Tell Me :  Talk
Talk about your favorite band. 

Previous page Next page First page IORR home

For information about how to use this forum please check out forum help and policies.

Goto Page: Previous1234
Current Page: 4 of 4
Re: Steve Jordan Reinvigorating the Band
Posted by: GeorgV ()
Date: October 14, 2021 08:10

Would be interesting to hear Have You Seen You Mother, Baby....

Re: Steve Jordan Reinvigorating the Band
Posted by: ryanpow ()
Date: October 14, 2021 08:13

Just watched/listened to the St. Luis Show... Can confirm. It also it seems like they are able to channel their emotion into the music which adds to the performance.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2021-10-14 17:04 by ryanpow.

Re: Steve Jordan Reinvigorating the Band
Posted by: wonderboy ()
Date: October 15, 2021 22:13

It's sad this great board has been reduced to approved fan club material like this.

Re: Steve Jordan Reinvigorating the Band
Posted by: jahisnotdead ()
Date: October 16, 2021 00:22

Quote
wonderboy
It's sad this great board has been reduced to approved fan club material like this.

Go on and tell us how bad you think Steve Jordan is, then.

Re: Steve Jordan Reinvigorating the Band
Posted by: Rokyfan ()
Date: October 16, 2021 00:35

Quote
jahisnotdead
Quote
wonderboy
It's sad this great board has been reduced to approved fan club material like this.

Go on and tell us how bad you think Steve Jordan is, then.
.

I don’t think he was referring to Steve Jordan.

Re: Steve Jordan Reinvigorating the Band
Date: October 16, 2021 02:18

I think as Charlie got older he could not keep up with the songs with a faster tempo which is why some songs were done slower.

Steve Jordan on the other hand is younger and can probably still carry a faster beat.

Just my observation but it sure makes good sense to me.

Re: Steve Jordan Reinvigorating the Band
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: October 16, 2021 02:24

Steve Jordan on the other hand is younger

Yeah Steve is not the age of
The Stones and we kinda think of
Steve as young but ya gotta remember he is 64 .....



ROCKMAN

Re: Steve Jordan Reinvigorating the Band
Posted by: Dougratajczak87 ()
Date: October 16, 2021 04:36

Quote
georgemcdonnell314
I think as Charlie got older he could not keep up with the songs with a faster tempo which is why some songs were done slower.

Steve Jordan on the other hand is younger and can probably still carry a faster beat.

Just my observation but it sure makes good sense to me.

I'd agree with this. Seems to me that Charlie and Keith slowed things down quite a bit on the No Filter tour specifically.

It seems with Jordan, he's out in front and at time it seems like the songs are moments away from collapsing as a unit because Ron, Keith, and even Mick (vocally) are struggling to keep pace, not always, but also more than once a show.

Re: Steve Jordan Reinvigorating the Band
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: October 16, 2021 05:04

I'm not sure it's really Steve Jordan per se that's reinvigorated the band, but more due to the fact that Charlie has passed away. Keith, Mick, and Ronnie have taken their sorrow and turned into a giant ball of energy.
That said, I did notice at one point Darryl getting in to a serious hard groove with Steve - focusing and staring at eachother...might have been 19th Nervous Breakdown - they were tight!

_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......

Re: Steve Jordan Reinvigorating the Band
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: October 16, 2021 09:29

Quote
Hairball
I'm not sure it's really Steve Jordan per se that's reinvigorated the band, but more due to the fact that Charlie has passed away. Keith, Mick, and Ronnie have taken their sorrow and turned into a giant ball of energy.
That said, I did notice at one point Darryl getting in to a serious hard groove with Steve - focusing and staring at eachother...might have been 19th Nervous Breakdown - they were tight!

I like Steve's attitude and approach a lot better than Darryl's. Steve knows some of Charlie's drumming is an actual part of the song, and how it is to be played. Darryl rarely respects that Bill's bass parts are in the foundation of certain songs. I don't hear Darryl doing the Bo Diddley diving bass runs at the end of 19th Nervous Breakdown. Kudos to Steve Jordan for getting it.

