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Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: October 6, 2024 12:20

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bakersfield
Yes Emotional Rescue was number one but has been forgotten by everyone except obsessive Stones fans, I'm talking cultural impact, not sales.

Oh ho ho ho... I know plenty of chicks that love Dance, the title track and She's So Cold. Chicks are where it's at.

It's not as big as TATTOO YOU or SOME GIRLS, regardless of going number one in the US and UK, the last time that happened, but it's still big.

Don't underestimate the power of being down in the hole.[/quote



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Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: October 6, 2024 17:16

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GasLightStreet
SOME GIRLS was number 2 in the UK, EMOTIONAL RESCUE was number 1 in the UK.

ER was number 1 in 5 countries, SG in 2.

SG was on the chart for 25 weeks, ER for 18.

TATTOO YOU reached number 2 in the UK for 29 weeks.


A super deluxe of ER seems reasonable. Since they still think that way.

Reading the GHS book, they recorded 30 or so songs yet the bonus disc is anemic in that regard. One was a B-side, oddly not included on the deluxe; one was on IORR, two were on TY. One made that TY's deluxe. Two made the GHS deluxe.

Where are the rest?

Good question ! There are some song titles making the rounds of course like "After Muddy and Charlie", "Jamaica", "Zabadoo", etc...but do they really exist? Are they finished ? And also songs we know exist like "English Rose" as it was played back at De Doelen in Rotterdam during the 75 rehearsals.

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Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: October 6, 2024 21:41

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GasLightStreet
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bakersfield
Yes Emotional Rescue was number one but has been forgotten by everyone except obsessive Stones fans, I'm talking cultural impact, not sales.

Oh ho ho ho... I know plenty of chicks that love Dance, the title track and She's So Cold. Chicks are where it's at.

It's not as big as TATTOO YOU or SOME GIRLS, regardless of going number one in the US and UK, the last time that happened, but it's still big.

Don't underestimate the power of being down in the hole.

‘Plenty of chicks’? That album was forty-four years’ ago. Surely, they’re more likely to be mummified hens, today?

Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: Bastion ()
Date: October 6, 2024 22:14

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Big Al
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GasLightStreet
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bakersfield
Yes Emotional Rescue was number one but has been forgotten by everyone except obsessive Stones fans, I'm talking cultural impact, not sales.

Oh ho ho ho... I know plenty of chicks that love Dance, the title track and She's So Cold. Chicks are where it's at.

It's not as big as TATTOO YOU or SOME GIRLS, regardless of going number one in the US and UK, the last time that happened, but it's still big.

Don't underestimate the power of being down in the hole.

‘Plenty of chicks’? That album was forty-four years’ ago. Surely, they’re more likely to be mummified hens, today?

Right? The only thing that keeps me coming back to this site is to witness the relics blurt out something horrifying.

Spooky season indeed.

Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: Taylor1 ()
Date: October 6, 2024 22:27

She’s So Cold doesn’t sound like it would get any women excited.

Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: October 6, 2024 22:32

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Big Al
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GasLightStreet
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bakersfield
Yes Emotional Rescue was number one but has been forgotten by everyone except obsessive Stones fans, I'm talking cultural impact, not sales.

Oh ho ho ho... I know plenty of chicks that love Dance, the title track and She's So Cold. Chicks are where it's at.

It's not as big as TATTOO YOU or SOME GIRLS, regardless of going number one in the US and UK, the last time that happened, but it's still big.

Don't underestimate the power of being down in the hole.

‘Plenty of chicks’? That album was forty-four years’ ago. Surely, they’re more likely to be mummified hens, today?

The women of my age/generation still love those songs.

Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: October 7, 2024 08:21

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GasLightStreet
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Big Al
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GasLightStreet
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bakersfield
Yes Emotional Rescue was number one but has been forgotten by everyone except obsessive Stones fans, I'm talking cultural impact, not sales.

Oh ho ho ho... I know plenty of chicks that love Dance, the title track and She's So Cold. Chicks are where it's at. [rig[/right]

It's not as big as TATTOO YOU or SOME GIRLS, regardless of going number one in the US and UK, the last time that happened, but it's still big.

Don't underestimate the power of being down in the hole.

‘Plenty of chicks’? That album was forty-four years’ ago. Surely, they’re more likely to be mummified hens, today?

