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They have now added travel packages.

[www.jampack.com]

Those really don't look horrible compared to the 'premium' tickets which cost a lot more and didn't include a room but appears to have all the same amenities unless I'm comparing these incorrectly:

Rolling Stones Thunder Ridge Premium Tickets

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They have now added travel packages.

[www.jampack.com]

Those really don't look horrible compared to the 'premium' tickets which cost a lot more and didn't include a room but appears to have all the same amenities unless I'm comparing these incorrectly:

Rolling Stones Thunder Ridge Premium Tickets

Well I take that back, digging into the details all of those prices assume maximum room occupancy, so soon as you plug in less than that many people the price could quadruple, though it appears they all assume a 3 night stay.

I guess it's all relative, anyone wanting to kick back and enjoy nature, maybe do a little fishing, it's a beautiful area, it might be worth it.

Only a 10 day weather forecast thru Saturday 7/20 but a lot of scattered thunderstorms in the coming days.

Now if anyone is landing in Springfield Friday night or departing Monday afternoon and wants to split rideshare lemme know. Also any ideas of any shuttles or ways into venue as well.

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Only a 10 day weather forecast thru Saturday 7/20 but a lot of scattered thunderstorms in the coming days.

And heat.

That's summertime in Missouri. It's also very unpredictable, I wouldn't put too much stock in the forecasts until you get a lot closer to the date.

Parking appears very limited, what is everyone doing?

Bought parking wen I bought my ticket.

In case anyone looking for transportation, I will be driving from Fayetteville Arkansas on the 20th and returning early the 22nd. Its a couple hour drive but the closest Delta connection.

How fishing led the Rolling Stones to perform in the Ozarks

[www.reuters.com]

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How fishing led the Rolling Stones to perform in the Ozarks

[www.reuters.com]

"Morris helped Leavell net 'an enormous fish.' 'He said "Johnny, this is the happiest day of my life... If I can ever do anything for you, you let me know," ' Morris said.

The businessman, 76, called in that favor years later. 'I said, "Could you get the Rolling Stones to come to Ridgedale, Missouri?" And he goes, Where? What? and ... how that came about is just through fate, through fishing and a friendship."

Yeah, right, that's why this concert got booked in the middle of nowhere. It's in return for the favor of one big fish that American guns and ammo magnate Johnny Morris once helped Chuck Leavell catch decades ago. It's got nothing to do with Morris writing a monstrous big check pulling off of that mountain of lucre.

Incisive reporting, there, Reuters



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How fishing led the Rolling Stones to perform in the Ozarks

[www.reuters.com]

"Morris helped Leavell net 'an enormous fish.' 'He said "Johnny, this is the happiest day of my life... If I can ever do anything for you, you let me know," ' Morris said.

The businessman, 76, called in that favor years later. 'I said, "Could you get the Rolling Stones to come to Ridgedale, Missouri?" And he goes, Where? What? and ... how that came about is just through fate, through fishing and a friendship."

Yeah, right, that's why this concert got booked in the middle of nowhere. It's in return for the favor of one big fish that American guns and ammo magnate Johnny Morris once helped Chuck Leavell catch decades ago. It's got nothing to do with Morris writing a monstrous big check pulling off of that mountain of lucre.

Incisive reporting, there, Reuters

No...really! Chuck has as much influence on tour dates as he does on the set list!

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How fishing led the Rolling Stones to perform in the Ozarks

[www.reuters.com]

"Morris helped Leavell net 'an enormous fish.' 'He said "Johnny, this is the happiest day of my life... If I can ever do anything for you, you let me know," ' Morris said.

The businessman, 76, called in that favor years later. 'I said, "Could you get the Rolling Stones to come to Ridgedale, Missouri?" And he goes, Where? What? and ... how that came about is just through fate, through fishing and a friendship."

Yeah, right, that's why this concert got booked in the middle of nowhere. It's in return for the favor of one big fish that American guns and ammo magnate Johnny Morris once helped Chuck Leavell catch decades ago. It's got nothing to do with Morris writing a monstrous big check pulling off of that mountain of lucre.

Incisive reporting, there, Reuters

No...really! Chuck has as much influence on tour dates as he does on the set list!

It's the lengths that Johnny Morris has always gone to to hide the fact that his is a firearms sales fortune, behind this front of hey, Bass Pro is about fishing, that makes the man unsavory in my eyes.

We'll never know, he keeps all of the data under lock and key, but I'd be shocked if Morris hasn't made more money the last three decades off of selling AR-15s, AR-15 accessories, and its .223 high velocity, utterly body-wracking ammunition that goes far beyond simple home defense needs, than he has off of any other set of items.

