I´m proud to be a setlist moaner, someone has to do it:

12 hits out 0f 20

Jumping Jack Flash
It's Only Rock'n Roll
Let's Spend The Night Together
Tumbling Dice
Happy (Keith)
Miss You (to B-stage)
Honky Tonk Women (to main stage)
Sympathy For The Devil
Start Me Up
Brown Sugar
You Can't Always Get What You Want (encore)
Satisfaction (encore)


just 3 new songs (out of 18 new ones)!

Oh No Not You Again
Rain Fall Down
This Place Is Empty (Keith)


4 songs played regularly, with gaps
Best part of the show, right (if you are a diehard f a n)?

All Down The Line
Midnight Rambler
Respectable
Get Off Of My Cloud

only one gem

As Tears Go By (played with drums?)

All in all a setlist to moan. Boston has been played 2 times in a bigger
venue 4 months ago.

I wasn´t there, right. But I must say that I´m not even interested in
hearing boots of that/those show(s), I know it sounds like 1997/1998/1999/
2002/2003.
Same arrangements? Sure...

Tumbling Dice with Bernard and Lisa doing WhooWhoos at the beginning, right?

Night Together with piano intro? B+L doing the "Dada´s", right? No rough guitars, right?

Respectable with "1234"-Chucky intro, right?? On how many more songs did he do it?

Sympathy with synthi intro, right? Same since 1989 (since 17 years!)

Rambler? The Stones were just the Stones, right? Best song of the
evening, right?


Distorted guitars? On what songs? Rough Justice? Oh No,
Not Played Again! I see. I have the bad feeling they are losing the
edges again before coming to Europe. And here they will play even safer,
because of really high ticket prices. "You can´t annoy those concert
goers by an experimental setlist. They payed much and want to have ALL
those hits".

It would be great to hear that it wasn´t like this, but it was, right?

Sorry to bother you, but now it´s out of my head.









Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-01-14 16:32 by TooTough.

Easy answer dude...DON'T GO!

Go play in the micro oven...

too tough what do you want to hear? probably songs they obviously wouldn't play. they have made vast improvements to the setlist. go see brittney then.

from Timeisonourside.com

never played, sniff:


Stoned
Now I've Got a Witness
Good Times Bad Times
2120 South Michigan Avenue
Grown Up Wrong
Surprise, Surprise
What a Shame
You Can't Catch Me
Gotta Get Away
Look What You've Done
The Singer Not the Song
Blue Turns to Grey
Flight 505
High and Dry
Out of Time
It's Not Easy
I Am Waiting
Take It or Leave It
Think
What to Do
Sad Day
Long, Long While
Who's Driving Your Plane
My Obsession
Back Street Girl
Cool, Calm and Collected
All Sold Out
Please Go Home
Who's Been Sleeping Here?
Complicated
Miss Amanda Jones
Something Happened to
Me Yesterday
My Girl
Ride on, Baby
Sittin on a Fence
Sing This All Together
Citadel
In Another Land
2000 Man
Sing This All Together
(See What Happens)
Gomper
The Lantern
On with the Show
We Love You
Dandelion
Dear Doctor
Jigsaw Puzzle
Child of the Moon
Country Honk
Shake Your Hips
Casino Boogie
Turd on the Run
Just Wanna See His Face
Let It Loose
Soul Survivor
Coming Down Again
Hide Your Love
Winter
Can Your Hear the Music?
Till the Next Goodbye
Time Waits for No One
If You Really Want to
Be My Friend
Short and Curlies
Through the Lonely Nights
If You Let Me
Family
Memo from Turner
Downtown Suzie
I Don't Know Why
Jiving Sister Fanny
I'm Going Down
Everything Is Turning to Gold
Summer Romance
Send It to Me
Indian Girl
Where the Boys Go
Down in the Hole
Emotional Rescue
Slave
Heaven
No Use in Crying
She Was Hot
Tie You Up (The Pain of Love)
Feel on Baby
Too Much Blood
Pretty Beat Up
Too Tough
All the Way Down
It Must Be Hell
Think I'm Going Mad
Fight
Hold Back
Too Rude
Winning Ugly
Back to Zero
Dirty Work
Had It with You
Sleep Tonight
Hold On to Your Hat
Hearts for Sale
Continental Drift
Break the Spell
Fancyman Blues
Cook Cook Blues
Wish I'd Never Met You
Highwire
Sex Drive
New Faces
Sweethearts Together
Suck on the Jugular
Blinded By Rainbows
Baby Break It Down
Mean Disposition
The Storm
So Young
I'm Gonna Drive
Gunface
Always Suffering
Too Tight
Any Way You Look at It
Keys to Your Love
Stealing My Heart
Losing My Touch
Let Me Down Slow
Streets Of Love
She Saw Me Coming
Biggest Mistake
Dangerous Beauty
Laugh, I Nearly Died
Sweet Neo Con
Look What The Cat Dragged In
Driving Too Fast
Hurricane
Under the Radar
Don't Wanna Go Home