The women of my age/generation still love those songs.

Oh, I’m sure they do! I was pulling your leg winking smiley

Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: MadMax ()
Date: October 7, 2024 09:21

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Rockman
Ya need 'em all ... simple as that

AMEN, as usual you are 100 % right Terry! smileys with beer

Although I missed out on the EOMS SD for being a studid c**t and just getting the 2CD version (I bought the L & G SD though which made up some).

I have the rest of the Super Deluxes and for me SG, SF and TY were the most satisfying. The beautiful b/w poster with Ahmet and the lads by the fountain and the Pathé Marconi b/w pic with Keith holding his black Tele Custom standing with the rest of the boys are worth the price alone! Hung 'em on my wall along with all setlists, looks ace. The SF box is tasty as f***.

Now if they released my 2nd favourite album (after ironically EOMS) Emotional Rescue I would buy two, just think about the outtakes that match the SG bonus disc (and TY's too....)

That album surely deserves a SD-treatment! smileys with beer

Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: mick64 ()
Date: October 7, 2024 18:56

Do you think it is likely that they release the 10 inch maxis from 1978 or is it impossible?

Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: October 7, 2024 20:02

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MadMax
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Rockman
Ya need 'em all ... simple as that

AMEN, as usual you are 100 % right Terry! smileys with beer

Although I missed out on the EOMS SD for being a studid c**t and just getting the 2CD version (I bought the L & G SD though which made up some).

I have the rest of the Super Deluxes and for me SG, SF and TY were the most satisfying. The beautiful b/w poster with Ahmet and the lads by the fountain and the Pathé Marconi b/w pic with Keith holding his black Tele Custom standing with the rest of the boys are worth the price alone! Hung 'em on my wall along with all setlists, looks ace. The SF box is tasty as f***.

Now if they released my 2nd favourite album (after ironically EOMS) Emotional Rescue I would buy two, just think about the outtakes that match the SG bonus disc (and TY's too....)

That album surely deserves a SD-treatment! smileys with beer

Emotional Rescue was my first Stones album and I would absolutely buy a SD version.

Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: October 7, 2024 20:24

UMG should reissue REWIND only as a deluxe. They made such a stink about FORTY LICKS, which... seemed a bit strange since the stupid 2012 comp had Don't Stop on it.

Disc one: original track order only include UK/North American differences

Disc two: anything post-1983 including No Spare Parts, Plundered, Criss Cross, Fiji Jim, up through HACKNEY DIAMONDS.

Why should they? Why not. It's a classic compilation. The Stones love releasing compilations (7 excluding 2002 and 2012), in name, at least, obviously post 1970 they're not nearly as bad as ABKCO (14 excluding 2002 and 2012).

Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: Taylor1 ()
Date: October 7, 2024 22:04

A1972 tour deluxe.With a compendium of their best live performances, or a single city with great sound and performance.Adisk of their best tour rehearsals.And any film of the live shows such as complete performances of the songs seen in snippets in CS Blues and Cross fire Hurricane.Also anything still in existence the Dick Cavett show filmed and Ladies and Gentlemen outakes



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Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: georgelicks ()
Date: October 8, 2024 00:07

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UMG should reissue REWIND only as a deluxe. They made such a stink about FORTY LICKS, which... seemed a bit strange since the stupid 2012 comp had Don't Stop on it.

Rewind is by far their worst "main" selling compilation ever, and the worst charting too, it reached #86 in the US in 1984 with only 11 weeks on the Top 200 (even the recent one, Honk, reached #23 in 2019 with 19 weeks on the Top 200) and only reached Gold status in May 2000, 16 years after the realese and with the brand new CD format available during the big days of CD's sales in the late 80's and 90's.

No one knows this album, except the few folks still alive which still got the album from back in the day.

They need a NEW compilation in the States NOW with their biggest 18-20 streaming hits from 1964-1981 and released at very low cost, Hot Rocks is expensive and lacks some hits as Angie, Beast Of Burden and Start Me Up, they are missing many weeks of charts in Billboard now because of this, a low cost hits album to chart every week in the States.

Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: Ricky ()
Date: October 8, 2024 00:30

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Taylor1
A 1972 tour deluxe. With a compendium of their best live performances, or a single city with great sound and performance. A disk of their best tour rehearsals. And any film of the live shows such as complete performances of the songs seen in snippets in CS Blues and Crossfire Hurricane.Also anything still in existence the Dick Cavett show filmed and Ladies and Gentlemen outakes


Maybe it's because it's what I miss the most, but I have the impression that that would be the Box Set that would have the most success.
Meanwhile...
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Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: October 8, 2024 03:01

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georgelicks
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GasLightStreet
UMG should reissue REWIND only as a deluxe. They made such a stink about FORTY LICKS, which... seemed a bit strange since the stupid 2012 comp had Don't Stop on it.

Rewind is by far their worst "main" selling compilation ever, and the worst charting too, it reached #86 in the US in 1984 with only 11 weeks on the Top 200 (even the recent one, Honk, reached #23 in 2019 with 19 weeks on the Top 200) and only reached Gold status in May 2000, 16 years after the realese and with the brand new CD format available during the big days of CD's sales in the late 80's and 90's.

No one knows this album, except the few folks still alive which still got the album from back in the day.

They need a NEW compilation in the States NOW with their biggest 18-20 streaming hits from 1964-1981 and released at very low cost, Hot Rocks is expensive and lacks some hits as Angie, Beast Of Burden and Start Me Up, they are missing many weeks of charts in Billboard now because of this, a low cost hits album to chart every week in the States.

All the more reason to reissue it!

HONK sold 100,000 copies. JUMP BACK sold very well, over 3 million, even charting in the US when it was officially released, bizarrely.

Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: MadMax ()
Date: October 8, 2024 03:06

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GasLightStreet
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georgelicks
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GasLightStreet
UMG should reissue REWIND only as a deluxe. They made such a stink about FORTY LICKS, which... seemed a bit strange since the stupid 2012 comp had Don't Stop on it.

Rewind is by far their worst "main" selling compilation ever, and the worst charting too, it reached #86 in the US in 1984 with only 11 weeks on the Top 200 (even the recent one, Honk, reached #23 in 2019 with 19 weeks on the Top 200) and only reached Gold status in May 2000, 16 years after the realese and with the brand new CD format available during the big days of CD's sales in the late 80's and 90's.

No one knows this album, except the few folks still alive which still got the album from back in the day.

They need a NEW compilation in the States NOW with their biggest 18-20 streaming hits from 1964-1981 and released at very low cost, Hot Rocks is expensive and lacks some hits as Angie, Beast Of Burden and Start Me Up, they are missing many weeks of charts in Billboard now because of this, a low cost hits album to chart every week in the States.

All the more reason to reissue it!

HONK sold 100,000 copies. JUMP BACK sold very well, over 3 million, even charting in the US when it was officially released, bizarrely.

Come on fellas!!

Grrr was worth the stash just because One More Shot was on it!! Saved the day for my bachelor trip to Cancun!!!! smileys with beer



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Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: MadMax ()
Date: October 8, 2024 03:26

Anyway bring on Paris III from 2017, it starts with a sleazy naughty Sympathy and it has THE most soulful Slipping Away since 1792!!!!

Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: October 8, 2024 08:17

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Taylor1
A1972 tour deluxe.With a compendium of their best live performances, or a single city with great sound and performance.Adisk of their best tour rehearsals.And any film of the live shows such as complete performances of the songs seen in snippets in CS Blues and Cross fire Hurricane.Also anything still in existence the Dick Cavett show filmed and Ladies and Gentlemen outakes

all sounds great

but what i want is for them to just f-ing release c-cksucker blues already!

its been fifty plus years just release it

i know what you'll say it's boring and the only interesting parts are the live performances

well robert franks supposedly shot a tremendous amount of footage if that still survives get someone like peter jackson to create something better (and longer) with better sound and release franks's version with it

and the audio from the philadelpha shows

i think that would please pretty much us all

we can all talk about wanting this or that from the vaults but most of us i suspect would be over the moon with somethimg like this

Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: Jalfstra ()
Date: October 8, 2024 12:19

I'd like a new >71 compilation. But not just the big hits or singles. It would be nice to have some fan-favorite on it like Star Star, Rocks Off and Can't you Hear me Knocking instead of Rock and a Hard Place, Rain Fall Down, Don't Stop or Sexdrive. And FFS, design a good cover for once. Rewind, Sucking in the Seventees, Jump Back, Honk, Grrr!.. Horrible...

Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: hockenheim95 ()
Date: October 8, 2024 12:28

I don't see any sense in compilation albums of well known material anymore. These compilations were made for people who want to get into a band and just listen to the well known tracks.

Today nearly all people do this digitally via streaming services like Spotify or YouTube with hundreds of different playlists. The songs are available for everyone. In the past this wasn't the case, that's why compilation albums were important.

Today they are one more collection item for people who need everything. But there's no big money in it.

Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: Ricky ()
Date: October 9, 2024 00:52

I don't think we need more hits compilations. The only one that would interest me would be one that was made in digital format in 2013:
No Stone Unturned Vol. 1 & Vol. 2.
From wikipedia: In 2013, ABKCO included No Stone Unturned Vol. 1 and No Stone Unturned Vol. 2 in their comprehensive iTunes digital release The Rolling Stones 1963-1971. As that release focused on the UK album configurations, the two volumes included 43 "singles, B sides and more"[4] not included in the original UK studio albums and EPs, including many of their biggest hits, which were often contained in their US album counterparts, e.g. "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" on Out of Our Heads, "Paint It Black" on Aftermath and "Let's Spend the Night Together" on Between the Buttons.

The digital release of No Stone Unturned was designed in a similar fashion to The Beatles' Past Masters compilations: to supplement the band's UK albums and EPs to make a "Complete Collection Box Set" of the entire studio output of the band owned by ABKCO. Thus, four songs from the 1973 release were not included because they didn't meet this criterion:

"Poison Ivy (version 2)" – included on The Rolling Stones (EP), the much rarer version 1 was included instead
"Money" – included on The Rolling Stones (EP)
"I'm Moving On (live)" – live song from Got Live If You Want It! (EP), no live tracks were included
"2120 South Michigan Avenue (short version)" – an edit of the long version included on 12 x 5

Track listing
All songs by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, except where noted.

