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Re: OT: Italien WM 2006 titel in danger
Posted by: stonefan (IP Logged)
Date: July 12, 2006 13:49
this lout has an incredible nerve when he says that he does not know what the word terrorist means !
in a way, he betrays himself by his insolence !
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Re: OT: Italien WM 2006 titel in danger
Posted by: LolA (IP Logged)
Date: July 12, 2006 18:48
"As Blatter, the head of the FIFA, loves Zidane and hates Italy, hence he didn't take part to the final cerimony, "
Maybe Blatter didn't fancy having his picture taken with such a high concentration of guys on trial for corruption affairs...
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Re: OT: Italien WM 2006 titel in danger
Posted by: LolA (IP Logged)
Date: July 12, 2006 18:42
I think it is not about giving the cup to one country or another, it's about racism. Racism is just not acceptable. Not in the street, not at school, not on a football pitch. By not investigating this, you're sending the message to the whole world that it's ok to be racist, that racist insults are just normal as they are so commonly used, and that it's fine to use them to try and win a sport game...It is just not acceptable.
I am amazed by the complacency of so many here regarding racism.
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Re: OT: Italien WM 2006 titel in danger
Posted by: LolA (IP Logged)
Date: July 12, 2006 19:01
> Italians get called maccaroni all the time in
> France and we don't make pleas to the UN for this.
Being called "Maccaroni" is like tHe French being called "cheese eaters" and so on. It's a harmless joke about cultural references.
Racism is a completely different matter, and cannot be treated so lightly...
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Re: OT: Italien WM 2006 titel in danger
Posted by: LolA (IP Logged)
Date: July 12, 2006 19:31
Ok, my mistake dunhill, i didn't check it out.
I think Stonefan has summed it up pretty well. It's 2 completely different spirits. Italians just care about winning, no matter how, with what dirty tricks or whatever. It doesn't matter to them to praise a guy who publicly declares to be so ignorant that he doesn't know what the word "terrorist" means.
On the other hand, French players are human beings before being football players. There are things that matter more to them than winning a world cup, no matter how bad they want to win it, they've got values and integrity.
Andy JS: the fact that racist insults are being used all the time doesn't make them any more acceptable. Little girls and boys are being raped by pedophiles all the time, so do we have to just accept it as well?
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Re: OT: Italien WM 2006 titel in danger
Posted by: stonefan (IP Logged)
Date: July 12, 2006 19:39
and LoIA has perfectly explained the differences between both spirits.
I just want to tell you that the article 55 of the FIFA rules is very clear :
if one or many players of a team are convinced of racist insults, then, they can lose the title they won..
it's not my obsession, it's written as a rule which must apply to everyone !
I hope you care for the rules dunhill and maumau ??!!
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Re: OT: Italien WM 2006 titel in danger
Posted by: NickB (IP Logged)
Date: July 12, 2006 20:09
Sorry folks
but if the Italian said racist stuf he shouldn't have done so and should be reprimanded accordingly.....this would send out a message to fans and players alike, ban him for life.
Who cares about 22 overpaid morons on a pitch kicking a bag of wind about? And that's an insult to morons!!! For petes sake people get a grip it's only a game. It's not like the world will end or for that matter it's not like the whole tour has been cancelled.
NickB
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Re: OT: Italien WM 2006 titel in danger
Posted by: stonefan (IP Logged)
Date: July 12, 2006 20:27
for the moment, one brazilian and one english have read the same thing
the italian lout said to zidane "terrorist son of whore", something subtle like that