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bakersfield
Absolutely agree.
Great songs. Great energy.
I’m fascinated to see where the next album takes them.
My only caveat is, I’d prefer it not to be so ‘brickwalled’ - but that’s a minor complaint
Unfortunately that's the way it's been for quite some time. It takes someone in the - it seems like they'd've heard from someone already about how bad their releases have been mastered post-BRIDGES.
Keith is so about vinyl... Mick is so about technology: somewhere they found a great chasm of difference, which, pre-1986, they gave a damn about the quality of their releases.
Mick doesn't have the time? He's got as much time as anyone on the planet. If he doesn't want to be bothered at least allow someone to have some QUAULITY control instead of letting some buffoon just make everything as loud as possible because "that's what the label wants" - screw the label, THEY DON'T CARE.
I found the vinyl sound of HD to be a pleasant surprise in the context of what we've become accustomed to...but GasLight's comments remain very pertinent.
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Well, they couldn't cut it too loud because its quite a long run time for a single LP...so it could in part be a happy accident.
[...but I'd like to think otherwise. ]
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Spud
Well, they couldn't cut it too loud because its quite a long run time for a single LP...so it could in part be a happy accident.
[...but I'd like to think otherwise. ]
Good point, it's 48 minutes.
It's a remarkable difference compared with the cd anyway
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bakersfield
That's interesting.
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Spud
Well, they couldn't cut it too loud because its quite a long run time for a single LP...so it could in part be a happy accident.
[...but I'd like to think otherwise. ]
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bakersfield
That's interesting.
Already posted here a while ago - [MagicVinylDigital.net] - Hackney Diamonds comparison: good sounding Vinyl & Dolby Atmos vs. brickwalled CD & HiRes.
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Doxa
I have now given the album a rest for some time. But each time I happen give it a random listening, or some track of it suddenly appears, I hear the diamond there. The spell doesn't disappear, and it is like a good old friend now, the one I trust and never lets me down. It's there with some other great albums to pick up if one feels like hearing something great for sure.
I like every tune in it - and there is no boring moment in the album - but I have found out that there are four that are absolutely killers and ones I can without a shame play next to their classic tunes. Those are:
"Angry". Oh shit, so bloody generic Stones tune as it ever can be, but there is something just so irresistible in it. A track that cannot be over-played - no, it just gets better. Every bloody time.
"Mess It Up". The best dance tune since "Miss You". Totally hooked. The chorus in its easiness is such an ear candy. Like any album tune it is totally old-fashionable, belonging to the genres dead and gone for ages now, but had it released, say, as a leading single of EMOTIONAL RESCUE instead the title track - that was quite a big hit at the time and an awesome tune in itself - this had a been a smash hit.
"Depending On You". One of their best ballads ever. Oh man, the dudes can really do that still. All of their other ballads for ages have been more or less half-arsed attempts, showing some promise, but never quite nailing it. But this does. Perfect. Like Mick and Keith discovering the good old melodic pop writer ability of theirs from the 60's. And Mick finally re-discovering how to deliver a ballad convincingly.
"Whole Wide World". Even more than "Sweet Sounds of Heaven" (a wonderful tune that for some reason didn't quite made my list) this is a fresh air in the album, the Stones doing something novel (for them), and succeeding 100%, them sounding natural. So natural that they don't even sound like doing anything novel (when was the last time?). Simple but genius rocker: the song structure, the riff, Mick's cockney... And damn that chorus is catchy... it makes the song fly!
- Doxa
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Well, they couldn't cut it too loud because its quite a long run time for a single LP...so it could in part be a happy accident.
[...but I'd like to think otherwise. ]
Vinyl can't be brickwalled!
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bakersfield
That's interesting.
Already posted here a while ago - [MagicVinylDigital.net] - Hackney Diamonds comparison: good sounding Vinyl & Dolby Atmos vs. brickwalled CD & HiRes.
The Rolling Stones should be EMBARRASSED by this. And in regard to their entire 1971-1997 (back) catalog thanks to StePHen Marcussen.
Bob Ludwig RULES.
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StonedRambler
It's 2024 and music does get compressed and brickwalled nowadays.
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StonedRambler
It's 2024 and music does get compressed and brickwalled nowadays.
No, that's not generally true. For instance, Giles Martin or Steven Wilson do not brickwalled masterings.
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Doxa
complaining - rightly IMO - about the brickwall is as useless
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Irix
Peter Gabriel's new i/o album has just a dynamic range of DR5-9. It was mastered by Matt Colton - he also did the loud DR5-7 mastering for 'Hackney Diamonds' (CD, Digital & HiRes).
But 'Hackney Diamonds' mixing/mastering for Dolby Atmos was done by Giles Martin.
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Doxa
complaining - rightly IMO - about the brickwall is as useless
It isn't. Listen to 'Hackney Diamonds' on CD, Digital or HiRes. Then listen again from Vinyl or Dolby Atmos. The latter are far better, sound-wise.
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StonedRambler
Yeah but those special formats do not really play a role in the general public.
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Doxa
complaining - rightly IMO - about the brickwall is as useless
It isn't. Listen to 'Hackney Diamonds' on CD, Digital or HiRes. Then listen again from Vinyl or Dolby Atmos. The latter are far better, sound-wise.
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Doxa
So what exactly is the reason to complain? Why not just listening them?
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StonedRambler
Yeah but those special formats do not really play a role in the general public.
Vinyl is a special format and doesn't really play a role in the general public?
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Doxa
So what exactly is the reason to complain? Why not just listening them?
Maybe complaining helps for better sound-quality of future releases. And not everyone has the opportunity to get all formats of a release and can choose the one with the best sound-quality.