Vol. 1
No. Title Original release(s) Length
1. "Fortune Teller (version 1)" (Naomi Neville) UK – various artists LP Saturday Club (1964) US – More Hot Rocks (Big Hits & Fazed Cookies) (1972) 2:19
2. "Poison Ivy (version 1)" (Jerry Leiber, Mike Stoller) UK – various artists LP Saturday Club (1964) US – More Hot Rocks (Big Hits & Fazed Cookies) (1972) 2:37
3. "Come On" (Chuck Berry) UK – A-side (1963) / Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass) (1966) US – More Hot Rocks (Big Hits & Fazed Cookies) (1972) 1:49
4. "I Want to Be Loved" (Willie Dixon) UK – B-side of "Come On" (1963) US – Singles Collection: The London Years (1989) 1:52
5. "I Wanna Be Your Man" (John Lennon, Paul McCartney) UK – A-side (1963) / Milestones (1972) US – B-side of "Not Fade Away" (1964) 1:43
6. "Stoned" (Nanker Phelge) UK – B-side of "I Wanna Be Your Man" (1963) US – Singles Collection: The London Years (1989) 2:09
7. "Not Fade Away" (Charles Hardin, Norman Petty) UK – A-side (1964) / Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass) (1966) US – A-side (1964) / The Rolling Stones (England's Newest Hit Makers) (1964) 1:47
8. "It's All Over Now" (Bobby Womack, Shirley Womack) UK – A-side (1964) / Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass) (1966) US – 12 X 5 (1964) 3:27
9. "Good Times, Bad Times" UK – B-side of "It's All Over Now" US – 12 X 5 (1964) 2:32
10. "Time Is on My Side (organ intro version)" (Jerry Ragovoy) US – A side (1964) / 12 X 5 (1964) 2:53
11. "Congratulations" UK – Singles Collection: The London Years (1989) US – B-side of "Time Is on My Side (organ intro version)" (1964) / 12 X 5 (1964) 2:30
12. "Look What You've Done" (McKinley Morganfield) UK – Stone Age (1971) US – December's Children (And Everybody's) (1965) 2:17
13. "Little Red Rooster" (Willie Dixon) UK – A-side (1964) US – The Rolling Stones, Now! (1965) 3:07
14. "Everybody Needs Somebody to Love (short version)" (Solomon Burke, Bert Berns, Jerry Wexler) US – The Rolling Stones, Now! (1965) 2:59
15. "Surprise Surprise" UK – The Lord's Taverners Charity Album (1965) US – The Rolling Stones, Now! (1965) 2:33
16. "The Last Time" UK – A-side (1965) / Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass) (1966) US – A-side (1965) / Out of Our Heads (1965) 3:42
17. "Play with Fire" (Nanker Phelge) UK – B-side of "The Last Time" (1965) / Hot Rocks 1964-1971 (1971) US – B-side of "The Last Time" (1965) / Out of Our Heads (1965) 2:15
18. "One More Try" UK – Stone Age (1971) US – Out of Our Heads (1965) 1:57
19. "My Girl" (Smokey Robinson, Ronald White) UK – Stone Age (1971) US – Flowers (1967) 2:39
20. "I've Been Loving You Too Long" (Otis Redding, Jerry Butler) UK – Gimme Shelter (1971) US – Got Live If You Want It! (1966) 2:57
21. "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" UK – A-side (1965) / Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass) (1966) US – A-side (1965) / Out of Our Heads (1965) 3:44
22. "The Spider and the Fly" UK – B-side of "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction) (1965) US – Out of Our Heads (1965) 3:40
Vol. 2
No. Title Original release(s) Length
1. "Get Off of My Cloud" UK – A-side (1965) / Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass) (1966) US – A-side (1965) / December's Children (And Everybody's) (1965) 2:54
2. "The Singer Not the Song" UK – B-side of "Get Off of My Cloud" (1965) US – December's Children (And Everybody's) (1965) 2:24
3. "As Tears Go By" (Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Andrew Loog Oldham) UK – B-side of "19th Nervous Breakdown" (1966) / Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass) (1966) US – A-side (1965) / December's Children (And Everybody's) (1965) 2:47
4. "Blue Turns to Grey" UK – Stone Age (1971) US – December's Children (And Everybody's) (1965) 2:29
5. "19th Nervous Breakdown" UK & US – A-side (1966) / Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass) (1966) 3:57
6. "Sad Day" UK – No Stone Unturned (1973) US – B-side of "19th Nervous Breakdown" (1966) 3:03
7. "Sittin' on a Fence" UK – Through the Past Darkly (Big Hits Vol. 2) (1969) US – Flowers (1967) 3:04
8. "Ride on, Baby" US – Flowers (1967) 2:54
9. "Paint It Black" UK – A-side (1966) / Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass) (1966) US – A-side (1966) / Aftermath (1966) 3:25
10. "Long, Long While" UK – B-side to "Paint It Black" (1966) / No Stone Unturned (1973) US – More Hot Rocks (Big Hits & Fazed Cookies) (1972) 3:01
11. "Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing in the Shadow?" UK – A-side (1966) / Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass) (1966) US – A-side (1966) / Flowers (1967) 2:35
12. "Who's Driving Your Plane?" UK – B-side of "Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing in the Shadow?" (1966) / No Stone Unturned (1973) US – B-side of "Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing in the Shadow?" (1966) 3:13
13. "Let's Spend the Night Together" UK – A-side (1967) / Through the Past, Darkly (Big Hits Vol. 2) (1969) US – A-side (1967) / Between the Buttons (1967) 3:37
14. "Ruby Tuesday" UK – A-side (1967) / Through the Past, Darkly (Big Hits Vol. 2) (1969) US – A-side (1967) / Between the Buttons (1967) 3:16
15. "Dandelion" UK & US – B-side of "We Love You" (1967) / Through the Past, Darkly (Big Hits Vol. 2) (1969) 3:34
16. "We Love You" UK – A-side (1967) / Through the Past, Darkly (Big Hits Vol. 2) (1969) US – A-side (1967) / More Hot Rocks (Big Hits & Fazed Cookies) (1972) 4:22
17. "Child of the Moon (rmk)" UK & US – B-side of "Jumping Jack Flash" (1968) / More Hot Rocks (Big Hits & Fazed Cookies) (1972) 3:11
18. "Jumpin' Jack Flash" UK & US – A-side (1968) / Through the Past, Darkly (Big Hits Vol. 2) (1969) 3:44
19. "Honky Tonk Women" UK & US – A-side (1969) / Through the Past, Darkly (Big Hits Vol. 2) (1969) 3:02
20. "Brown Sugar" UK & US – A-side (1971) / Sticky Fingers (1971) 3:50
21. "Wild Horses" UK – Sticky Fingers (1971) US – A-side (1971) / Sticky Fingers (1971) 5:44

Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: elwoodpdowd ()
Date: October 9, 2024 01:08

Great suggestion for a physical release of No Stone Unturned volumes.

Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Date: October 9, 2024 03:39

Wasn't there an alternative version of Wild Horses on some of the Hot Rocks compilation?

Has this been released anywhere else?

Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: BlueTurns2Grey ()
Date: October 9, 2024 07:35

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Wasn't there an alternative version of Wild Horses on some of the Hot Rocks compilation?

Has this been released anywhere else?

The first pressings (2PS6067), the so called 'Shelley' pressings, included earlier versions of Brown Sugar and Wild Horses. Officially never released again, but included on many bootlegs.

Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: October 9, 2024 08:20

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hockenheim95
I don't see any sense in compilation albums of well known material anymore. These compilations were made for people who want to get into a band and just listen to the well known tracks.

Today nearly all people do this digitally via streaming services like Spotify or YouTube with hundreds of different playlists. The songs are available for everyone. In the past this wasn't the case, that's why compilation albums were important.

Today they are one more collection item for people who need everything. But there's no big money in it.

I agree. When HONK came out I was surprised - WTF, why!!!??? Newest track was from 2012. What a bore. Yet... a fantastic comp. Yet the Stones gave it zero acknowledgment on the 2019 tour.

But... my sentiments about a deluxe REWIND are only in regard to how the Stones and, well, UMG, think/operate (and because I like the comp so it's selfish). They reissued FORTY LICKS for a ridiculous reason. It makes zero sense. UMG already had the shit named 2012 comp out that featured more than FORTY LICKS, the second ABKCO/Promotone release.

Of course it's pointless. It's not even a "money grab". Yeah, I know, it would "eventually sell". That means nothing now.

Everything eventually sells I suppose but to essentially no return. In the 2020s something might sell 50 or 300 hard copies. Or for some reason, maybe 500,000 (old people or country music fans). Vinyl... maybe 1500 people buy it. I dunno. It's expensive and you have to be a nutball buying a vinyl album of a digital recording - you're really only buying it for the artwork.

Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: hockenheim95 ()
Date: October 9, 2024 10:38

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GasLightStreet
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hockenheim95
I don't see any sense in compilation albums of well known material anymore. These compilations were made for people who want to get into a band and just listen to the well known tracks.

Today nearly all people do this digitally via streaming services like Spotify or YouTube with hundreds of different playlists. The songs are available for everyone. In the past this wasn't the case, that's why compilation albums were important.

Today they are one more collection item for people who need everything. But there's no big money in it.

I agree. When HONK came out I was surprised - WTF, why!!!??? Newest track was from 2012. What a bore. Yet... a fantastic comp. Yet the Stones gave it zero acknowledgment on the 2019 tour.

But... my sentiments about a deluxe REWIND are only in regard to how the Stones and, well, UMG, think/operate (and because I like the comp so it's selfish). They reissued FORTY LICKS for a ridiculous reason. It makes zero sense. UMG already had the shit named 2012 comp out that featured more than FORTY LICKS, the second ABKCO/Promotone release.

Of course it's pointless. It's not even a "money grab". Yeah, I know, it would "eventually sell". That means nothing now.

Everything eventually sells I suppose but to essentially no return. In the 2020s something might sell 50 or 300 hard copies. Or for some reason, maybe 500,000 (old people or country music fans). Vinyl... maybe 1500 people buy it. I dunno. It's expensive and you have to be a nutball buying a vinyl album of a digital recording - you're really only buying it for the artwork.

The reissue of Forty Licks made sense for me as 3 songs were not available anymore. With this move the could grab cash from people buying everything and on the other hand releasing the 3 missing songs for the first time on streaming platforms.

Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: ironbelly ()
Date: October 9, 2024 13:24

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GasLightStreet

But... my sentiments about a deluxe REWIND are only in regard to how the Stones and, well, UMG, think/operate (and because I like the comp so it's selfish). They reissued FORTY LICKS for a ridiculous reason. It makes zero sense. UMG already had the shit named 2012 comp out that featured more than FORTY LICKS, the second ABKCO/Promotone release.