When you're the top dog gun merchant, stand up and own it. Stop hiding behind goddam fish.

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How fishing led the Rolling Stones to perform in the Ozarks

[www.reuters.com]

"Morris helped Leavell net 'an enormous fish.' 'He said "Johnny, this is the happiest day of my life... If I can ever do anything for you, you let me know," ' Morris said.

The businessman, 76, called in that favor years later. 'I said, "Could you get the Rolling Stones to come to Ridgedale, Missouri?" And he goes, Where? What? and ... how that came about is just through fate, through fishing and a friendship."

Yeah, right, that's why this concert got booked in the middle of nowhere. It's in return for the favor of one big fish that American guns and ammo magnate Johnny Morris once helped Chuck Leavell catch decades ago. It's got nothing to do with Morris writing a monstrous big check pulling off of that mountain of lucre.

Incisive reporting, there, Reuters

No...really! Chuck has as much influence on tour dates as he does on the set list!

It's the lengths that Johnny Morris has always gone to to hide the fact that his is a firearms sales fortune, behind this front of hey, Bass Pro is about fishing, that makes the man unsavory in my eyes.

We'll never know, he keeps all of the data under lock and key, but I'd be shocked if Morris hasn't made more money the last three decades off of selling AR-15s, AR-15 accessories, and its .223 high velocity, utterly body-wracking ammunition that goes far beyond simple home defense needs, than he has off of any other set of items.

When you're the top dog gun merchant, stand up and own it. Stop hiding behind goddam fish.

We sell'em missiles, we sell'em tanks, we give'em credit you can call up the bank!

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How fishing led the Rolling Stones to perform in the Ozarks

[www.reuters.com]

"Morris helped Leavell net 'an enormous fish.' 'He said "Johnny, this is the happiest day of my life... If I can ever do anything for you, you let me know," ' Morris said.

The businessman, 76, called in that favor years later. 'I said, "Could you get the Rolling Stones to come to Ridgedale, Missouri?" And he goes, Where? What? and ... how that came about is just through fate, through fishing and a friendship."

Yeah, right, that's why this concert got booked in the middle of nowhere. It's in return for the favor of one big fish that American guns and ammo magnate Johnny Morris once helped Chuck Leavell catch decades ago. It's got nothing to do with Morris writing a monstrous big check pulling off of that mountain of lucre.

Incisive reporting, there, Reuters

No...really! Chuck has as much influence on tour dates as he does on the set list!

It's the lengths that Johnny Morris has always gone to to hide the fact that his is a firearms sales fortune, behind this front of hey, Bass Pro is about fishing, that makes the man unsavory in my eyes.

We'll never know, he keeps all of the data under lock and key, but I'd be shocked if Morris hasn't made more money the last three decades off of selling AR-15s, AR-15 accessories, and its .223 high velocity, utterly body-wracking ammunition that goes far beyond simple home defense needs, than he has off of any other set of items.

When you're the top dog gun merchant, stand up and own it. Stop hiding behind goddam fish.

I'm not sure they've ever denied it, it's so much more, but their flagship store in nearby Springfield is a fascinating adventure, aquariums, a barber shop, a couple of restaurants, a huge pool with kayaks, and a nearby nature museum.

I'm not a big outdoorsman but had some free time so checked it out and was quite impressed

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...It's the lengths that Johnny Morris has always gone to to hide the fact that his is a firearms sales fortune, behind this front of hey, Bass Pro is about fishing, that makes the man unsavory in my eyes.

We'll never know, he keeps all of the data under lock and key, but I'd be shocked if Morris hasn't made more money the last three decades off of selling AR-15s, AR-15 accessories, and its .223 high velocity, utterly body-wracking ammunition that goes far beyond simple home defense needs, than he has off of any other set of items.

When you're the top dog gun merchant, stand up and own it. Stop hiding behind goddam fish.

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I'm not sure they've ever denied it...

I don't think it'd be possible to deny that Bass Pro/Cabela (since Walmart I believe got out of the business) is the leading retail seller, at least with a bricks and mortar presence, beyond just online, of guns and ammo in the most gun-happy major nation in the world.

Just as it's impossible to hide firearms sales from anyone who enters one of the stores, or visits their website. But most Americans don't do either. So to the outsider, you have no idea -- and for those people I'm sure Mr. Morris doesn't want it any other way.

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... it's so much more, but their flagship store in nearby Springfield is a fascinating adventure, aquariums, a barber shop, a couple of restaurants, a huge pool with kayaks, and a nearby nature museum.

