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Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by: BOBM ()
Date: March 31, 2022 14:05

Does anyone know the date of each track on the release yet? March 4 or March 5?
Also, any thoughts on why Happy is the only song performed that is not on the release?

"make up your mind, 'cause I gotta go"

Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Date: March 31, 2022 14:15

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BOBM
Does anyone know the date of each track on the release yet? March 4 or March 5?
Also, any thoughts on why Happy is the only song performed that is not on the release?

Happy was only performed on the 4th. Allegedly, all but the last three tracks are from the 5th.

Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by: z ()
Date: March 31, 2022 14:23

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Did Keith played the Musicman Silhouette already in 1977 (first picture on this page)?

I think that's a Gibson S-1

The first Silhouettes were made in the mid 80's.

Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: March 31, 2022 14:28

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BOBM
Does anyone know the date of each track on the release yet? March 4 or March 5?
Also, any thoughts on why Happy is the only song performed that is not on the release?

Happy was only performed on the 4th. Allegedly, all but the last three tracks are from the 5th.

I wonder if Keith sings "Worried Life Blues". No more "Happy"....

- Doxa

Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Date: March 31, 2022 14:37

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BOBM
Does anyone know the date of each track on the release yet? March 4 or March 5?
Also, any thoughts on why Happy is the only song performed that is not on the release?

Happy was only performed on the 4th. Allegedly, all but the last three tracks are from the 5th.

I wonder if Keith sings "Worried Life Blues". No more "Happy"....

- Doxa

I don't remember who it was that told me (Nico? Gazza?), but it looks like it is Mick singing it.

Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Date: March 31, 2022 15:20

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I wonder if these boogies are collector's items or still in use a lot. Any guitarists over here?
I know a guy that I grew up with that has a Boogie MK 1 and still uses it to this day . This is a great amp .


Yes The Greek, I know they sound great. My former guitar teacher bought a prototype of the MK1 from his then teacher in Berkley: Larry Carlton. The Amp doesn't even have a serial number. He still owns the amp like a holy grail.

I myself bought a full option MKIII with an EV 12" speaker in 1986. Definitely more aggressive than the MKI but still a very good Amp. Too heavy to take it out to play by now. My back.confused smiley



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Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: March 31, 2022 15:56

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Also, any thoughts on why Happy is the only song performed that is not on the release?

Cos it wasn't performed at all during these two nights? (source : Nico's site).
I speculate WLB is co-sung by Keith and Ron (as it was to be in 79).

Maybe it was sung during the 5/3 gig as a make-up for the lack of "Happy"? Myabe they did WLB as a musical testament for what could have been the last gig before a looong (jail) time?

The song held a special place in Keith's heart as he did it again a few days later during his solo piano "Toronto sessions".



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Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by: blackadder ()
Date: March 31, 2022 18:40

I don't know if i'm correct but Little Red Rooster from LYL was from March 4? So Little Red Rooster on this release will be a different version then?

Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by: Testify ()
Date: March 31, 2022 19:16

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Bill in the last years of his militancy in the Stones, was often absent and disinterested, so much so that very often he was replaced by Ronnie or Keith. So it wasn't Bill waiting for Keith outside the bathroom, but the other Stones waiting for Bill.

I don't know where you get that impression. Most accounts of studio time with the Stones have Bill and Charlie arriving first, and then waiting. And waiting. The only time they had to kowtow to Bill was when he told them he was leaving. He's not on two or three throw away songs on Steel Wheels, probably because he was getting married. But excepting Continental Drift, he's on all the songs that matter. Bill always made the best songs better.

Harlem Shuffle is the best thing on Dirty Work, and it's a great Bill song. Ronnie had one good bass part playing bass for the Stones, Emotional Rescue.

And he's great on El Mocambo. His playing often brings a sense of humor to songs. Try doing that with a bass.

