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Topi
Hearing the entrance to the floor was a shitshow. Pushing and shoving, no lining up.
That would not surprise me one bit. I've seen lots of shitshow entrances in my time for the Stones and others. Even a gig with ott expensive tickets isn't spared.
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Hairball
not to mention the short and standard setlist...a weird and disappointing way to end the tour. A shame.
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dnewton99
Nice to meet you too! and yes PIT very challenging to see due to low stage even from the very back was a sea of heads. Seats in this small venue would have been fantastic view and sound. I moved all around in PIT but never found a view that wasn't pretty obstructed. You will see it in vids. Even security was much more in the view due to low stage.Quote
angee
...I did miss being in the pit, but not if I couldn't see, which was likely, given how the process went:
From Donna: "And when doors opened - well you would have had to be there to believe it - but suffice to say it was easy for 200+ people who got there last minute to get ahead of people who were there a while." That would have pissed me off. Nice meeting you, dnewton, btw, ...
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Rockman
All this chitter chatter about pit stampedes .....
Too much sugar ... Stones should push for vegan crowds ....
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Rockman
Yeah if the Stones surrounded the venues
with water & vegan food vans/stalls the stampedes would diminish ...
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dnewton99
Nice to meet you too! and yes PIT very challenging to see due to low stage even from the very back was a sea of heads. Seats in this small venue would have been fantastic view and sound. I moved all around in PIT but never found a view that wasn't pretty obstructed. You will see it in vids. Even security was much more in the view due to low stage.Quote
angee
...I did miss being in the pit, but not if I couldn't see, which was likely, given how the process went:
From Donna: "And when doors opened - well you would have had to be there to believe it - but suffice to say it was easy for 200+ people who got there last minute to get ahead of people who were there a while." That would have pissed me off. Nice meeting you, dnewton, btw, ...
I know what I go through in crowded General Admission concerts establishing and then trying to keep a clear line of sight, at 5'11". I feel for what many females must contend with.
This is going way OT from Hollywood FL last night but it makes me want to share something from last week.
Monday and Tuesday Nov 15 & 16 I was at England's greatest young rock n roll band's two shows in DC.
Wolf Alice's two DC shows really should have been in a venue at least twice as big. Union Stage is in a basement, its 450 capacity was sold out for both shows months ago. The audience space in front of the stage is uneven, there's a pillar maybe 50 ft out from the stage, and the low ceiling gives the crowd's body heat nowhere to go.
The 1st show, Monday's, standing next to me was a dad wearing a bookbag-backpack for coats... with his little 7?, 8 maybe? year-old daughter. I asked him, Does she like Wolf Alice? He said her older sister does more, and was coming. But the little sis heard a song on the new album Blue Weekend that she decided she likes, and then of course she had to go too. He said no way would he have been able to handle both of them there at once, so each are getting a night.
Wonderful little girl, excited but well behaved, very pretty long hair. (The kind of kid, it struck me, that I think I (being ex-law enforcement) would have been constantly fearful some dirtbag would want to snatch.) I thought the dad really should have tried to get him and her all the way to the front so she could see the whole time. That people might have made room for such a little girl and her dad.
I was standing to their immediate right; they were adjacent to a rope line on their left. He picked her up a lot, but she was too heavy to hold up for long spells. I also thought he should put her on his shoulders, or lift her higher piggy-back, and was tempted to suggest he try one of those. But he was daddying big time, protecting his little chickling -- they both stayed masked the whole show -- and it clearly was a major father-daughter bonding night for them. I realized he didn't need to field suggestions from some guy drinking a beer who he didn't know; so kept the suggestions to myself.
We weren't all that far back, though, and frontwoman Ellie Rowsell definitely spotted the girl being raised up multiple times throughout the show.
When the Monday night show ended and the band started leaving the stage, I noticed Ellie exiting on our side, the side opposite from where the guys were going. It seemed unusual but I didn't try to keep visual track of her. Immediately though I was conscious of her darting along the rope line... and then there was movement down and to my left. As I looked down, she's standing up from a crouch and starting back towards the stage.
The little girl's hands were clasped in front of her and her face was all excited. I asked her dad, What'd Ellie just do? "Show him," he said.
She lowered her arms forward and carefully unclenched her hands. Ellie had come out to find her and given the little girl her guitar pick. In spite of her mask you could see the girl's face was all lit up, and how thrilled she was. I gave her a WOW, as big-eyed and best I could from behind my own mask.
That was a great moment. A shame nobody had been fast-reacting enough to get a picture of Ellie crouched down with her.
(I strongly recommend seeing Wolf Alice if you get the chance. Their albums are great and the band is just awesome live.)
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Doxa
Oh shit. I read this whole thread and most of it, even before the bloody concert even started, was full of negativity and whatever kind of bitching (the people who actually were there, including the thrilled press, with their too subjective, positive accounts do not matter, of course, for the true experts behind their laptops). Anyway, thankfully (sarcasm!) the Stones do not perform any longer (ever or for some time) that people now can live happily without being disturbed by their horrible set lists or weak musicianship.
Oh yeah, 'everybody is entitled to their opinion', etc. but I sometimes think that is voicing so called opinion really that important? We have those like we have @#$%&, but you know, sometimes we could actually use more our sense than our @#$%& in judging what really we have to say for a certain audience or not. No cancelling or censorship (yakee!), just a sort of practical understanding of the context and of other people. You know, decent human behavior.
Of course, rocket science for some people (I am pretty naive, I admit).
But come on, people, go on and read this whole thread and judge it for yourself. As people who bother to gather here for a certain, shared reason.
- Doxa
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gavin95
I love this band more and more as each day goes by
My favorite thing is to play along on my guitar to these live shows. We’re so lucky with these great recordings that are shared, all for free
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Stoneage
Are the bongos pre-recorded? I can't see anyone playing them...
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georgelicks
They only played ONE song from the original Tattoo You album during the whole tour, an album released in the middle of the tour, unbelievable from any perspective.
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georgelicks
They only played ONE song from the original Tattoo You album during the whole tour, an album released in the middle of the tour, unbelievable from any perspective.
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Nate
HaHaHa that's a funny photograph Nate
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Nate
HaHaHa that's a funny photograph
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Topi
Hearing the entrance to the floor was a shitshow. Pushing and shoving, no lining up.
That would not surprise me one bit. I've seen lots of shitshow entrances in my time for the Stones and others. Even a gig with ott expensive tickets isn't spared.
Sounds like it was literally a shitshow on many levels as I've been reading more and more from friends (and friends of friends) on social media of a near stampede atmosphere to get to the pit, and once there complete anarchy with security being almost completely non-existent. One lady getting wheeled away after passing out from the crush to never return, several others being violently pushed and shoved repeatedly throughout the show, one guy who was handcuffed and hauled away, and quite a few belligerent drunks who didn't give a crap about anything. Had this been 1978 or 1981 understandable and even expected, but in 2021 sounds a bit over the top with many saying they would have rather had a seat. And then hearing the stories of muffled/terrible sound being in the pit, not to mention the short and standard setlist...a weird and disappointing way to end the tour. A shame.
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caschimann
And as we are all older now we perform, act, behave different as well.
One of the changes is that many people are not in that euphoric, great, relaxed mood like they were as teens, twens, thirty or even forty-somehings.
Getting older with all the consequences makes you angry from time to time.
You see the world clearer and not through rainbow glasses.