Re: Steve Jordan Reinvigorating the Band
Posted by: DeanGoodman ()
Date: October 16, 2021 16:11

Quote
24FPS
I like Steve's attitude and approach a lot better than Darryl's. Steve knows some of Charlie's drumming is an actual part of the song, and how it is to be played. Darryl rarely respects that Bill's bass parts are in the foundation of certain songs. I don't hear Darryl doing the Bo Diddley diving bass runs at the end of 19th Nervous Breakdown. Kudos to Steve Jordan for getting it.

I think Darryl did the bass run outro on Thursday - or at least an approximation of it. The only mildly inspired thing he's done with the Stones in 27 years.

Re: Steve Jordan Reinvigorating the Band
Posted by: Rocktiludrop ()
Date: October 16, 2021 16:12

Quote
24FPS
Quote
Hairball
I'm not sure it's really Steve Jordan per se that's reinvigorated the band, but more due to the fact that Charlie has passed away. Keith, Mick, and Ronnie have taken their sorrow and turned into a giant ball of energy.
That said, I did notice at one point Darryl getting in to a serious hard groove with Steve - focusing and staring at eachother...might have been 19th Nervous Breakdown - they were tight!

I like Steve's attitude and approach a lot better than Darryl's. Steve knows some of Charlie's drumming is an actual part of the song, and how it is to be played. Darryl rarely respects that Bill's bass parts are in the foundation of certain songs. I don't hear Darryl doing the Bo Diddley diving bass runs at the end of 19th Nervous Breakdown. Kudos to Steve Jordan for getting it.

Yeah i tend to think Bill was so much better, but if you leave this band the door gets locked behind you and they throw away the key. .
Ronnie probably could have done with a few more months recovery but thought shit Waddy might turn up for rehearsals.

This band is destined to become the Expensive Stones.

Re: Steve Jordan Reinvigorating the Band
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: October 16, 2021 17:35

Quote
Rocktiludrop
Quote
24FPS
Quote
Hairball
I'm not sure it's really Steve Jordan per se that's reinvigorated the band, but more due to the fact that Charlie has passed away. Keith, Mick, and Ronnie have taken their sorrow and turned into a giant ball of energy.
That said, I did notice at one point Darryl getting in to a serious hard groove with Steve - focusing and staring at eachother...might have been 19th Nervous Breakdown - they were tight!

I like Steve's attitude and approach a lot better than Darryl's. Steve knows some of Charlie's drumming is an actual part of the song, and how it is to be played. Darryl rarely respects that Bill's bass parts are in the foundation of certain songs. I don't hear Darryl doing the Bo Diddley diving bass runs at the end of 19th Nervous Breakdown. Kudos to Steve Jordan for getting it.

Yeah i tend to think Bill was so much better, but if you leave this band the door gets locked behind you and they throw away the key. .
Ronnie probably could have done with a few more months recovery but thought shit Waddy might turn up for rehearsals.

This band is destined to become the Expensive Stones.

I think they both threw away the key, though the band left the door unlocked long after Bill waved goodbye. I watched a video from 1972 to make sure my eyes and ears weren't deceiving me. With all this talk of current greatness, I wanted to make sure they were any good at all in the past, when you paid 5 bucks to see them in an arena. Turns out they were incredible. On a whole other level. I know that tours were money losers then. The idea was to promote the band and sell albums. Almost all money comes from touring now, so the poor dears have to charge $450 to see their wrinkles close up. Or more for an 'intimate' 7,000 in a casino in an ersatz Hollywood.

Is that part of their mystique now? How much it costs to see them? I would pony up $450 to see 'that' Stones from 1972, or the Zenith of all Stones bands, the 1973 European tour. Maybe that's what the heirs will charge to see them as holograms in twenty years.

Re: Steve Jordan Reinvigorating the Band
Posted by: KRiffhard ()
Date: October 16, 2021 18:05

In my opinion Steve is doing a great job and is the best choice. I hope he's involved in the new album as well.

Re: Steve Jordan Reinvigorating the Band
Posted by: Rocktiludrop ()
Date: October 16, 2021 18:09

Quote
24FPS
Quote
Rocktiludrop
Quote
24FPS
Quote
Hairball
I'm not sure it's really Steve Jordan per se that's reinvigorated the band, but more due to the fact that Charlie has passed away. Keith, Mick, and Ronnie have taken their sorrow and turned into a giant ball of energy.
That said, I did notice at one point Darryl getting in to a serious hard groove with Steve - focusing and staring at eachother...might have been 19th Nervous Breakdown - they were tight!