The tracks without Wyman were done when he was off dealing with his future marital disaster's health issues.
Bill has been missing on many songs even on Emotional Rescue and also on many songs from 70s albums.
However, I'm not accusing Bill of anything, I'm just saying he wasn't the saint that many paint. Bill is the only Stones who has often been assende, there must be a reason! Charlie has always been on all tracks except IORR which was recorded at Ronnie's house and Charlie wasn't there, like no other Stones but Mick.

No one said he was a saint. But he was a professional. Never missed a gig with the Stones. Never endangered the group by his arrests. (Pissing on a service station wall didn't stop anything). How about 'Heaven', where it's only him, and the two Micks? Or 'Moonlight Mile' where Keith doesn't participate? Except for maybe 'SFTD', I can't think of a Stones song Bill might have not been able to play on as good, or better. And no Charlie wasn't on all tracks. Ever heard of You Can't Always Good What You Want? Jimmy Miller. 'I Just Want To See His Face'. 'Shine A Light' - Jimmy Miller. 'Happy' - Jimmy Miller.
Four songs in almost 60 years of the Rolling Stones? Bravo Charlie!
These are the songs in which Bill doesn't play his bass, but there will be others too, these are the ones that come to mind:
Sympaty for ...
Live with Me
Tumbling Dice
Torn and Frayed
I Just Want to See His Face
Stop Breaking Down
Shine a Light
Casino Boogie
Soul Survivor
100 Years Ago
Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)
Silver Train
IORR
Memory Motel
Shattered
Some Girls
Before They Make Me Run
Emotional Rescue
All About You
Dance
Summer Romance
Where the Boys Go
Tie You Up
Wanna Hold You
Pretty Beat Up
Winning Ugly
Sad Sad Sad
Hold On to Your Hat
Break the Spell
highwire.

Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by: Honestman ()
Date: March 31, 2022 20:11










credits : Ken Regan

HMN

Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by: Honestman ()
Date: March 31, 2022 20:17



That one wasn't on the right side winking smiley

HMN

Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by: ryanpow ()
Date: March 31, 2022 20:30

Is there anyone fukcin' cooler than the Stones? I don't think so.



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Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by: NashvilleBlues ()
Date: March 31, 2022 21:03

How much would those tickets go for on the resale market if they were to play there these days? eye popping smiley

Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by: maumau ()
Date: March 31, 2022 21:18

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Is there anyone fukcin' cooler than the Stones? I don't think so.

thumbs up those pics exude coolness

Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by: Cristiano Radtke ()
Date: March 31, 2022 22:01

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How much would those tickets go for on the resale market if they were to play there these days? eye popping smiley

Thousands!

Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: March 31, 2022 22:18

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Is there anyone fukcin' cooler than the Stones? I don't think so.

thumbs up those pics exude coolness

Some of those pics (as well as others that have been posted throughout the thread) could have made a far better cover for this album than what they came up with.

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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......

Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by: NilsHolgersson ()
Date: March 31, 2022 22:22

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That one wasn't on the right side winking smiley

Look at those people actually enjoying the show instead of filming it with their smartphones

Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by: NashvilleBlues ()
Date: March 31, 2022 22:29

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That one wasn't on the right side winking smiley

Look at those people actually enjoying the show instead of filming it with their smartphones

Bob Dylan at The Ryman had a strict no-cell phone use policy. I loved it. Seeing Jack White April 30. He also has a similar policy.

It can be done, and I hope more artists start doing it, at least for the bands I like. The artists that have crowds mainly composed of those in their 20's and younger can keep letting their fans bring and use cell phones. Hell, if they had a no cell phone policy, they'd lose their minds because many of them don't know how to function without them. Pretty sad.

Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by: drwatts ()
Date: April 1, 2022 00:17

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Wow, i dont think ive ever seen Charlie use a black dot drum head on the snare before.
Or wear blue jeans!

Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: April 1, 2022 01:18

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Four songs in almost 60 years of the Rolling Stones? Bravo Charlie!
These are the songs in which Bill doesn't play his bass, but there will be others too, these are the ones that come to mind:

Sympaty for ...(Bill plays maracas)
Live with Me (Bill's live version is the best).
Tumbling Dice (Played like Bill)
Torn and Frayed
I Just Want to See His Face
Stop Breaking Down (no credit given for bass)
Shine a Light
Casino Boogie
Soul Survivor
100 Years Ago
Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)
Silver Train
IORR
Memory Motel (Bill DOES play bass per album credit)
Shattered
Some Girls
Before They Make Me Run
Emotional Rescue
All About You
Dance
Summer Romance
Where the Boys Go
Tie You Up
Wanna Hold You
Pretty Beat Up
Winning Ugly
Sad Sad Sad
Hold On to Your Hat
Break the Spell
highwire.

My italics above. What's your point? Except for a couple exceptions, those are minor album cuts in the Stones pantheon. Only a couple were singles. Would you like a list of their singles he DID play bass on? How about the lead off song on Exile? On Some Girls? How about every concert they played since he joined until he stepped away? And think how much better the above songs might have been with Bill on them.

Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by: SomeTorontoGirl ()
Date: April 1, 2022 01:55

Stones ElMo tee for sale at Unzipped … courtesy PalaisRoyale



Edit: not for sale, display only…





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Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by: SomeTorontoGirl ()
Date: April 1, 2022 01:58

Toronto Life article about the ElMo renovation. If there are problems opening it, let me know and I’ll do screen grabs. Again, courtesy PalaisRoyale.


[torontolife.com]


Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: April 1, 2022 02:15

Thank you for the link

Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: April 1, 2022 03:16

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I don't remember who it was that told me (Nico? Gazza?), but it looks like it is Mick singing it.

Nico posted that he'd been told that. Seems odd that they'd play a full length show with Keith not singing lead on any songs. I know its happened occasionally since the practice started in 1972, but very rarely.


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I don't know if i'm correct but Little Red Rooster from LYL was from March 4? So Little Red Rooster on this release will be a different version then?

I dont think its ever been confirmed where each of the 4 LYL songs are from. Its been assumed theyre from the second night. As I mentioned earlier, the intros are certainly from March 5th as Mick references 'the bottom pincher from last night'. The bootleg seems to be from both nights as 'Worried about you' is on it.

Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: April 1, 2022 05:46

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Four songs in almost 60 years of the Rolling Stones? Bravo Charlie!
These are the songs in which Bill doesn't play his bass, but there will be others too, these are the ones that come to mind:

Sympaty for ...(Bill plays maracas)
Live with Me (Bill's live version is the best).
Tumbling Dice (Played like Bill)
Torn and Frayed
I Just Want to See His Face
Stop Breaking Down (no credit given for bass)
Shine a Light
Casino Boogie
Soul Survivor
100 Years Ago
Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)
Silver Train
IORR
Memory Motel (Bill DOES play bass per album credit)
Shattered
Some Girls
Before They Make Me Run
Emotional Rescue
All About You
Dance
Summer Romance
Where the Boys Go
Tie You Up
Wanna Hold You
Pretty Beat Up
Winning Ugly
Sad Sad Sad
Hold On to Your Hat
Break the Spell
highwire.

My italics above. What's your point? Except for a couple exceptions, those are minor album cuts in the Stones pantheon. Only a couple were singles. Would you like a list of their singles he DID play bass on? How about the lead off song on Exile? On Some Girls? How about every concert they played since he joined until he stepped away? And think how much better the above songs might have been with Bill on them.

How about the songs Keith didn't play guitar on? Or Charlie played on? Or Mick didn't sing on?

Interesting, sure, but not anything determining a career.

Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: April 1, 2022 09:04

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I don't remember who it was that told me (Nico? Gazza?), but it looks like it is Mick singing it.