Apart of those they played only once or twice in 40 years.
What a @#$%& pity.

J.J.Flash Wrote:
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> too tough what do you want to hear? probably songs
> they obviously wouldn't play. they have made vast
> improvements to the setlist. go see brittney then.



Her name must be Britney...


Why should I see/hear her, I´m a Stones fan.

TooTough Wrote:
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> > from Timeisonourside.com
>
> never played, sniff:
>
>
> Stoned
> Now I've Got a Witness
> Good Times Bad Times
> 2120 South Michigan Avenue
> Grown Up Wrong
> Surprise, Surprise
> What a Shame
> You Can't Catch Me
> Gotta Get Away
> Look What You've Done
> The Singer Not the Song
> Blue Turns to Grey
> Flight 505
> High and Dry
> Out of Time
> It's Not Easy
> I Am Waiting
> Take It or Leave It
> Think
> What to Do
> Sad Day
> Long, Long While
> Who's Driving Your Plane
> My Obsession
> Back Street Girl
> Cool, Calm and Collected
> All Sold Out
> Please Go Home
> Who's Been Sleeping Here?
> Complicated
> Miss Amanda Jones
> Something Happened to
> Me Yesterday
> My Girl
> Ride on, Baby
> Sittin on a Fence
> Sing This All Together
> Citadel
> In Another Land
> 2000 Man
> Sing This All Together
> (See What Happens)
> Gomper
> The Lantern
> On with the Show
> We Love You
> Dandelion
> Dear Doctor
> Jigsaw Puzzle
> Child of the Moon
> Country Honk
> Shake Your Hips
> Casino Boogie
> Turd on the Run
> Just Wanna See His Face
> Let It Loose
> Soul Survivor
> Coming Down Again
> Hide Your Love
> Winter
> Can Your Hear the Music?
> Till the Next Goodbye
> Time Waits for No One
> If You Really Want to
> Be My Friend
> Short and Curlies
> Through the Lonely Nights
> If You Let Me
> Family
> Memo from Turner
> Downtown Suzie
> I Don't Know Why
> Jiving Sister Fanny
> I'm Going Down
> Everything Is Turning to Gold
> Summer Romance
> Send It to Me
> Indian Girl
> Where the Boys Go
> Down in the Hole
> Emotional Rescue
> Slave
> Heaven
> No Use in Crying
> She Was Hot
> Tie You Up (The Pain of Love)
> Feel on Baby
> Too Much Blood
> Pretty Beat Up
> Too Tough
> All the Way Down
> It Must Be Hell
> Think I'm Going Mad
> Fight
> Hold Back
> Too Rude
> Winning Ugly
> Back to Zero
> Dirty Work
> Had It with You
> Sleep Tonight
> Hold On to Your Hat
> Hearts for Sale
> Continental Drift
> Break the Spell
> Fancyman Blues
> Cook Cook Blues
> Wish I'd Never Met You
> Highwire
> Sex Drive
> New Faces
> Sweethearts Together
> Suck on the Jugular
> Blinded By Rainbows
> Baby Break It Down
> Mean Disposition
> The Storm
> So Young
> I'm Gonna Drive
> Gunface
> Always Suffering
> Too Tight
> Any Way You Look at It
> Keys to Your Love
> Stealing My Heart
> Losing My Touch
> Let Me Down Slow
> Streets Of Love
> She Saw Me Coming
> Biggest Mistake
> Dangerous Beauty
> Laugh, I Nearly Died
> Sweet Neo Con
> Look What The Cat Dragged In
> Driving Too Fast
> Hurricane
> Under the Radar
> Don't Wanna Go Home
>
>
> Apart of those they played only once or twice in
> 40 years.
> What a @#$%& pity.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> --------
> Barcelona, Paris, München, Berlin, Köln!!
>

