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I guess I'm a bit baffled here by many of the live releases held in such high regard around these parts, but again, it all comes down to a matter of personal taste. I don't think Ya-Ya's deserves the high praise that it does, and most certainly I don't think Love You Live even needs to be listened to more than a couple of times. I can't usually stand to get thru it, due to the poor sound of it all. I'm going to have to dig it out again, because for the life of me I don't know why anyone would be ecstatic about this one....Baffled.

I was thinking that too, to dig it out and see if my mind changes about the non-El Mocambo sides. I thought it was a letdown in '77 when I bought it, and only liked Side 3. As for Ya-Yas, it's my second favorite live album of all time, right behind Band of Gypsys, and right ahead of the Allman Brothers at the Fillmore East.

OMG I couldn't disagree more.....EL Mocambo is like a personal and intimate love letter from the greatest Rn R band in the world to their fans....how can you not feel like you are instantly transported into the smallest club witnessing the most intimate show....powerful....alive.....dripping with energy...you feel lucky to be there. I want more of that magic. Bring it!

That's how I feel about the Stripped performances.

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UnderCover as a track had too much of a YES "owner of a lonely heart" vibe but it made sense for the remix in a club if you had to be played next to New Order "Blue Monday".

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It's interesting to read people who came to the Stones late in the party. They don't hear what long time fans hear. Which is fine. Except for the radio singles in the 60s, I wasn't aware of the group's album cuts until later. Personally I consider the group as a meaningful studio creature to have ended with Steel Wheels. Everything after was below their previous output. But come on, that was almost thirty years. Bill took one of the three legs of the rhythm stool with him.

I can't imagine my Stones listening to have begun with Voodoo Lounge. It would be like catching onto Duke Ellington in the 50s, unaware of his 20s, 30s, and 40s masterpieces. In fact the Stones and Ellington are very similar. A golden era, followed by years of touring the hits around the world.

Actually, I knew a lot of the Stones singles from the Oldies channel growing up and just didn't know that they were theirs. To give a quick summation of my intro, which has been done in other threads over the years:

I came into them in '89 at 13. Mixed Emotions single and video was the first I'd seen of them on MTV. Same year The London Years came out, and I got that for xmas. But I was allowed to keep it in my bedroom unopened until closer to xmas. Was with my mom when she bought it, so I was able to read and study the song selections on the back, and then I'd hear other songs on the radio - Monkey Man comes to mind and realized that that one wasn't on there and I couldn't figure out why, as I had thought that that box was a definitive collection of all their singles. I had just gotten into my own music in '87 while in 6th grade, and it all started out with Whitesnake's Here I Go Again. That was the first cassette I ever bought. Soon after I got into AC/DC and all sorts of other music on the radio stations then. A lot of Hair Metal. Mostly hair metal actually - Kiss, Metallica, Ozzy would all come much much later. Flashpoint came, and I thought it was great. Long long wait til VL came out and to me, it blew AWAY SW, hands down. As a teenager of 18 with barely manageable hormones, it resonated in a way that not even the AC/DC stuff could. Between SW and VL, I picked up a cassette of IORR cheap, and figured I'd love it too, but alas I was greatly disappointed - so much so that I would later on sell the tape in a secondhand shop.

At this point, The Beatles were still my favorite band, and would remain so until I saw the boys live for the first time in '97 when they completely blew me away. Looking back, over half of that setlist I didn't know at the time, but it caused me to go back and dive into the back catalog more. The first CD I got was SF, because much of the unknown songs from that first concert seemed to be on there. I loved it!!! Still do. Actually, to me, if I were to introduce someone to ONE Stones record, it would be Sticky Fingers. To me, it is THE quintessential Stones album. Has it all - blues, rock, country, ballads, lyrics, controversy, a gritty dirtiness and that star on the guitar. The album is everything that makes the Rolling Stones THE Rolling Stones. Then I picked up some others - Let It Bleed, Flowers, Some Girls. Loved them all. From there, I don't remember, but I kept going until I had all of em.

To this day several of my favorite songs from the 60's are deep album cuts that would only be known to the true fans: Back Street Girl, Blue Turns To Grey, Flight 505, Fortune Teller, My Obsession, Out Of Time, Poison Ivy, Jiving Sister Fanny, Sittin On A Fence, Take It Or Leave It, Ride On Baby, Yesterday's Papers. It's true that my first introduction into the band of their early stuff was thru the singles on The London Years, so then I really went backwards thru the albums. Flowers to this day remains one of my favorites of theirs, and it was a little while before I realized that that wasn't an album, but a compilation. It just has so many great songs that I love.