I like Steve's attitude and approach a lot better than Darryl's. Steve knows some of Charlie's drumming is an actual part of the song, and how it is to be played. Darryl rarely respects that Bill's bass parts are in the foundation of certain songs. I don't hear Darryl doing the Bo Diddley diving bass runs at the end of 19th Nervous Breakdown. Kudos to Steve Jordan for getting it.

Yeah i tend to think Bill was so much better, but if you leave this band the door gets locked behind you and they throw away the key. .
Ronnie probably could have done with a few more months recovery but thought shit Waddy might turn up for rehearsals.

This band is destined to become the Expensive Stones.

I think they both threw away the key, though the band left the door unlocked long after Bill waved goodbye. I watched a video from 1972 to make sure my eyes and ears weren't deceiving me. With all this talk of current greatness, I wanted to make sure they were any good at all in the past, when you paid 5 bucks to see them in an arena. Turns out they were incredible. On a whole other level. I know that tours were money losers then. The idea was to promote the band and sell albums. Almost all money comes from touring now, so the poor dears have to charge $450 to see their wrinkles close up. Or more for an 'intimate' 7,000 in a casino in an ersatz Hollywood.

Is that part of their mystique now? How much it costs to see them? I would pony up $450 to see 'that' Stones from 1972, or the Zenith of all Stones bands, the 1973 European tour. Maybe that's what the heirs will charge to see them as holograms in twenty years.

Judging by Getty images we are watching holograms now winking smiley how do their wrinkles disappear on Stage, especially Mick who looked older in 1998 confused smiley

I don't go back as far as 72 but in many ways ( due to technology ) you could argue they are playing better now than in 1981, although not as good as in 89' 90'

It's a tough one to call, such a shame their shows were so short in 72' and were limited in their catalogue.

Re: Steve Jordan Reinvigorating the Band
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: November 4, 2021 07:44

Quote
Rocktiludrop
Quote
24FPS
Quote
Rocktiludrop
Quote
24FPS
Quote
Hairball
I'm not sure it's really Steve Jordan per se that's reinvigorated the band, but more due to the fact that Charlie has passed away. Keith, Mick, and Ronnie have taken their sorrow and turned into a giant ball of energy.
That said, I did notice at one point Darryl getting in to a serious hard groove with Steve - focusing and staring at eachother...might have been 19th Nervous Breakdown - they were tight!

I like Steve's attitude and approach a lot better than Darryl's. Steve knows some of Charlie's drumming is an actual part of the song, and how it is to be played. Darryl rarely respects that Bill's bass parts are in the foundation of certain songs. I don't hear Darryl doing the Bo Diddley diving bass runs at the end of 19th Nervous Breakdown. Kudos to Steve Jordan for getting it.

Yeah i tend to think Bill was so much better, but if you leave this band the door gets locked behind you and they throw away the key. .
Ronnie probably could have done with a few more months recovery but thought shit Waddy might turn up for rehearsals.

This band is destined to become the Expensive Stones.

I think they both threw away the key, though the band left the door unlocked long after Bill waved goodbye. I watched a video from 1972 to make sure my eyes and ears weren't deceiving me. With all this talk of current greatness, I wanted to make sure they were any good at all in the past, when you paid 5 bucks to see them in an arena. Turns out they were incredible. On a whole other level. I know that tours were money losers then. The idea was to promote the band and sell albums. Almost all money comes from touring now, so the poor dears have to charge $450 to see their wrinkles close up. Or more for an 'intimate' 7,000 in a casino in an ersatz Hollywood.

Is that part of their mystique now? How much it costs to see them? I would pony up $450 to see 'that' Stones from 1972, or the Zenith of all Stones bands, the 1973 European tour. Maybe that's what the heirs will charge to see them as holograms in twenty years.