I don't remember that they play too tough,let me down slow,driving to fast..

sater, read properly from the top: all those songs NEVER have been played!

I could sign a petition for 2120 South Michigan Avenue though.

I agree so some extent TT they could drop some more warhorses...
But we´re sure headed on the right course....

Well, two new songs in Boston and we have had almost 50 songs in this tour so far.....

Why all this complaints.....

We will probably have 1 or 2 new songs on sunday.....

More than most other bands do......

Sure by the end of this tour they hav reached over 60 songs.....

Sorry..yeah that's @#$%& pity but what we can do??i hope that they won't play YCAGWYW in Europe and replace it by ATGB...But look they play LSTNT i love that song....the set list will change for europe ..i hope..

sater Wrote:
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the set list will change for
> europe ..i hope..

Yes, sater, that´s what this world needs...hope!

Crucial mistake I think people make
is comparing this tour with Lix.

TooTough Wrote:
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> > from Timeisonourside.com
>
> never played, sniff:
>
>
> Stoned
> Now I've Got a Witness
> Good Times Bad Times
> 2120 South Michigan Avenue
> Grown Up Wrong
> Surprise, Surprise
> What a Shame
> You Can't Catch Me
> Gotta Get Away
> Look What You've Done
> The Singer Not the Song
> Blue Turns to Grey
> Flight 505
> High and Dry
> Out of Time
> It's Not Easy
> I Am Waiting
> Take It or Leave It
> Think
> What to Do
> Sad Day
> Long, Long While
> Who's Driving Your Plane
> My Obsession
> Back Street Girl
> Cool, Calm and Collected
> All Sold Out
> Please Go Home
> Who's Been Sleeping Here?
> Complicated
> Miss Amanda Jones
> Something Happened to
> Me Yesterday
> My Girl
> Ride on, Baby
> Sittin on a Fence
> Sing This All Together
> Citadel
> In Another Land
> 2000 Man
> Sing This All Together
> (See What Happens)
> Gomper
> The Lantern
> On with the Show
> We Love You
> Dandelion
> Dear Doctor
> Jigsaw Puzzle
> Child of the Moon
> Country Honk
> Shake Your Hips
> Casino Boogie
> Turd on the Run
> Just Wanna See His Face
> Let It Loose
> Soul Survivor
> Coming Down Again
> Hide Your Love
> Winter
> Can Your Hear the Music?
> Till the Next Goodbye
> Time Waits for No One
> If You Really Want to
> Be My Friend
> Short and Curlies
> Through the Lonely Nights
> If You Let Me
> Family
> Memo from Turner
> Downtown Suzie
> I Don't Know Why
> Jiving Sister Fanny
> I'm Going Down
> Everything Is Turning to Gold
> Summer Romance
> Send It to Me
> Indian Girl
> Where the Boys Go
> Down in the Hole
> Emotional Rescue
> Slave
> Heaven
> No Use in Crying
> She Was Hot
> Tie You Up (The Pain of Love)
> Feel on Baby
> Too Much Blood
> Pretty Beat Up
> Too Tough
> All the Way Down
> It Must Be Hell
> Think I'm Going Mad
> Fight
> Hold Back
> Too Rude
> Winning Ugly
> Back to Zero
> Dirty Work
> Had It with You
> Sleep Tonight
> Hold On to Your Hat
> Hearts for Sale
> Continental Drift
> Break the Spell
> Fancyman Blues
> Cook Cook Blues
> Wish I'd Never Met You
> Highwire
> Sex Drive
> New Faces
> Sweethearts Together
> Suck on the Jugular
> Blinded By Rainbows
> Baby Break It Down
> Mean Disposition
> The Storm
> So Young
> I'm Gonna Drive
> Gunface
> Always Suffering
> Too Tight
> Any Way You Look at It
> Keys to Your Love
> Stealing My Heart
> Losing My Touch
> Let Me Down Slow
> Streets Of Love
> She Saw Me Coming
> Biggest Mistake
> Dangerous Beauty
> Laugh, I Nearly Died
> Sweet Neo Con
> Look What The Cat Dragged In
> Driving Too Fast
> Hurricane
> Under the Radar
> Don't Wanna Go Home
>
>
> Apart of those they played only once or twice in
> 40 years.
> What a @#$%& pity.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> --------
> Barcelona, Paris, München, Berlin, Köln!!
>