It took me a long time to get into EOMS. I just couldn't understand what all the fuss was about. It sounded murky and ya can't understand wtf Mick's saying half the time, but in time, I grew to appreciate it for the great album that it is. I just happen to think that they have a couple albums better is all. Nothing wrong with that. My top 3 would be Voodoo, Sticky, Goats. Anything thereafter is subject to change on any given day.

I don't get the love that ER and U get, as those two are throwaways for me really - couple decent tracks on each, but that's about it, and I'm glad we didn't get anything more in those veins. DW is a much, much better album than it gets credit for, and over time, I've come to look less favorably on SG - at least I don't listen to it as much as I once did. I think I prefer the funk of B&B to it, really.

We each have our own personal tastes and that's what makes the world go round. To each their own. I prefer the US Aftermath. Doesn't make me a bad person. Just a different appreciation. Together we all love the same thing.

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knowing the pressure Keith was on, he deserves all the respect that he has received for being a musician rocking for the music.

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Love You Live is a Stones live classic. All 4 sides.

Sides 1, 2 & 4..... capture the Stones in their mid-70s pomp with a band inc Billy n Olly, to produce their dirrtiest n heaviest sound.

From the first chord of Honky Tonk, to If You Cant Rock Me, Hot Stuff, Star Star, Dice, Fingerprint (amazing live), to IORR, amongst many others, and closing with the last time they did Sympathy with a true loose swagger n swing...its classic 70s rock n'roll !!

Side 3.... El Mocambo, its all been said very eloquently already....it is obviously completely different to the other sides, but with the same line up, showing their incredible talent and versatility to produce some of the finest recorded live tracks The Stones put on vinyl.

An El Mocambo full gig would be amazing, so a BIG YES PLEASE from me

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It's interesting to read people who came to the Stones late in the party. They don't hear what long time fans hear. Which is fine. Except for the radio singles in the 60s, I wasn't aware of the group's album cuts until later. Personally I consider the group as a meaningful studio creature to have ended with Steel Wheels. Everything after was below their previous output. But come on, that was almost thirty years. Bill took one of the three legs of the rhythm stool with him.

I can't imagine my Stones listening to have begun with Voodoo Lounge. It would be like catching onto Duke Ellington in the 50s, unaware of his 20s, 30s, and 40s masterpieces. In fact the Stones and Ellington are very similar. A golden era, followed by years of touring the hits around the world.

Actually, I knew a lot of the Stones singles from the Oldies channel growing up and just didn't know that they were theirs. To give a quick summation of my intro, which has been done in other threads over the years:

I came into them in '89 at 13. Mixed Emotions single and video was the first I'd seen of them on MTV. Same year The London Years came out, and I got that for xmas. But I was allowed to keep it in my bedroom unopened until closer to xmas. Was with my mom when she bought it, so I was able to read and study the song selections on the back, and then I'd hear other songs on the radio - Monkey Man comes to mind and realized that that one wasn't on there and I couldn't figure out why, as I had thought that that box was a definitive collection of all their singles. I had just gotten into my own music in '87 while in 6th grade, and it all started out with Whitesnake's Here I Go Again. That was the first cassette I ever bought. Soon after I got into AC/DC and all sorts of other music on the radio stations then. A lot of Hair Metal. Mostly hair metal actually - Kiss, Metallica, Ozzy would all come much much later. Flashpoint came, and I thought it was great. Long long wait til VL came out and to me, it blew AWAY SW, hands down. As a teenager of 18 with barely manageable hormones, it resonated in a way that not even the AC/DC stuff could. Between SW and VL, I picked up a cassette of IORR cheap, and figured I'd love it too, but alas I was greatly disappointed - so much so that I would later on sell the tape in a secondhand shop.

At this point, The Beatles were still my favorite band, and would remain so until I saw the boys live for the first time in '97 when they completely blew me away. Looking back, over half of that setlist I didn't know at the time, but it caused me to go back and dive into the back catalog more. The first CD I got was SF, because much of the unknown songs from that first concert seemed to be on there. I loved it!!! Still do. Actually, to me, if I were to introduce someone to ONE Stones record, it would be Sticky Fingers. To me, it is THE quintessential Stones album. Has it all - blues, rock, country, ballads, lyrics, controversy, a gritty dirtiness and that star on the guitar. The album is everything that makes the Rolling Stones THE Rolling Stones. Then I picked up some others - Let It Bleed, Flowers, Some Girls. Loved them all. From there, I don't remember, but I kept going until I had all of em.