Nico posted that he'd been told that. Seems odd that they'd play a full length show with Keith not singing lead on any songs. I know its happened occasionally since the practice started in 1972, but very rarely.


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I don't know if i'm correct but Little Red Rooster from LYL was from March 4? So Little Red Rooster on this release will be a different version then?

I dont think its ever been confirmed where each of the 4 LYL songs are from. Its been assumed theyre from the second night. As I mentioned earlier, the intros are certainly from March 5th as Mick references 'the bottom pincher from last night'. The bootleg seems to be from both nights as 'Worried about you' is on it.

I understood that a listener has confirmed the band intro and LLR to be from March 4, the rest from March 5. But that bottom pincher remark does not seem to fit that date.

Mathijs

Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by: z ()
Date: April 1, 2022 12:18

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I don't remember who it was that told me (Nico? Gazza?), but it looks like it is Mick singing it.

Nico posted that he'd been told that. Seems odd that they'd play a full length show with Keith not singing lead on any songs. I know its happened occasionally since the practice started in 1972, but very rarely.


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blackadder
I don't know if i'm correct but Little Red Rooster from LYL was from March 4? So Little Red Rooster on this release will be a different version then?

I dont think its ever been confirmed where each of the 4 LYL songs are from. Its been assumed theyre from the second night. As I mentioned earlier, the intros are certainly from March 5th as Mick references 'the bottom pincher from last night'. The bootleg seems to be from both nights as 'Worried about you' is on it.

I understood that a listener has confirmed the band intro and LLR to be from March 4, the rest from March 5. But that bottom pincher remark does not seem to fit that date.

Mathijs

The bottom pincher remark isn't part of the band intro, it comes between Mannish Boy and Crackin' Up.

Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by: Taylor1 ()
Date: April 1, 2022 12:31

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Four songs in almost 60 years of the Rolling Stones? Bravo Charlie!
These are the songs in which Bill doesn't play his bass, but there will be others too, these are the ones that come to mind:

Sympaty for ...(Bill plays maracas)
Live with Me (Bill's live version is the best).
Tumbling Dice (Played like Bill)
Torn and Frayed
I Just Want to See His Face
Stop Breaking Down (no credit given for bass)
Shine a Light
Casino Boogie
Soul Survivor
100 Years Ago
Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)
Silver Train
IORR
Memory Motel (Bill DOES play bass per album credit)
Shattered
Some Girls
Before They Make Me Run
Emotional Rescue
All About You
Dance
Summer Romance
Where the Boys Go
Tie You Up
Wanna Hold You
Pretty Beat Up
Winning Ugly
Sad Sad Sad
Hold On to Your Hat
Break the Spell
highwire.

My italics above. What's your point? Except for a couple exceptions, those are minor album cuts in the Stones pantheon. Only a couple were singles. Would you like a list of their singles he DID play bass on? How about the lead off song on Exile? On Some Girls? How about every concert they played since he joined until he stepped away? And think how much better the above songs might have been with Bill on them.

How about the songs Keith didn't play guitar on? Or Charlie played on? Or Mick didn't sing on?

Interesting, sure, but not anything determining a career.
There are at least 9 songs Keith doesn’t play guitar on

Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Date: April 1, 2022 12:41

<Live with Me (Bill's live version is the best)>

Maybe because they're both playing Keith's bass line on Ya-Yas?

Hence "Bill's live version" is a stretch smiling smiley

Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: April 1, 2022 13:09

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Is there anyone fukcin' cooler than the Stones? I don't think so.

May I answer that? No. There is not. And I thank Honestman for the new(er) pics. God almighty. That Boogie. Those sounds. The very ragged Jagger. Ronnie in top form. Keith on his eleventh hour. Billie and of course the amazing duo: Charlie and Ollie that defined 1975-1977. Bill on top of his game as always. This is the holy grail. Now if only a soundboard from -66.

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