For information about how to use this forum please check out forum help and policies.
Quote
GasLightStreetQuote
bakersfield
Yes Emotional Rescue was number one but has been forgotten by everyone except obsessive Stones fans, I'm talking cultural impact, not sales.
Oh ho ho ho... I know plenty of chicks that love Dance, the title track and She's So Cold. Chicks are where it's at.
It's not as big as TATTOO YOU or SOME GIRLS, regardless of going number one in the US and UK, the last time that happened, but it's still big.
Don't underestimate the power of being down in the hole.[/quote
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-10-06 12:22 by Big Al.
Quote
GasLightStreet
SOME GIRLS was number 2 in the UK, EMOTIONAL RESCUE was number 1 in the UK.
ER was number 1 in 5 countries, SG in 2.
SG was on the chart for 25 weeks, ER for 18.
TATTOO YOU reached number 2 in the UK for 29 weeks.
A super deluxe of ER seems reasonable. Since they still think that way.
Reading the GHS book, they recorded 30 or so songs yet the bonus disc is anemic in that regard. One was a B-side, oddly not included on the deluxe; one was on IORR, two were on TY. One made that TY's deluxe. Two made the GHS deluxe.
Where are the rest?
Quote
GasLightStreetQuote
bakersfield
Yes Emotional Rescue was number one but has been forgotten by everyone except obsessive Stones fans, I'm talking cultural impact, not sales.
Oh ho ho ho... I know plenty of chicks that love Dance, the title track and She's So Cold. Chicks are where it's at.
It's not as big as TATTOO YOU or SOME GIRLS, regardless of going number one in the US and UK, the last time that happened, but it's still big.
Don't underestimate the power of being down in the hole.
Quote
Big AlQuote
GasLightStreetQuote
bakersfield
Yes Emotional Rescue was number one but has been forgotten by everyone except obsessive Stones fans, I'm talking cultural impact, not sales.
Oh ho ho ho... I know plenty of chicks that love Dance, the title track and She's So Cold. Chicks are where it's at.
It's not as big as TATTOO YOU or SOME GIRLS, regardless of going number one in the US and UK, the last time that happened, but it's still big.
Don't underestimate the power of being down in the hole.
‘Plenty of chicks’? That album was forty-four years’ ago. Surely, they’re more likely to be mummified hens, today?
Quote
Big AlQuote
GasLightStreetQuote
bakersfield
Yes Emotional Rescue was number one but has been forgotten by everyone except obsessive Stones fans, I'm talking cultural impact, not sales.
Oh ho ho ho... I know plenty of chicks that love Dance, the title track and She's So Cold. Chicks are where it's at.
It's not as big as TATTOO YOU or SOME GIRLS, regardless of going number one in the US and UK, the last time that happened, but it's still big.
Don't underestimate the power of being down in the hole.
‘Plenty of chicks’? That album was forty-four years’ ago. Surely, they’re more likely to be mummified hens, today?
Quote
GasLightStreetQuote
Big AlQuote
GasLightStreetQuote
bakersfield
Yes Emotional Rescue was number one but has been forgotten by everyone except obsessive Stones fans, I'm talking cultural impact, not sales.
Oh ho ho ho... I know plenty of chicks that love Dance, the title track and She's So Cold. Chicks are where it's at. [rig[/right]
It's not as big as TATTOO YOU or SOME GIRLS, regardless of going number one in the US and UK, the last time that happened, but it's still big.
Don't underestimate the power of being down in the hole.
‘Plenty of chicks’? That album was forty-four years’ ago. Surely, they’re more likely to be mummified hens, today?
The women of my age/generation still love those songs.
Quote
Rockman
Ya need 'em all ... simple as that
Quote
MadMaxQuote
Rockman
Ya need 'em all ... simple as that
AMEN, as usual you are 100 % right Terry!
Although I missed out on the EOMS SD for being a studid c**t and just getting the 2CD version (I bought the L & G SD though which made up some).