Of course it's pointless. It's not even a "money grab". Yeah, I know, it would "eventually sell". That means nothing now.

Everything eventually sells I suppose but to essentially no return. In the 2020s something might sell 50 or 300 hard copies. Or for some reason, maybe 500,000 (old people or country music fans). Vinyl... maybe 1500 people buy it. I dunno. It's expensive and you have to be a nutball buying a vinyl album of a digital recording - you're really only buying it for the artwork.

Well, no matter the numbers for sales but Rewind is among the most re-issued compilations.
1. 1985 - Japanese only 'black triangle' label with UK track list [CP35-5021]. At least 4 pressings were made, 3 by Toshiba and one by JVC. Out of print, usually overpriced on the secondhand market.
2. 1985 - Japan (Sanyo) for USA with US track list [Atlantic 7 90176-2]. Out of Print, kind of rare because it was made at the time the rights were transferred from WEA to CBS. But I was told this one is a usual guest in different thrift stores in the USA.
3. 1986 - 1993 CBS/Columbia editions with US track list [CBSCD 450 199 2]. God knows how many discs were pressed. For Europe I was able to track down 2 Japan for Europe pressings and at least 15 pressing runs from Sony-DADC plant in Austria. At least one Japan for USA pressing and at least 4 reissues made in the USA by SONY-DADC (the number of the pressing runs is not clear). At least 3 re-issues in Japan (32DP, 23DP and SRCS series, each one had at least two pressings).
4. 2019 - Japanese only SHM-CD with UK track list [UICY-78941] based on brickwalled mastering of Stephen Marcussen.
5. 2020 - Japan for the rest of the world SHM-CD with UK track list (identical to #4, but with letter K in the catalogue number) [UICY-78941K]. This one is still in press and widely available in the stores (at least in Europe).

Do we really need another reissue of Rewind? Seriously...



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Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: October 9, 2024 15:38

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Wasn't there an alternative version of Wild Horses on some of the Hot Rocks compilation?

Has this been released anywhere else?

The first pressings (2PS6067), the so called 'Shelley' pressings, included earlier versions of Brown Sugar and Wild Horses. Officially never released again, but included on many bootlegs.

Got it!

Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: georgelicks ()
Date: October 9, 2024 16:18

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I don't see any sense in compilation albums of well known material anymore. These compilations were made for people who want to get into a band and just listen to the well known tracks.

Today nearly all people do this digitally via streaming services like Spotify or YouTube with hundreds of different playlists. The songs are available for everyone. In the past this wasn't the case, that's why compilation albums were important.

Today they are one more collection item for people who need everything. But there's no big money in it.

I agree. When HONK came out I was surprised - WTF, why!!!??? Newest track was from 2012. What a bore. Yet... a fantastic comp. Yet the Stones gave it zero acknowledgment on the 2019 tour.

But... my sentiments about a deluxe REWIND are only in regard to how the Stones and, well, UMG, think/operate (and because I like the comp so it's selfish). They reissued FORTY LICKS for a ridiculous reason. It makes zero sense. UMG already had the shit named 2012 comp out that featured more than FORTY LICKS, the second ABKCO/Promotone release.

Of course it's pointless. It's not even a "money grab". Yeah, I know, it would "eventually sell". That means nothing now.

Everything eventually sells I suppose but to essentially no return. In the 2020s something might sell 50 or 300 hard copies. Or for some reason, maybe 500,000 (old people or country music fans). Vinyl... maybe 1500 people buy it. I dunno. It's expensive and you have to be a nutball buying a vinyl album of a digital recording - you're really only buying it for the artwork.

The reissue of Forty Licks made sense for me as 3 songs were not available anymore. With this move the could grab cash from people buying everything and on the other hand releasing the 3 missing songs for the first time on streaming platforms.

Forty Licks' re-issue was for the UK market, to have a big compilation of hits to get streaming points and chart every week on the UK album chart.

Here a good article from last year about it:

[www.musicweek.com]

Re: Another deluxe re-issue this year
Posted by: MingSubu ()
Date: October 9, 2024 17:54

Forgive me for not reading thru this thread.

Is a reissue being released this year? If so, what of?

Thanks

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