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Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: DeanGoodman ()
Date: July 29, 2022 21:00

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So now it's 16.30 gates open. 18.30 warmup band. 19.00 ready. Stones 19.45 - 21.45 maybe?

Yes. Maybe. Last time was 20:30 to 22:45 showtime.

I don't expect it to start earlier than 20:30 due to too much daylight.

I saw Nick Cave there the other day. Most of the show took place in broad daylight, an unusual backdrop for his songs.

[www.deangoodman.com]

Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Date: July 29, 2022 21:43

Edinburgh 2018 and sint petersburgh 2007 vibes then

Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: July 29, 2022 21:50

Security-advices for Berlin Waldbühne now on the RS' webpage of [www.FKPScorpio.com] , [www.FKPScorpio.com] .

Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: slewan ()
Date: July 29, 2022 22:13

In 2014 the Stones took stage at 8:35pm and the show ended at 10:45pm

Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: Nankstone ()
Date: July 29, 2022 22:14

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So now it's 16.30 gates open. 18.30 warmup band. 19.00 ready. Stones 19.45 - 21.45 maybe?

Yes. Maybe. Last time was 20:30 to 22:45 showtime.

I don't expect it to start earlier than 20:30 due to too much daylight.

I saw Nick Cave there the other day. Most of the show took place in broad daylight, an unusual backdrop for his songs.
A Berlin friend told me that the Berlin Cultural Senate can (but does not have to) grant an exception to the actually strict new curfew for "events of importance". That could be the case at the Stones concert.

I'm also thinking of a start time for the Stones between 8pm - 8.30pm is realistic, but can also be different, who knows winking smiley

Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: July 30, 2022 11:35

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A Berlin friend told me that the Berlin Cultural Senate can (but does not have to) grant an exception to the actually strict new curfew for "events of importance".

Probably equal law for everyone - if the Stones get an exception then other artists wanna have it too ("Why they but not we?"). The article in [www.Berliner-Zeitung.de] doesn't give much hope for an exception. Strict curfew 22:00.

Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: Lien ()
Date: July 30, 2022 12:43

Dussmann , Berlin






Free poster in the store ,


and you can win two tickets here ;
( contest only for people in Germany )

[www.kulturkaufhaus.de]

Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: slewan ()
Date: July 31, 2022 17:32

only two days between Stockholm and Berlin… will this have any effects?

Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Date: July 31, 2022 17:46

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only two days between Stockholm and Berlin… will this have any effects?
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Posted by: slewan ()
Date: July 31, 2022 18:01

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only two days between Stockholm and Berlin… will this have any effects?
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Monday + Tuesday = 2 days

Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: KeVvV2011 ()
Date: July 31, 2022 20:52

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only two days between Stockholm and Berlin… will this have any effects?
Not as much as the predicted temperature of 33 Celsius, I reckon.

Question: are we supposed to simply write our names on the tickets? And will they actually cross-check this with IDs. Not a problem if so, just wondering what the procedure is.

Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: zgredzik ()
Date: July 31, 2022 21:48

Hi I have a question for everyone who knows Berlin. I am coming with a friend just for the concert, afterwards we will have to wait for the train to Poland until almost 6am. Do you know of any reasonably safe place where we can sit down and wait these hours?

Or any reasonably nice place near the HBF station (is there any waiting room?) where we can just sit out these few hours? Any help will be appreciate!

Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: WalterBill ()
Date: July 31, 2022 22:02

Schwarzes Cafe ... it`s near train station "zoo" (U2 from Olympia-stadium to "zoo")
[www.schwarzescafe-berlin.de]

It`s open 24h and I was there after Nick Cave concert at Waldbühne this year

Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: July 31, 2022 22:13

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only two days between Stockholm and Berlin… will this have any effects?

Maybe a 16 or 17 song setlist for Berlin?

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Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: Stonesfan2146 ()
Date: July 31, 2022 22:38

At least 18. Stockholm 19 today. This is not Miami 5000 people venue, this is the Waldbühne 22,000 capacity

Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: July 31, 2022 22:57

It was in reference to only two days between Stockholm and Berlin, and not to any specific venue or capacity.
Every other show this summer has had at least three days in between, so cutting it to two days at this point might be testing their limits.
Hoping for at least 18 songs, but could possibly be less (hope not)- best case scenario it will be a full 19 songs.

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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......

Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: July 31, 2022 23:25

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Question: are we supposed to simply write our names on the tickets?

Simply write your name on the ticket - it does no harm.

If you have an €9-Ticket for public transport, you have to write your name on the ticket - otherwise it's invalid and there were ticket-controllers who cross-checked the stated name with the ID-Card.

Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: KeVvV2011 ()
Date: July 31, 2022 23:52

Thanks so much Irix!

@Hairball: I'd be surprised if having one day less between the shows will do harm, especially with this being the last of the tour - no need to conserve energy for anything after Wednesday night!

Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: July 31, 2022 23:57

Fingers crossed and hoping for the very best KeVvV2011 - thumbs up - could be the last time....

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Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: eismann ()
Date: August 1, 2022 00:47

Be careful with schwarzes cafe, i wanted to stay there after the Weissensee show 1990, and had to learn that it had to close for cleaning up that very night...

the greatest rock and roll band in the world - definitely

Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: Stonesfan2146 ()
Date: August 1, 2022 00:59

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It was in reference to only two days between Stockholm and Berlin, and not to any specific venue or capacity.
Every other show this summer has had at least three days in between, so cutting it to two days at this point might be testing their limits.
Hoping for at least 18 songs, but could possibly be less (hope not)- best case scenario it will be a full 19 songs.