I have the rest of the Super Deluxes and for me SG, SF and TY were the most satisfying. The beautiful b/w poster with Ahmet and the lads by the fountain and the Pathé Marconi b/w pic with Keith holding his black Tele Custom standing with the rest of the boys are worth the price alone! Hung 'em on my wall along with all setlists, looks ace. The SF box is tasty as f***.
Now if they released my 2nd favourite album (after ironically EOMS) Emotional Rescue I would buy two, just think about the outtakes that match the SG bonus disc (and TY's too....)
That album surely deserves a SD-treatment!
Quote
GasLightStreet
UMG should reissue REWIND only as a deluxe. They made such a stink about FORTY LICKS, which... seemed a bit strange since the stupid 2012 comp had Don't Stop on it.
Quote
Taylor1
A 1972 tour deluxe. With a compendium of their best live performances, or a single city with great sound and performance. A disk of their best tour rehearsals. And any film of the live shows such as complete performances of the songs seen in snippets in CS Blues and Crossfire Hurricane.Also anything still in existence the Dick Cavett show filmed and Ladies and Gentlemen outakes
Quote
georgelicksQuote
GasLightStreet
UMG should reissue REWIND only as a deluxe. They made such a stink about FORTY LICKS, which... seemed a bit strange since the stupid 2012 comp had Don't Stop on it.
Rewind is by far their worst "main" selling compilation ever, and the worst charting too, it reached #86 in the US in 1984 with only 11 weeks on the Top 200 (even the recent one, Honk, reached #23 in 2019 with 19 weeks on the Top 200) and only reached Gold status in May 2000, 16 years after the realese and with the brand new CD format available during the big days of CD's sales in the late 80's and 90's.
No one knows this album, except the few folks still alive which still got the album from back in the day.
They need a NEW compilation in the States NOW with their biggest 18-20 streaming hits from 1964-1981 and released at very low cost, Hot Rocks is expensive and lacks some hits as Angie, Beast Of Burden and Start Me Up, they are missing many weeks of charts in Billboard now because of this, a low cost hits album to chart every week in the States.
Quote
GasLightStreetQuote
georgelicksQuote
GasLightStreet
UMG should reissue REWIND only as a deluxe. They made such a stink about FORTY LICKS, which... seemed a bit strange since the stupid 2012 comp had Don't Stop on it.
Rewind is by far their worst "main" selling compilation ever, and the worst charting too, it reached #86 in the US in 1984 with only 11 weeks on the Top 200 (even the recent one, Honk, reached #23 in 2019 with 19 weeks on the Top 200) and only reached Gold status in May 2000, 16 years after the realese and with the brand new CD format available during the big days of CD's sales in the late 80's and 90's.
No one knows this album, except the few folks still alive which still got the album from back in the day.
They need a NEW compilation in the States NOW with their biggest 18-20 streaming hits from 1964-1981 and released at very low cost, Hot Rocks is expensive and lacks some hits as Angie, Beast Of Burden and Start Me Up, they are missing many weeks of charts in Billboard now because of this, a low cost hits album to chart every week in the States.
All the more reason to reissue it!
HONK sold 100,000 copies. JUMP BACK sold very well, over 3 million, even charting in the US when it was officially released, bizarrely.
Quote
Taylor1
A1972 tour deluxe.With a compendium of their best live performances, or a single city with great sound and performance.Adisk of their best tour rehearsals.And any film of the live shows such as complete performances of the songs seen in snippets in CS Blues and Cross fire Hurricane.Also anything still in existence the Dick Cavett show filmed and Ladies and Gentlemen outakes
Quote
georgemcdonnell314
Wasn't there an alternative version of Wild Horses on some of the Hot Rocks compilation?
Has this been released anywhere else?
Quote
hockenheim95
I don't see any sense in compilation albums of well known material anymore. These compilations were made for people who want to get into a band and just listen to the well known tracks.
Today nearly all people do this digitally via streaming services like Spotify or YouTube with hundreds of different playlists. The songs are available for everyone. In the past this wasn't the case, that's why compilation albums were important.
Today they are one more collection item for people who need everything. But there's no big money in it.
