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Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Date: November 16, 2023 13:43

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noughties
This is the Achilles heel of the album. I heard it from day one.

What do you mean?

Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Posted by: Bjorn ()
Date: November 16, 2023 14:03

I always start the day, the album, with this...

Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Posted by: noughties ()
Date: November 16, 2023 16:17

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DandelionPowderman
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noughties
This is the Achilles heel of the album. I heard it from day one.

What do you mean?

It`s quite a common expression. Achilles heel = weak point.

Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Posted by: JumpingKentFlash ()
Date: November 16, 2023 19:03

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noughties
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DandelionPowderman
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noughties
This is the Achilles heel of the album. I heard it from day one.

What do you mean?

It`s quite a common expression. Achilles heel = weak point.

You think so? I’m surprised. To me it’s one of the best on there. The best on this album are these:
SSOH
WWW
TMS
RSB
GC

JumpingKentFlash

Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Posted by: goingmad ()
Date: November 16, 2023 19:22

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JumpingKentFlash
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noughties
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DandelionPowderman
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noughties
This is the Achilles heel of the album. I heard it from day one.

What do you mean?

It`s quite a common expression. Achilles heel = weak point.

You think so? I’m surprised. To me it’s one of the best on there. The best on this album are these:
SSOH
WWW
TMS
RSB
GC

The best for me with SSOH

Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Posted by: roryfaninva ()
Date: November 16, 2023 19:41

First thing I thought of when I saw the title listed...flashback to 1977.




Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Date: November 16, 2023 19:56

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noughties
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DandelionPowderman
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noughties
This is the Achilles heel of the album. I heard it from day one.

What do you mean?

It`s quite a common expression. Achilles heel = weak point.

Interesting, as most see it as the strong point. The song, that is smiling smiley



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Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Posted by: maumau ()
Date: November 16, 2023 21:52

the more representative track of the album, lyrically of course, and musically. a different (pop) way to rock with a killer riff by Keith, according to reports

Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Posted by: noughties ()
Date: November 16, 2023 23:44

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DandelionPowderman
Interesting, as most see it as the strong point. The song, that is smiling smiley

I´m struggling a bit with the song as previously stated, but I`m not the only one. Here`s a link to the Aftenposten review of the album. -Mainly positive, but that song is called "poor man´s rock" and "terrible". There´s a paywall, but you can hear the review, admittedly with an awkward pronounciation of some words, by pushing a button if you understand Norwegian:

[www.aftenposten.no]



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Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Date: November 17, 2023 08:52

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noughties
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DandelionPowderman
Interesting, as most see it as the strong point. The song, that is smiling smiley

I´m struggling a bit with the song as previously stated, but I`m not the only one. Here`s a link to the Aftenposten review of the album. -Mainly positive, but that song is called "poor man´s rock" and "terrible". There´s a paywall, but you can hear the review, admittedly with an awkward pronounciation of some words, by pushing a button if you understand Norwegian:

[www.aftenposten.no]

I am Norwegian and I did read that earlier.

Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 17, 2023 08:57

Where's Eric Snow ??????



ROCKMAN

Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Posted by: ekelundh ()
Date: November 17, 2023 11:53

Best song representing the core and essence of the new album. Great vocal delivery and guitars. Cool solo followed by bridge about "dreary streets of London not promising much" and with beautiful harmonies.

Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Posted by: big4 ()
Date: November 18, 2023 17:32

Anybody else hear the Whole Wide World riff in this too?

video: [youtu.be]

Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Posted by: walkingthedog ()
Date: November 18, 2023 22:50

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noughties
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DandelionPowderman
Interesting, as most see it as the strong point. The song, that is smiling smiley

I´m struggling a bit with the song as previously stated, but I`m not the only one. Here`s a link to the Aftenposten review of the album. -Mainly positive, but that song is called "poor man´s rock" and "terrible". There´s a paywall, but you can hear the review, admittedly with an awkward pronounciation of some words, by pushing a button if you understand Norwegian:

[www.aftenposten.no]

Not a review of great insight. He lists Depending On You, Driving Me Too Hard and Tell Me Straight as the weak points of the album. The last two at least seem to be fan favourites (and mine too). He also thinks that Darryl Jones is playing on the whole record.

Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Posted by: spikenyc ()
Date: November 19, 2023 00:23

Watching college football this afternoon on FOX and they played Whole Wide World going into a commercial.

Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 19, 2023 00:26

Powerful song .... needs to be broadcast to thee masses ....



ROCKMAN

Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Posted by: big4 ()
Date: November 19, 2023 06:46

It is built upon the riff from Brown Leaves.

Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: November 19, 2023 09:31

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big4
It is built upon the riff from Brown Leaves.

Don't think so, because the melodic structure is totally different.

Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: November 19, 2023 09:37

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Rockman
Where's Eric Snow ??????

Ask myself exactly that from time to time, wasn't it mentioned somewhere here that he's "off to Cuba"? Anyway, I really miss him.

Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: November 19, 2023 09:42

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Rockman
Powerful song .... needs to be broadcast to thee masses ....

Absolutely. I think it's no coincidence that WWW was one of the few new songs that already had their live debut at the recent club gig... It's a song that cries to be performed live!

Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Posted by: Testify ()
Date: November 19, 2023 12:17

This is one of the songs I love most!
Simply perfect, beautiful lyrics, beautiful Mick's voice, the riff, the solo.
The Stones still manage to amaze me in 2023, this is fantastic!

Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Posted by: noughties ()
Date: November 19, 2023 15:40

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walkingthedog
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noughties
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DandelionPowderman
Interesting, as most see it as the strong point. The song, that is smiling smiley

I´m struggling a bit with the song as previously stated, but I`m not the only one. Here`s a link to the Aftenposten review of the album. -Mainly positive, but that song is called "poor man´s rock" and "terrible". There´s a paywall, but you can hear the review, admittedly with an awkward pronounciation of some words, by pushing a button if you understand Norwegian:

[www.aftenposten.no]

Not a review of great insight. He lists Depending On You, Driving Me Too Hard and Tell Me Straight as the weak points of the album. The last two at least seem to be fan favourites (and mine too). He also thinks that Darryl Jones is playing on the whole record.

Agree. His take on those songs is way off the mark. The album deserves better insight.

Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Posted by: SecondSet ()
Date: November 21, 2023 02:32

I found it weak at first, but I agree that all of the "new wave" talk is close to the mark, even if Mess It Up is the actual new-wave/post-disco song - I hear a bit of a Clash nod especially in both the vocal and instrumental accents of the London-bridge-of-sorts, just like I hear a touch of Dolls in Bite My Head Off(, Frankenstein). Sort of charming.



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Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Posted by: SecondSet ()
Date: November 21, 2023 03:00

[Dupe post deleted]



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Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: November 21, 2023 18:04

One track where Charlie would have certainly drummed VERY differently is WWW, the drumming is a complete slugfest, an athletic performance of sorts, tasteless. Besides I'm pretty sure he speeds up towards the end.

I couldn't believe my ears when Paul Sexton said that track had "great drumming" during the 1 hour special !

Oddly, the drumming feels more subtle on the live version, now available courtesy of Justin's channel : [www.youtube.com]

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Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Posted by: SecondSet ()
Date: November 21, 2023 18:48

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gotdablouse
One track where Charlie would have certainly drummed VERY differently is WWW, the drumming is a complete slugfest, an athletic performance of sorts, tasteless. Besides I'm pretty sure he speeds up towards the end.

I don't disagree with this - Charlie brought a sense of swing that's essentially absent from this record. But in his absence they also seem to be pursuing musical territory they'd largely avoided previously, with some not-uninteresting results.

Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Date: November 21, 2023 19:54

Whole Wide World complete from the Racket, compiled by Justin.

[www.youtube.com]



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Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Posted by: HardRiffin ()
Date: November 21, 2023 20:16

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gotdablouse
One track where Charlie would have certainly drummed VERY differently is WWW, the drumming is a complete slugfest, an athletic performance of sorts, tasteless. Besides I'm pretty sure he speeds up towards the end.

I couldn't believe my ears when Paul Sexton said that track had "great drumming" during the 1 hour special !

Oddly, the drumming feels more subtle on the live version, now available courtesy of Justin's channel : [www.youtube.com]

[youtu.be]

Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: November 21, 2023 23:49

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HardRiffin
Quote
gotdablouse
One track where Charlie would have certainly drummed VERY differently is WWW, the drumming is a complete slugfest, an athletic performance of sorts, tasteless. Besides I'm pretty sure he speeds up towards the end.

I couldn't believe my ears when Paul Sexton said that track had "great drumming" during the 1 hour special !

Oddly, the drumming feels more subtle on the live version, now available courtesy of Justin's channel : [www.youtube.com]

[youtu.be]

" Whole Wide World - The Rolling Stones (drum cover in Charlie Watts style) "

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Re: Whole Wide World - Track Talk
Posted by: maumau ()
Date: November 22, 2023 00:47






the sweet sound of trainwrecking only the stones can deliver



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