That's true, but you can see them doing this with some tours in the past years, check out for example Europe 2014, they usually did 2 days breaks during that tour, but the break between the last two shows was only one day (also the last time they did two shows in 3 days).

But you are right, last year we all got a little dissapointed set-list wise with the last show. I expected 18 but certainly not 17 - the least they have done in a public show (excluding their surprise gigs) since their comeback 1989, even the club gigs 2003 had more songs (usually 18). As I will be there too, I'm hoping this will be a setlist to remember, but oh well, I know the performance will be fantastic anyways winking smiley

Still remember Berlin 2014, my first show ever, with Waiting On A Friend, and now back in the Waldbühne for show #20 haha

Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: August 1, 2022 03:57

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It was in reference to only two days between Stockholm and Berlin, and not to any specific venue or capacity.
Every other show this summer has had at least three days in between, so cutting it to two days at this point might be testing their limits.
Hoping for at least 18 songs, but could possibly be less (hope not)- best case scenario it will be a full 19 songs.

That's true, but you can see them doing this with some tours in the past years, check out for example Europe 2014, they usually did 2 days breaks during that tour, but the break between the last two shows was only one day (also the last time they did two shows in 3 days).

But you are right, last year we all got a little dissapointed set-list wise with the last show. I expected 18 but certainly not 17 - the least they have done in a public show (excluding their surprise gigs) since their comeback 1989, even the club gigs 2003 had more songs (usually 18). As I will be there too, I'm hoping this will be a setlist to remember, but oh well, I know the performance will be fantastic anyways winking smiley

Still remember Berlin 2014, my first show ever, with Waiting On A Friend, and now back in the Waldbühne for show #20 haha

It wasn't only the shortened setlist, but the lack of any rarities or real surprises.
I know quite a few people that attended who were disappointed and felt almost personally insulted after paying such a hefty price for the privilege of attending that "grand finale" show.
What could have been one for the ages, turned out to be an unsatisfactory/unmemorable experience for many. In contrast, the club/theater shows from 2002/2003 were all unique and memorable.
I was lucky to attend a few of those small shows, and realize it's impossible to turn back the clock, but it could have taken just a little extra effort to make that Hard Rock show the icing on the cake of the 2021 shows.
Instead, it was quite anticlimactic (to put it mildly), and as Dean Goodman stated: "It's the sinking feeling that sets in after about five songs when you realize the Stones just don't care. They couldn't be bothered working up any rarities ...It was just another night, with a skimpy set list of 17 songs delivered". Full review -> Hollywood FL

Hopefully this upcoming show at Waldbühne doesn't suffer from the same problems as the Hard Rock did, and doubt it will - I have a good feeling they really want to end this run of shows on a very high note.
With a capcity of apprx. 22,000 it's similar to the size of the Hollywood Bowl, and also built similarly in to a hillside. I saw two Stones shows at the H.Bowl in 2005, and they rank amongst some of the best shows I've seen.
I imagine the fine atmosphere of the venue will play a big part in what will hopefully result in a show for the ages, and when all is said and done it could be the last time...hopefully not, but..........

Whatever the case, have a great time Stonesfan2146 - it will be memorable one way or another, and possibly on many levels... thumbs up

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Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: schwonek ()
Date: August 1, 2022 11:32

So - what kind of poster can we expect? Maybe something related to the Waldbühne this time? A tongue sticking out of the Waldbühne?



Last posters I found:






Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: August 1, 2022 11:45

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Do you know of any reasonably safe place where we can sit down and wait these hours?

McDonalds in the train-station Alexanderplatz is open 24/7 - [www.McDonalds.com] . Same with McDonalds in the train-station Ostkreuz (Sonntagstraße 37) - open 24hrs (except Mondays) and it has more seats.

Schwarzes Cafe (Kantstraße 148, near Zoo-Station) is only open 8:00am-3:00am - [www.SchwarzesCafe-Berlin.de] .

Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: bertrichards ()
Date: August 1, 2022 11:47

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So - what kind of poster can we expect?
Here you are: [therollingstonesshop.co.uk]

Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: slewan ()
Date: August 1, 2022 11:49

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So - what kind of poster can we expect?
Here you are: [therollingstonesshop.co.uk]

very bad design!

(so I will have been to 7 shows this tour without buying a single poster or T-Shirt)



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Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: August 1, 2022 11:50

Official Berlin T-Shirt & Poster:


[TheRollingStonesShop.co.uk]

Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: bertrichards ()
Date: August 1, 2022 11:52

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So - what kind of poster can we expect?
Here you are: [therollingstonesshop.co.uk]

very bad design!

(so I will have been to 7 shows this tour without buying a single poster or T-Shirt)
I'd say the worst of all. I really liked Madrid, Munich, Liverpool, Paris and Gelsenkirchen.

Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: slewan ()
Date: August 1, 2022 11:54

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So - what kind of poster can we expect?
Here you are: [therollingstonesshop.co.uk]

very bad design!

(so I will have been to 7 shows this tour without buying a single poster or T-Shirt)
I'd say the worst of all. I really liked Madrid, Munich, Liverpool, Paris and Gelsenkirchen.

comparing Berlin 2022 to Berlin 2018 clearly shows the decline in design concepts

Paris and Madrid were good ones. Munich, Liverpool and Gelsenkirchen – very simple ideas, nothing like in 2017/18



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Re: Berlin Germany 2022 - Stones travel and show info
Posted by: Nikkei ()
Date: August 1, 2022 12:03

Good thing I already have a Waldbühne shirt

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