Quote
GasLightStreetQuote
hockenheim95
I don't see any sense in compilation albums of well known material anymore. These compilations were made for people who want to get into a band and just listen to the well known tracks.
Today nearly all people do this digitally via streaming services like Spotify or YouTube with hundreds of different playlists. The songs are available for everyone. In the past this wasn't the case, that's why compilation albums were important.
Today they are one more collection item for people who need everything. But there's no big money in it.
I agree. When HONK came out I was surprised - WTF, why!!!??? Newest track was from 2012. What a bore. Yet... a fantastic comp. Yet the Stones gave it zero acknowledgment on the 2019 tour.
But... my sentiments about a deluxe REWIND are only in regard to how the Stones and, well, UMG, think/operate (and because I like the comp so it's selfish). They reissued FORTY LICKS for a ridiculous reason. It makes zero sense. UMG already had the shit named 2012 comp out that featured more than FORTY LICKS, the second ABKCO/Promotone release.
Of course it's pointless. It's not even a "money grab". Yeah, I know, it would "eventually sell". That means nothing now.
Everything eventually sells I suppose but to essentially no return. In the 2020s something might sell 50 or 300 hard copies. Or for some reason, maybe 500,000 (old people or country music fans). Vinyl... maybe 1500 people buy it. I dunno. It's expensive and you have to be a nutball buying a vinyl album of a digital recording - you're really only buying it for the artwork.
Quote
GasLightStreet
But... my sentiments about a deluxe REWIND are only in regard to how the Stones and, well, UMG, think/operate (and because I like the comp so it's selfish). They reissued FORTY LICKS for a ridiculous reason. It makes zero sense. UMG already had the shit named 2012 comp out that featured more than FORTY LICKS, the second ABKCO/Promotone release.
Of course it's pointless. It's not even a "money grab". Yeah, I know, it would "eventually sell". That means nothing now.
Everything eventually sells I suppose but to essentially no return. In the 2020s something might sell 50 or 300 hard copies. Or for some reason, maybe 500,000 (old people or country music fans). Vinyl... maybe 1500 people buy it. I dunno. It's expensive and you have to be a nutball buying a vinyl album of a digital recording - you're really only buying it for the artwork.
Quote
BlueTurns2GreyQuote
georgemcdonnell314
Wasn't there an alternative version of Wild Horses on some of the Hot Rocks compilation?
Has this been released anywhere else?
The first pressings (2PS6067), the so called 'Shelley' pressings, included earlier versions of Brown Sugar and Wild Horses. Officially never released again, but included on many bootlegs.
Quote
hockenheim95Quote
GasLightStreetQuote
hockenheim95
I don't see any sense in compilation albums of well known material anymore. These compilations were made for people who want to get into a band and just listen to the well known tracks.
Today nearly all people do this digitally via streaming services like Spotify or YouTube with hundreds of different playlists. The songs are available for everyone. In the past this wasn't the case, that's why compilation albums were important.
Today they are one more collection item for people who need everything. But there's no big money in it.
I agree. When HONK came out I was surprised - WTF, why!!!??? Newest track was from 2012. What a bore. Yet... a fantastic comp. Yet the Stones gave it zero acknowledgment on the 2019 tour.
But... my sentiments about a deluxe REWIND are only in regard to how the Stones and, well, UMG, think/operate (and because I like the comp so it's selfish). They reissued FORTY LICKS for a ridiculous reason. It makes zero sense. UMG already had the shit named 2012 comp out that featured more than FORTY LICKS, the second ABKCO/Promotone release.
Of course it's pointless. It's not even a "money grab". Yeah, I know, it would "eventually sell". That means nothing now.
Everything eventually sells I suppose but to essentially no return. In the 2020s something might sell 50 or 300 hard copies. Or for some reason, maybe 500,000 (old people or country music fans). Vinyl... maybe 1500 people buy it. I dunno. It's expensive and you have to be a nutball buying a vinyl album of a digital recording - you're really only buying it for the artwork.
The reissue of Forty Licks made sense for me as 3 songs were not available anymore. With this move the could grab cash from people buying everything and on the other hand releasing the 3 missing songs for the first time on streaming platforms.