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Many of the chief-analysts here praise the so "golden years" 68-72.
Funny fact is: In this era between "BB" and "Exile" nobody like them was there. Nobody as a kind of critic-fan was existent.
It was all about staying peaceful, easy and cool and open! and tolerant and let it flow and go.
Because people were like that in that time music could evolve in the way it did.
Minds wide open. Wide.
Totally unimaginable in those years that people DISCUSS a song. ANALYSE it note by note. Blaming artist for doing something with the 3rd string of their Telecaster in minute 3:02. Writing about a Stones song like they ordered a meal at delivery service and picking through every bit of it.
People like that weren't there. A posture a attitude like that wasn't there.
It was not in the music communities not in the fan-band relationships inspiring each other and producing the masterpieces we all have in our hearts forever.
And the most funny fact is: The super-critics are here now. But they still doesn't belong to the inner circle of band & music lovers making great tunes possible.
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skytrench
How the times change, was more tribal back then, none of the internet experts making their views public. Better or worse ?
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skytrench
How the times change, was more tribal back then, none of the internet experts making their views public. Better or worse ?
Less beatings on the Internet.
But in all seriousness would people throw insults like they do online because they don't agree with what you say if they couldn't hide behind a user name.
In the real world if someone spoke to me like they do on here they'd better be able to back it up with something.
Face to face would people be so insulting, i don't think so, but like my teenage years in the 70s the powers that be were never going to allow the peace and love and oneness of the 60s to last, divide and conquer is the way to keep the masses against each other, and now with the Internet they can divide everyone, I'm sure if I ever bumped into any of you guys I'd buy you a drink and we would have a laugh, that's how people behave in the real world if you let them, so yes it's worse now.
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I too look forward very much to hearing this song live next year. But, while I enjoy Sasha, I don’t think she can hit such high notes like Gaga did.
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powerage78
Lady Gaga contribution to this track is essential.
It's hard to imagine a live version without her presence, when everyone will remember the studio version. Not to mention her missing stage presence...
Frankly, and no offense to anyone, how are they going to perform this without Lady Gaga live?
As for Stevie Wonder, I'm already dreading Chuck Leavell's intervention.
I reckon we thought the same of Gimme Shelter. How would that work live without Mary Clayton. I love the the '72/'73 version without female vocals and of course Lisa Fischer did an amazing job that I never heard anyone top. Paradiso 1995 is just from another world.
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Lady Gaga contribution to this track is essential.
It's hard to imagine a live version without her presence, when everyone will remember the studio version. Not to mention her missing stage presence...
Frankly, and no offense to anyone, how are they going to perform this without Lady Gaga live?
As for Stevie Wonder, I'm already dreading Chuck Leavell's intervention.
I reckon we thought the same of Gimme Shelter. How would that work live without Mary Clayton. I love the the '72/'73 version without female vocals and of course Lisa Fischer did an amazing job that I never heard anyone top. Paradiso 1995 is just from another world.
I forgive Lady Gaga for saying Mary Clayton, but no one on this site should get that wrong. It’s Merry Clayton.
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Christiaan
Well if Lady Gaga “said” Mary Clayton or Merry Clayton, we’ll not sure about what she said, do we? Only if she “wrote” Mary Clayton we know.
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The Worst.
Justin Hawkins (from the Darkness, who opened a few shows for the Stones in 2003) goes through the song and chords here:
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Christiaan
Well if Lady Gaga “said” Mary Clayton or Merry Clayton, we’ll not sure about what she said, do we? Only if she “wrote” Mary Clayton we know.
Here you can read what Lady Gaga wrote - [www.Instagram.com] .
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Or, more likely, her PR-person?
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DandelionPowderman
Or, more likely, her PR-person?
Or the spellchecker?
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Topi
There're all kinds of possibilities...
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powerage78
Lady Gaga contribution to this track is essential.
It's hard to imagine a live version without her presence, when everyone will remember the studio version. Not to mention her missing stage presence...
Frankly, and no offense to anyone, how are they going to perform this without Lady Gaga live?
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I reckon we thought the same of Gimme Shelter. How would that work live without Mary Clayton. I love the the '72/'73 version without female vocals and of course Lisa Fischer did an amazing job that I never heard anyone top. Paradiso 1995 is just from another world.
And we even thought Lisa Fischer was irreplaceable. But the song still works extremely well with Sasha on vocals. Also the Chanel version last year was amazing.
So I think the song will not fail live due to the female singer.
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There're all kinds of possibilities...
But one thing is very clear: it wasn't Lady Gaga herself ....
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caschimann
My IORR is back! With this song we have a comeback a huge strong comeback of the positive power of this board. The enormous majority of unfrustrated, glass is half full, true believers in the fact that you can progress on and on if you let yourself go - they are here. And in fact, they never left, they just didn‘t take part in all those meantime threads about Mick‘s knee or which key Keith played on his third solo gig. But the matter of a new song, a pearl like this one, released them all. The real IORR army is present again. And it feels good. Don‘t mind the few Waldorf & Stadlers here. They simply belong to the show. Our show. And like the Stones we deliver a great one since Angry and Sweet Sounds came out.
Yeah, so right. If only because it adds to our amusement watching them ridiculing themselves over and over again!
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A jester, court jester, fool or joker was a member of the household of a nobleman or a monarch employed to entertain guests during royal court.
Jester's privilege is the ability and right of a jester to talk and mock freely without being punished. As an acknowledgement of this right, the court jester had symbols denoting their status and protection under the law.
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powerage78
Lady Gaga contribution to this track is essential.
It's hard to imagine a live version without her presence, when everyone will remember the studio version. Not to mention her missing stage presence...
Frankly, and no offense to anyone, how are they going to perform this without Lady Gaga live?
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I reckon we thought the same of Gimme Shelter. How would that work live without Mary Clayton. I love the the '72/'73 version without female vocals and of course Lisa Fischer did an amazing job that I never heard anyone top. Paradiso 1995 is just from another world.
And we even thought Lisa Fischer was irreplaceable. But the song still works extremely well with Sasha on vocals. Also the Chanel version last year was amazing.
So I think the song will not fail live due to the female singer.
Sasha??? nah not even in the same world.
Chanel? she did a great job and LOVE to see her replace Sasha as lineup change isn't a bad idea here.
Sasha imo has no soouuull when it comes to many of these songs and I cannot feel anything other than snippets of that from her. And Im usually on Keiths side pit next to ramp watching up close and personal. Just my opinion of course.
Even Miami 2019 which ended in rain got her all these rave reviews but except for a few lines that worked out with good pictures taken weren't all that if you actually listen closely. She has a hard time selling herself which for whatever reason has come so natural from Lisa since first I saw her 89?
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skytrench
Aren't we all jesters on the forums...sharing our frank opinions, making jokes or mocking/ridiculing others? As I get older, I get more restrained and hold it inside, not wanting to offend, but that's rather boring isn't it ?
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mailexile67
What position in UK charts?!Better than "Angry"...Top 30?!
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mailexile67
What position in UK charts?!Better than "Angry"...Top 30?!