KEEP DREAMING! come on. you know them by now. no chance to hear 99.9 % of these.

J.J.Flash Wrote:
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>> come on. you know them by now. no
> chance to hear 99.9 % of these.

yes, what a @#$%& pity.

Most of the fans who go to the shows love to hear songs they know. They don't own 200 Stones records. They might only own a few greatest hits records. They want to hear the big hits. If the Stones played a long list of rare songs only it would have been the worst show ever. A lot of people in the crowd would go for beers and there would be a few hundred superfans sitting there listening without any crowd noise. It would be a bad show indeed.

Bjornulf

too tough's setlist


out of time
gotta get away
i am waiting
child of the moon
we love you
soul survivor
winter
let it loose
under the radar
break the spell
in another land(keith sings)
sleep tonight
dirty work(to b stage)
take it or leave it(b)
gomper(b)
too tough(b)
too much blood
slave
jigsaw puzzle
highwire
jiving sister fanny

Please, get off TT´s cloud, ok

bv Wrote:
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> Most of the fans who go to the shows love to hear
> songs they know. They don't own 200 Stones
> records. They might only own a few greatest hits
> records. They want to hear the big hits. If the
> Stones played a long list of rare songs only it
> would have been the worst show ever. A lot of
> people in the crowd would go for beers and there
> would be a few hundred superfans sitting there
> listening without any crowd noise. It would be a
> bad show indeed.
>
> Bjornulf


Exactly........thanks for the sanity. If the Stones start playing Indian Girl in Atlanta....I'll go for a bathroom break.

i'm not bustin his balls. that setlist would work for me!

J.J.Flash Wrote:
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> too tough's setlist
>
>
> out of time
> gotta get away
> i am waiting
> child of the moon
> we love you
> soul survivor
> winter
> let it loose
> under the radar
> break the spell
> in another land(keith sings)
> sleep tonight
> dirty work(to b stage)
> take it or leave it(b)
> gomper(b)
> too tough(b)
> too much blood
> slave
> jigsaw puzzle
> highwire
> jiving sister fanny
>

Wow, great setlist! You can´t annoy me with Gomper.
I could easily live with that. The setlist is even worth
€ 200.

obviously that isn't going to happen, they will change up the setlist, but arn't going to drop the warhorses entirly, but they will add some new ones. I'm confident Gimmie Shelter will go into the 9 slot Sunday instead of Midnight Rambler, because they played it during soundcheck last night, and lisa didnt sing much either last night. they will also go with 21 songs Sunday and have different songs in the encore. you cant ask for an entire overhall of the set list, but Sway and Dead Flowers should get in instead of Start Me Up or Tumblin' Dice.

