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terraplane
Captured on film? That would be worth watching.
My point isn't about whether Brian was fairly treated or not but more how it looks in the 1+1 footage.
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Their reported ill treatment of Brian Jones is something they would probably rather forget though.
Poor, poor Brian. As if he did nothing to warrant enmity from the band. He eventually pissed off every one of them with his behavior. He was probably bipolar, but no one knew what the hell that was back then. Or that gobbling down handfuls of drugs from strangers might not be a good thing. And what were they? In their mid-20s? Spoiled rock stars, insulated from the real world. I think it caught up to them when they were older. They seemed more reflective, and forgiving about Brian.
True but all people will see is what the footage of 1 + 1 shows them. I haven't seen it for a long time but I recall it was Brian isolated from the rest of the group, stuck in a booth by himself with his guitar not even audible.
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Bill's never been bothered beyond the occasional feeling of slight annoyance.
He doesn't seem to have any ego where his musical contribution is concerned .
One less job to do...more time for chasing skirt
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Bill's never been bothered beyond the occasional feeling of slight annoyance.
He doesn't seem to have any ego where his musical contribution is concerned .
One less job to do...more time for chasing skirt
Not quite so. In his book STONE ALONE Bill makes it pretty clear that he lost his interest to contribute creatively more to their records during the BEGGARS BANQUET sessions, and took more like a back seat role - or accepted it - after that (did what he was told, and put his own creative ideas into somewhere else). From BEGGARS BANQUET on, The Stones were a pure Jagger/Richards show - of course, that was just a natural ending point of the process having started a few years earlier, but, at least according to Bill, the band was much more a democratic unit creatively in terms of sharing and offering ideas earlier, despite the songs being Jagger/Richards originals/credited to them.
It could be that Bill had some disillusional expectations after getting his "In Another Land" to SATANIC MAJESTIES (who knows if he had some kind of George Harrison role in mind). He claims that Mick had promised that that his songs will be used for the upcoming album as well, but when the BEGGARS BANQUET sessions started Mick and Keith weren't even interested hearing his songs ("Downtown Suzie" seems to be an exception later). And then we have the riff of "Jumpin' Jack Flash" case, seemingly another reason for Bill feeling bitter... like if one offers something interesting, Mick and Keith will just rob it, so better not to offer anything...
Let me remind that I am just here paraphrasing Bill's own view of things (with a bit of speculation by me), not how the things really went.
- Doxa
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True but all people will see is what the footage of 1 + 1 shows them. I haven't seen it for a long time but I recall it was Brian isolated from the rest of the group, stuck in a booth by himself with his guitar not even audible.