the masters really...just an
> example.
> chugga chugga rock's got to roll
> gotta get that to micksbrain and see if thats a
> good title for his next smash.
> the bill song.
> chugga chugga rock's got to roll
> he plays like a saint and looks like a troll
> well, alright...
> that's all i got right now...

Maybe it's me, but I don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Mathijs

Mathijs Wrote:
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> Maybe it's me, but I don't have a clue what you're
> talking about.
>
> Mathijs


Haven't you read James Joyce?

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2006-12-07 07:09 by Beelyboy.

I understand you, Billy.
And so does Bill Wyman, he's amazed by your posts at IORR, they make him lit another fag.

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Mathijs Wrote:
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> Any way. I have stated this since the Voodoo
> Lounge tour, and have been attacked by it ever
> since: the Rolling Stones ceased to exist in 1993,
> and they should have quit the moment Wyman left.
> In te studio they still cut some great tracks,
> mainly with hired bassists who sound a lot like
> Wyman, but live on stage the swing and drive is
> totally gone. Every musician knows: your as good
> as yor rythm section.

I really don't agree. And you know as well as I do that in the Stones it isn't just what you play on stage, it's also if you're tolereable on tour. I agree that the Bill/Charlie combo was VERY unique, and Daryll can never be a part of that, but that doesn't mean that the band should stop (Bill was the biggest pussy in the world for leaving btw). The Rolling Stones did NOT seize to exist in 1993. But they learned the truth about Bill: The man couldn't stand the pressure of being in a band this successfull, and then we have to hear him joining the frickin' "They Should Stop" choir, even though he says that he'd like to play with them again. I hope they keep turning his request down. (And please remember that I really like Bill, even though it doesn't look like it here. I really like him and, from what I've read, he's a lovable guy).


> We all know the stand-out moments of Wyman -78 and
> 81 tour, but listen with "bass-ears" to Brussels
> Affair. You probably heard a million times,but now
> listen only to the bass. It really struck me that
> the driving force behind Brown Sugar and Tumbling
> dice are that thumping, fatt bass of Wyman. He
> never stands still (on the neck that is), he never
> plays the same note twice, but it always sounds
> relaxed and laid back. It's always funky and
> driving. He doesn't interlock with Watts, but he
> completely locks with Keith. Agin Tumbling Dice
> from Brussels: you can take out keith's rythm
> guitar and you would hardly miss it all all -Bill
> covers all basses. He really is a bassist from the
> skiffle period, and you can hear he listened a lot
> to Donald Dunn. His style is very hard to copy,
> since it is bassically formed because of his small
> hands. If you try his style on a long scale bass
> you know he just plays too fast.
>
> Darryl Jones is technically a much more advanced
> player, but I bet he was give orders by Jagger:
> don't do anything funny, just cover Keith, and
> make sure we make it through the song". Darryl has
> become, together with Leavell, the leaders of the
> band. He makes sure the song continues after Wood
> or Richards @#$%& up again. I just really don't
> like his style and sound. All he does is thumping
> out querter notes. He doesn't swing, he doesn't
> dance around like Bill did.

To me it just goes like: YGMR from NS. The fills he makes in that one makes him worth every cent. The Stones have never ever swung better than with Darryll, and that's what I like about him. On th other hand I also miss the Charlie/Bill rythm section, which was the best ever because of that very special thing they had going on.

But I bet it pains you so very much that they didn't quit in 1993, so you could have kept your dream of "how it should be" Mathijs. That's one cool thing about the Stones: You can't make them quit no matter what you say. They just keep living.

JumpingKentFlash

In anyway Darryl is one of the best bass player you can get for money in these days. And I respect him and his playing very much - e.g. his work in '85 with Sting was excellent!
But the sadly truth is that I'm still missing Bill's wonderful 'Ballroom bass' playing....those swinging bass lines....really they're sadly missed.

In my opinion we had just two briliant bass players from the 60's. One of them is Bill, the second one was J. Entwhistle which has passed away.

Keep on rollin'
Gangster

This has really gotten interesting, but let me state emphatically that I enjoy Darryl's playing style very much -- this isn't a "bash Darryl" thread, OK?

However, I'm trying to recall a single instance in which Bill ever played a straight, say, "thump on A" bassline, a la AC/DC.

As an example, try to imagine how YGMR would've turned out with Bill playing on it.

I agree, Daryl swings on You Got Me Rocking, but that song is basically lame.

I think bassplayer meant that You Got Me Rocking would be much much better with mister Wyman.