Is anyone into who influenced the Stones? Or even occasionally play their music. Big Bill Broonzy, Jimmy Reed, Elmore James, Sonny Boy Williamson, Julian Cannonball Adderley, Muddy, Chuck and Alexis?
Yes I love that music, Elmore James gets a lot of spins at my house. But by far my favourite is Howlin Wolf, greatest rock n roll ever made in my opinion.
I also love who was influenced BY the Stones, Johnny Thunders is blasting out this very moment here in my room. Check out Johhny Thunders and Patti Palladin "Copy Cats" a classic covers album.
This post has only two responders. Is that because a lot of IORR members are too young to remember these old muscians? If so try and give them a listen. It's part of the history of the Stones. I listen to all of them sometimes. Big Bill Broonzy recordings sound like they were made a 1,000 years ago. Brian used to crash out at Alexis' house only to find some of his heroes like Big Bill around him. Does that help you younger dudes put it all into perspective. Things were different then. Two Polish immigrant brothers did a lot for music and us Stones fans. They set up the Chicago based Chess studios.
Sorry humanriff, how could I ever forger Howlin' Woolf.
I just love all that old blues stuff Jagger 50 , and I thank The Rolling Stones for opening my ears to it. If it wasn't for them most of that stuff probably wouldn't have re surfaced and alot of those great artists like Muddy, Howlin, Sonny boy, John Lee,etc etc wouldn't have enjoyed the popularity that they eventually received. In my humble opinion The Rolling Stones were one of only a few British blues bands that did the blues justice . Alot of the white bands of then and now who call[ed] themselves blues bands are not. The Rolling Stones are not just a blues band though,they were influenced by almost all types of music.......Country,Rocknroll,Reggae,Gospel, Jazz,etc, and still are being influenced by newer styles of music.........Punk,New Wave, rap....etc etc. They have always kept their ears open for new ideas..... Hey, and while they are makin all this wonderful music they are doing it with a sense of humour and playing it with all their heart and soul...and with taste!...They are unique ....there will never be another band like The Rolling Stones ........Long Live The Rolling Stones!
jagger50 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is anyone into who influenced the Stones? Or even > occasionally play their music.
of course. Isnt everyone? Or have I got the wrong band?
Gazza Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > jagger50 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Is anyone into who influenced the Stones? Or > even > > occasionally play their music. > > > of course. Isnt everyone? Or have I got the wrong > band? >
You'd be surprised Gazza what people don't know about the Stones roots.
how deep rooted, with the influences do you want to go?
You've focused on the great U.S Blue singers/performers of the early part of the 20th Century, but please don't overlook the likes of Lonnie Donegan (King of Skiffle)- i was reminded of this man's legacy and influence, at the Carlo Little Memorial concert, last night.
Brian was quoted as saying "I discovered Elmore James, and the earth seemed to shudder on it's axis." Brian's third child was called Julian Mark after Julian Cannonball Adderley, Brian's favourite muscian.
Just a couple of testaments to that new blues sound comming over from America.
I"ve always tried to track down the influences that aren't so obvious. Everyone know about Berry, Little Richard, Muddy etc... but who influenced them on High and Dry or Factory Girl? What was Keith listening to when he came up with You Got the Silver? Where did the get The Moon is Up?
We had a band in high school and of course, we wanted to be the Stones but once we really got in to their music, we started to listen to the blues, country, bluegrass, old rock and roll, folk, soul, Motown....
I listen to the blues a lot & my fave is the pre-war 'country' blues period altho the post war Chicago sound is a close second. I'm also a Leadbelly 12-string guitar freak, got a 27cd compilation of his just before Xmas. I discovered the blues from 2 directions.
One was thru Dylan, via Woody Guthrie & the musicians he hung out with such as Sonny Terry which got me interested in where he came from, which led me to the blues of the 20's & 30's.
The second route was via the Stones, Pretty Things & Animals, which led into the 50's Chicago scene, & then Robert Johnson via Muddy & Elmore, which then met up with the thread via Dylan.
In turns of tasty fingerpicking Blind Blake is it for me.
I have this little theory that Jagger's shouting, howling and growling on the STP '72 tour was influenced by Camerón de la Isla, the legendary flamenco singer who died in the early '90s and who had his breakthrough around 1970. Jaggers singing is so radically different in 72, with a high, shrill expressiveness that wasn't there in 69 (just compare the GS's). Can't remember having seen his name mentioned in Stones books or interviews but I have read an interview with the makers of a doc about Cameron who said they'd tried in vain to get Jagger to work with them, as an admirer and fan. One of Camérons nicknames btw was the Mick Jagger van Cádiz.
---------------------------- "Music is the frozen tapioca in the ice chest of history."
a friend of mine who is a musician, historian and has a historical r&b radio show insists that mick picked up a lot his characterisic stylings from Don Covay... i've only had a tiny bit of exposure to Covay but immediately could see his point.
Freddy King and Albert King are two of the greatest blues guitarists, and MT has said in interviews they are his main influences. Dylan influenced not just Jagger but Keith and Woody as well. Sometimes I think Ian Stewart sounded like Lux Lewis, which isnt a bad thing.
Adrian-L Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > how deep rooted, with the influences do you want > to go? > > You've focused on the great U.S Blue > singers/performers of the early part of the 20th > Century, but please don't overlook the likes of > Lonnie Donegan (King of Skiffle)- > i was reminded of this man's legacy and > influence, at the Carlo Little Memorial concert, > last night.
As far back as possible.
Of course Lonnie Donegan was in the late 1950's a musical passport to rebellion. And many skiffle groups were started in UK because you didn't need so much cash to.
I have read that possibly the blues roots came from the Missisippii Delta. Can you imagine in the very begining two cats with a long baton of wood with two nails holding proud a cat gut line. And getting a sound out of it. I can almost hear it now.
Before I forget skiffle was the very begining of the Beatles (Quarrymen).
I'll admit that I "backdoored" into the blooze by way of bands like the Stones and Animals. But, the blooze are easily my favorite genre of music. Not a day goes by when I'm not listening to blooze (jazz, too, for that matter). Just downloaded a new find - a rare Muddy Waters' band torrent from 1996 at the famed Big John's in Chicago. Horrible recording - wonderful to listen to! I just eat this stuff up.