I'm not a big outdoorsman but had some free time so checked it out and was quite impressed

Selling ammo, 880 different kinds of guns, and all their accessories (the ways you can dress your AR-15 up - excuse me, private militia guys, "customize it" - has become virtually endless) in 21st Century America is a ridiculously profitable enterprise. Other categories of outdoor sporting goods they sell simply do not have comparable profit margins, and I doubt very many sell in comparable volumes.

Again, I've owned long guns since I was 11. I joined Norfolk Police Dept at 19 and was a street cop at 20. (My father bought my snubnosed .38 off-duty gun for me because, although a working cop, I still wasn't old enough to buy it myself.)

In the almost half century since then the number of privately owned guns here has mushroomed to where it outnumbers the number of people.

Outside Bass Pro Central and Thunder Ridge probably nothing will tell you this, but you're seeing where just a smidge of one of the fortunes made off of all those guns went. A sumptuous flagship store. A "nature arena." And the fee that for one night only is paying the World's Greatest Rock n Roll Band.

Or maybe I'm wrong, Reuters is right, and Chuck's fish brought them there.

I wonder if someday one of our big winners in this industry here will decide to re-purpose his fortune in a fashion more like how Alfred Nobel did with his dynamite wealth.

But I'm not holding my breath.



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Incisive reporting, there, Reuters

Actually it's an 'old story' - [iorr.org] .

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...It's the lengths that Johnny Morris has always gone to to hide the fact that his is a firearms sales fortune, behind this front of hey, Bass Pro is about fishing, that makes the man unsavory in my eyes.

We'll never know, he keeps all of the data under lock and key, but I'd be shocked if Morris hasn't made more money the last three decades off of selling AR-15s, AR-15 accessories, and its .223 high velocity, utterly body-wracking ammunition that goes far beyond simple home defense needs, than he has off of any other set of items.

When you're the top dog gun merchant, stand up and own it. Stop hiding behind goddam fish.

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I'm not sure they've ever denied it...

I don't think it'd be possible to deny that Bass Pro/Cabela (since Walmart I believe got out of the business) is the leading retail seller, at least with a bricks and mortar presence, beyond just online, of guns and ammo in the most gun-happy major nation in the world.

Just as it's impossible to hide firearms sales from anyone who enters one of the stores, or visits their website. But most Americans don't do either. So to the outsider, you have no idea -- and for those people I'm sure Mr. Morris doesn't want it any other way.

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... it's so much more, but their flagship store in nearby Springfield is a fascinating adventure, aquariums, a barber shop, a couple of restaurants, a huge pool with kayaks, and a nearby nature museum.

I'm not a big outdoorsman but had some free time so checked it out and was quite impressed

Selling ammo, 880 different kinds of guns, and all their accessories (the ways you can dress your AR-15 up - excuse me, private militia guys, "customize it" - has become virtually endless) in 21st Century America is a ridiculously profitable enterprise. Other categories of outdoor sporting goods they sell simply do not have comparable profit margins, and I doubt very many sell in comparable volumes.

Again, I've owned long guns since I was 11. I joined Norfolk Police Dept at 19 and was a street cop at 20. (My father bought my snubnosed .38 off-duty gun for me because, although a working cop, I still wasn't old enough to buy it myself.)

In the almost half century since then the number of privately owned guns here has mushroomed to where it outnumbers the number of people.

Outside Bass Pro Central and Thunder Ridge probably nothing will tell you this, but you're seeing where just a smidge of one of the fortunes made off of all those guns went. A sumptuous flagship store. A "nature arena." And the fee that for one night only is paying the World's Greatest Rock n Roll Band.

Or maybe I'm wrong, Reuters is right, and Chuck's fish brought them there.

I wonder if someday one of our big winners in this industry here will decide to re-purpose his fortune in a fashion more like how Alfred Nobel did with his dynamite wealth.

But I'm not holding my breath.

Supply and demand. There's a demand, somebody's going to supply them.

Don't want to turn the purpose of a much anticipated show into an unrelated debate, more importantly who's the opening act? Or is there one?

I always wanted to go to Branson. This crazy Japanese fiddler, Shoji Tabuchi, was the "King of Branson" entertainment for years. I used to watch video clips of his shows, and they were Las Vegas style numbers played to an audience of senior citizens. He even had his own theater and he did a rap number with a guy in the band he dubbed "MC Hammerhead". It all sounded a little twisted, and I had always intended to go, but Shoji died last year. Oh well, there just isn't enough time to do everything you want in life.

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Supply and demand. There's a demand, somebody's going to supply them.

Don't want to turn the purpose of a much anticipated show into an unrelated debate, more importantly who's the opening act? Or is there one?

Hopefully Yakov Smirnov

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Supply and demand. There's a demand, somebody's going to supply them.