Judging by Getty images we are watching holograms now winking smiley how do their wrinkles disappear on Stage, especially Mick who looked older in 1998 confused smiley

I don't go back as far as 72 but in many ways ( due to technology ) you could argue they are playing better now than in 1981, although not as good as in 89' 90'

It's a tough one to call, such a shame their shows were so short in 72' and were limited in their catalogue.

You're right. The setlist in '72 was like 15 songs. But weren't they sometimes doing two shows a day? And the energy level was through the roof. The catalogue was limited because they were pushing recent product. 8 of the 15 songs were either Sticky Fingers, or Exile, with four of the others from Let It Bleed. They did nothing older than Beggars Banquet era, unless you want to count the one Chuck Berry number Bye Bye Johnny.

As for Steve Jordan, I watched some Dallas clips. They do appear to be struggling to keep up with them, which is what Charlie did to them to. Though I do think Mr. Watts had slowed considerably on some songs the last few tours. It's good that Steve is kicking their butts again. They should be hot and lathered up and ready to tour more, or get in there and finish that album.

Re: Steve Jordan Reinvigorating the Band
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: November 4, 2021 11:33

In my opinion Steve Jordan has chosen to really take it easy, to only provide the backbeat and that's it. No frills and thrills, nothing special. He does not have the swing Charlie had, and by taking it easy it all sounds very lackluster. And unfortunately his hard hitting snare has returned as well....

It makes the Stones very much sound like a Stones cover band. And not a really good one at that, as I think all really are too old now to do these kind of shows. I watched SMU from Dallas and I find it painful to watch in all honesty.

Mathijs

Re: Steve Jordan Reinvigorating the Band
Posted by: guyrachel ()
Date: November 4, 2021 12:01

Overall for 99% of what I’ve listened to and watched on YouTube, Steve has reinvigorated the band and put the tempo back into many songs that needed pace, except START ME UP, that I’ve not enjoyed for many years, it feels like a CHUG, Ronnie never gets the solo, and there are no dynamics within the song, the contrast of drums/percussion against the Rythm guitar on record is a subtle concoction, but LIVE CURRENTLY it certainly has none of the new energy that most ic the rockers have had on this tour….

Re: Steve Jordan Reinvigorating the Band
Posted by: Nikkei ()
Date: November 4, 2021 12:56

I feel like I can enjoy Steve's drumming for about a minute of each song, then it becomes a matter of enduring it

Re: Steve Jordan Reinvigorating the Band
Posted by: Rocktiludrop ()
Date: November 4, 2021 13:19

Quote
Nikkei
I feel like I can enjoy Steve's drumming for about a minute of each song, then it becomes a matter of enduring it

But compared to Talk Is Cheap , his drumming with the Stones sounds like a gentle drop of rain majestically falling into a wistfully poised leaf.

Re: Steve Jordan Reinvigorating the Band
Posted by: spikenyc ()
Date: November 4, 2021 18:51

Its not the same without Charlie but Steve defenitley has given the band a shot of adrenaline.
They seem to be really "on" this tour.

I compare it to when the Grateful Dead lost their keyboard player Brent Mydland.
Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby filled in for the keys.
You could tell that Garcia was totally invigorated by his new keyboard players.

Re: Steve Jordan Reinvigorating the Band
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: November 4, 2021 19:38

Quote
Rocktiludrop
Quote
Nikkei
I feel like I can enjoy Steve's drumming for about a minute of each song, then it becomes a matter of enduring it

But compared to Talk Is Cheap , his drumming with the Stones sounds like a gentle drop of rain majestically falling into a wistfully poised leaf.

Quite elegiac. I don't have a problem with Steve Jordan's drumming on this tour. Then again I don't know how it would stand up in Surround Sound on a DVD. That's what reinforced how good Bill was. All the clips are from people's phones on YouTube. Considering the circumstances, I think he's doing a great job. Maybe he's toned down that late 80s drumming. I noticed he's got one of Charlie's tricks. Not hitting the drum. Holding the stick back when it's expected to hit, creating that little offbeat, hiccup, whatever you want to call it.

Goto Page: Previous1234
Current Page: 4 of 4


Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.

Online Users

Guests: 482
Record Number of Users: 189 on August 24, 2021 20:10
Record Number of Guests: 6295 on November 30, 2021 14:09

Previous page Next page First page IORR home