To this day several of my favorite songs from the 60's are deep album cuts that would only be known to the true fans: Back Street Girl, Blue Turns To Grey, Flight 505, Fortune Teller, My Obsession, Out Of Time, Poison Ivy, Jiving Sister Fanny, Sittin On A Fence, Take It Or Leave It, Ride On Baby, Yesterday's Papers. It's true that my first introduction into the band of their early stuff was thru the singles on The London Years, so then I really went backwards thru the albums. Flowers to this day remains one of my favorites of theirs, and it was a little while before I realized that that wasn't an album, but a compilation. It just has so many great songs that I love.

It took me a long time to get into EOMS. I just couldn't understand what all the fuss was about. It sounded murky and ya can't understand wtf Mick's saying half the time, but in time, I grew to appreciate it for the great album that it is. I just happen to think that they have a couple albums better is all. Nothing wrong with that. My top 3 would be Voodoo, Sticky, Goats. Anything thereafter is subject to change on any given day.

I don't get the love that ER and U get, as those two are throwaways for me really - couple decent tracks on each, but that's about it, and I'm glad we didn't get anything more in those veins. DW is a much, much better album than it gets credit for, and over time, I've come to look less favorably on SG - at least I don't listen to it as much as I once did. I think I prefer the funk of B&B to it, really.

We each have our own personal tastes and that's what makes the world go round. To each their own. I prefer the US Aftermath. Doesn't make me a bad person. Just a different appreciation. Together we all love the same thing.

seriously with your opinions on there music your like a unicorn

you might have one of the single most radical non conforming views on there music of anyone on here

and to touch back on ronnie for a sec

if you haven't heard slide on this live go listen to ronnie's version of pretty beat up

one of my favorites from any solo stones performance

as for me i really found the stones about 17 years after you i was 16 and it was my mom's very worn childhood mono copies of flowers and between the buttons that hooked me

recorded them to cassette and took them to school to listen to while i worked

and then i bought my first stones album a bigger bang and loved it and still do

probably not in the majority on that one either

and as for what i don't like well...

not much i just love all there music i'm easy

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The Vault releases have been nice to have, but many of them I really don't listen to all that much, for some reason. Perhaps I need to go back and give them all another whirl.

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I think being in a small club is what helps El Mocambo. I'm not a fan of latter day live Stones recordings, but the compression of playing Sticky Fingers at the small Echo Plex in L.A. gave it a jolt the big stadium sound doesn't have. The essence of the Stones is the ultimate bar band in a packed, throbbing club.

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Ok, in my opinion we are going a bit off topic, we discuss something else when the real question is whether the source is reliable, what matters is whether El Mocambo will have an official version or not, then we can unleash discussions , we have news if whoever posted the news is reliable ?

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I think being in a small club is what helps El Mocambo. I'm not a fan of latter day live Stones recordings, but the compression of playing Sticky Fingers at the small Echo Plex in L.A. gave it a jolt the big stadium sound doesn't have. The essence of the Stones is the ultimate bar band in a packed, throbbing club.

actually it was the fonda theatre in 2015

echoplex was in 2013

but i get what you mean

wish they had done that with tattoo you last year

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I didn't want to make the joke but since you posted some pics...
Ok let's go :

I hope Keith will be airbrushed from the artwork cos in 77 he looked like a walking corpse. A casual punter might be repelled by the sight of the legendary guiartist in his "March'77" (dis)incarnation.

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The Vault releases have been nice to have, but many of them I really don't listen to all that much, for some reason. Perhaps I need to go back and give them all another whirl.

As with most artists, I feel like they all missed the boat on it. And I get why, things got easier to release in the last 10 years or so, but these would have made the most impact in the 90s or early 2000s. I think once everyone started doing it it flooded the market and then a lot of people never really listened to any of them. Just too much other stuff out there. I feel this was the same with the Stones, Springsteen, etc. They missed the true moment where they were concerts people would cherish and now just seem like doubling back to get it out but I've only heard most once or twice even though they are fantastic. It just doesn't print on my mind like stuff did when I was younger.

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Ok, in my opinion we are going a bit off topic, we discuss something else when the real question is whether the source is reliable, what matters is whether El Mocambo will have an official version or not, then we can unleash discussions , we have news if whoever posted the news is reliable ?