bv Wrote:
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If the
> Stones played a long list of rare songs only it
> would have been the worst show ever. A lot of
> people in the crowd would go for beers and there
> would be a few hundred superfans sitting there
> listening without any crowd noise. It would be a
> bad show indeed.
>
> Bjornulf


In 1998 maybe 10.000 fans out of 90.000 knew Out Of Control
or Saint Of Me in Hamburg or Hannover. And those were
the highlights, crowd reaction was really good, singalong
on saint and a big roar after OOC ended. That proves that
you can´t argue like above. So it´s what you offer to the crowd.
Believe me, 80% of that "never played"-list could convince
a "greatest hits" crowd. If it´s a good song (and their songs
are 95% good) you can convince anyone. Just have the balls to play it.

Agreed...TT is so damned right.....I am sorry to say so.

The Stones are religion to me....but what they are delivering this tour @#$%& me up so much...
indeed dissapointment is so deep that this is the first time EVER I am not interested in boots of the tour....why should I get them ?
I have the same songs in the same quality from LICKS tour.
...
and I even stopped to try to convince other people to go to a Stones show.
When they say: " Ah, come on..they are just repeating them selfes in a greatest hits show"...I have to agree.

It is not about a matter of taste...I always was against the so called setlistmoaners, cause I said the Stones have so many songs to choose from that it is impossible to please evryone.

But by serving us such a poor show setlistwise, we are forced to analyse the choose of songs.

This is not a living band anymore...this is nostalgica.

20 songs.....12 warehorses which they play since 20 years...
3-4 NEW songs...RIDICILOUS !!!...

Some of the shows are without any blues part at all( by not playing BOMH,MR,)

The BEST song ( Rambler) just playd irregularly....

What they say is not what they do....any more.
They say: we play clubs as well....they don`t
They say: we have to mix the setlist to keep us fresh...they don`t.
They say: we have to play many new songs...otherwise it would not make any sense to be there....they almost ignore the new album.
They say: the new songs are all livecompatible....
How many new songs we have ? 18
How many new songs are performed ? 3 - 4

To make it clear:
I am not talking about the musical perfomance
I am not talking about they quality of the show
I am not talking about the soundquality


All this things seem to be okey....but the songs they choose are far from good.
And I never thought to say so...but I think without Chuck the setlist would be even worse...he seems to be the only one who forces Jagger to change one or 2 songs or to try something rare or whatever.

Now, some of you may say...it is about HOW they play and not about WHAT they play.
I did agree till this tour...I may be thrilled by a killer 2005 version of JJF or BS or SMU....but I dont want to hear them anymore show after show.

Going on tour just 2 years after the last big tour and playing the same songs, though they have a new album behind them, is unacceptable to me.

That said I am still looking forward seing the Stones this summer, cause I love them more than anything else.....but I hate their setlist these days..

Cu
cheers
Salar


My BIGGER BANGS so far: Barcelona,Frankfurt,Cologne,Paris ?

how about stray cat blues and laugh i nearly died instead of rain fall down and it's only rock and roll, and keith sings little t and a instead of happy sunday i think that would be a nice addition

also they need to go to about 23 songs, including an encore or two. when not playing midnight rambler

Good moaning, Salar & Too Tough.
it's sad but true and you nailed it

would you like some whine with your moan???

did you wake up grumpy?

No, I let him sleep

This is an endless and useless discussion made by selfish fans who can't understand how normal people look at the Stones. Very very rarely the Stones do not play one of their greatest hits. I mean stuff like Tumbling Dice, Jumping Jack Flash, Brown Sugar, Satisfaction and so on. Then, if you use your eyes and ears at a show, and then look at it reading set lists on the computer, you actually hear people walking out of the show saying: "Why didn't they do...?". Sure sait of Me and Oh No Not You Again and rain Fall Down work fine. They are new songs. Like Saint Of Me and Out Of Conrol. But it would be an offense to the regular fan not to play their favorites. Like going to the Louvre and not seing Mona Lisa. And to Rome and finding out they had taken down Colloseum.

Bjornulf