Don't want to turn the purpose of a much anticipated show into an unrelated debate, more importantly who's the opening act? Or is there one?

Hopefully Yakov Smirnov

I did notice there hasn't been a single room available at Big Cedar Lodge since the announcement, and it's a big place, surely the Stones entourage doesn't take up that much space. Could it be reserved also for a variety of special guests? Would seem like an unlikely place for a show like that though.

Samantha Fish just announced as opener! Which is great because that was going to be my booby prize if I didn't get in 7/13.

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Samantha Fish just announced as opener!

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Samantha Fish just announced as opener! Which is great because that was going to be my booby prize if I didn't get in 7/13.

I'm so thrilled Sam is on the Bill, after one of her shows here in AZ years ago I gave her a flash-drive full of rare Stones out takes, concerts Etc. she leaned in close & breathlessly whispered “I Love the Stones” I said I know I can hear it! I've been waiting her to open for the Stones I always thought it would happen at Jazz Fest,
Cheers,

she cancelled an announced show in Great falls, Montana on 7/21 to be the opener
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Samantha Fish just announced as opener!

[X.com]

I've been bashing on (deservedly, I still insist) Johnny Morris... and here he all of a sudden does the right thing and gives Samantha a long, long overdue opening slot for the Stones

Holy Crap! I've been touting her as an ideal opener for years... while also condemning the Stones for just selling loads of the slots to a billionaire who has in no way earned them.

I even commiserated with Samanrha after a Richmond show almost 3 years ago, about that very thing.

Well, Hallelujah. I don't believe prayers get answered, but maybe sometimes complaints do.

Oh, she's gonna slay this. I hope somebody streams or posts it!

Can't wait for Bjornulf's review on this one.

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Samantha Fish just announced as opener!

[X.com]

I've been bashing on (deservedly, I still insist) Johnny Morris... and here he all of a sudden does the right thing and gives Samantha a long, long overdue opening slot for the Stones

Holy Crap! I've been touting her as an ideal opener for years... while also condemning the Stones for just selling loads of the slots to a billionaire who has in no way earned them.

I even commiserated with Samanrha after a Richmond show almost 3 years ago, about that very thing.

Well, Hallelujah. I don't believe prayers get answered, but maybe sometimes complaints do.

Oh, she's gonna slay this. I hope somebody streams or posts it!

I will post it. People need to hear her and I doubt there is much interest or need for the nonsense that happens with Stones recordings.

Great addition to the show. Samantha is the real deal and the perfect opener for the Rolling Stones. She knows her stuff as far as blues and playing guitar go. She could sit down with Mick and Keith and shoot the shit about rock and roll music!
I always go to her show when she comes in my area.

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Great addition to the show. Samantha is the real deal and the perfect opener for the Rolling Stones. She knows her stuff as far as blues and playing guitar go. She could sit down with Mick and Keith and shoot the shit about rock and roll music!
I always go to her show when she comes in my area.

I find Samantha so enjoyable, beyond for her skill and her performance style -- love her Marilyn-meets-floozy stage look -- because her favorite category of blues I have to say is probably mine as well. North Mississippi Hill Country blues. Including the really out-there, gritty, raw, almost scary stuff of RL Burnside, Junior Kimbrough, T-Model Ford; before them was Mississippi Fred McDowell.

Samantha's also an absolute dear, and has an incredible work ethic. After every show she's always out at the merch table, signing stuff, talking to whoever wants to... I've got a pic with her. (Of course I'd imagine that'll have to be set aside for a concert this big.) She's a true blues road warrior.

I hope she gets to meet the Stones. The boys will be making a mistake if they don't meet with her.

She, Slash, and Kingfish Ingram are on the cover of the latest Guitar World magazine, they're doing a blues tour together. Samantha had never gotten to meet Slash until the shoot for the magazine pictures.

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It was years ago so I hope I'm remembering this right. But I think I once read in an interview of her, Samantha named as her "Desert Island Disc" Sticky Fingers. Now there's a young woman with good taste, I remember thinking.

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(Might copy this over to the 2024 Opening Acts thread. After this month it'll probably be a better archive for Sam finally getting a Stones gig.)



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She, Slash, and Kingfish Ingram are on the cover of the latest Guitar World magazine, they're doing a blues tour together.

Slash & Samantha will be at the Greek in L.A. on Saturday if anyone's got nothing else planned that night.



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Now if anyone is landing in Springfield Friday night or departing Monday afternoon and wants to split rideshare lemme know. Also any ideas of any shuttles or ways into venue as well.

Hi Dan/all - not sure how far you got with transport ideas to/from the show but I’m staying in Branson (from 19th to 22nd), keen to hear suggestions.