if many of you talk about your Fav.-Stones-albums most of you prefer B.B.--L.I.B.---S.F.-- Exile, maybe some "some girls"--A.B.B.--Black and Blue--G.H.S.

----but where is "ITS ONLY ROCKN ROLL"?

for me its just a great Album with a lot of highlights.

If you cant rock me---Aint too proud to beg---til the next goodbye---Short and Curlies and the beautiful "Time waits for no-one"

This Album are in the tOP 5 for me!!

Saw a lot of Stones-Album--rankings here-----but where is this-one?

For me there are two golden eras:
Beggars to IORR, and Some Girls to Tattoo, with a wide spread, very interesting, kinda funky, reggae, jazzy, rockin' Black&Blue in the middle, playing in his own league.

I think that the reason that IORR and GHS don't get the respect they deserve is the timing of their release. They were doomed by the fact that they followed 4 masterpieces. In my opinion, these two releases are solid efforts that have stood the test of time.

iorr is a great album.

I like it, like it, yes, I do!

"If You Can't Rock Me" - killer keef riff, if yur gonna build a song around a riff, here's a great example (great geetar tone as well)classic Jagger rauchy vocals on this rocker...."Aint Too Proud To Beg" - the boys do this Temptations tune justice (thumb's up)..."It's Only Rock'N'Roll - classic Stones ('nuff said)..."Till The Next Goodbye" - beautiful, underrated ballad with some fine Jagger lyrical imagery...."Time Waits For No One" - cliched lyrics with beautiful music(M.Taylor's soaring solos give this tune a lift)...."Luxury" - love this reggae tinged rocker (beautifully nasty geetar tone)...Dance Little Sister - another underrated gem (what a killer guitar riff...makes this baby fly)how can you not shake yur arse to this gem?...."If You Really Want To Be My Friend"- fine, fine soul ballad with some nice piano touches..."Short & Curlies" - excellent barrelhouse piano tune..too bad she's got you by the balls! this tune swings mighty!..."Fingerprint File" - unique stones tune lyrically and musically with some fine funky base lines...nice, slow groove tune..Jagger's vocals cut deep.....all in all what a gem of an album........no filler, all killer



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I have never met anyone who doesn't love the Stones version of Ain't To Proud To Beg...but it still bugs me that it's not Charlie playing on IORR...

I agree, IORR is one of the greats.

Vilhelm
Nordic Stones Vikings

This is one fun album to listen to straight through. It's pretty solid. I wish that they would play IORR similiar to the studio version. I don't like how they've turned that song into a Chuck Berry type of song. But hey, that's just my opinion.

No album pre 1981 is really underrated. It's the stuff after that crazy cut-off that gets zilch respect, even when it merits some.

"It's Only Rock'n Roll" is a great album, it contains no weak song, wonderful ballads (If You Really wanna be My Friend, Till the Next Goodbye, Time Waits for No One), hard hitting rockers (If You Can't Rock Me, I?s Only Rockn' Roll, Dance Little Sister, Ain't to Proud to Beg), bluesy material (Short and Curlies) and the unique Luxury and Fingerprint File, which are both difficult to categorizise. The album is both rock and melody in their best shape. I rank it over "Goats Head Soup", which is also a great album. I hold "IORR" one of the ten albums of our band.

RobertJohnson Wrote:
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> "It's Only Rock'n Roll" is a great album, it
> contains no weak song, wonderful ballads (If You
> Really wanna be My Friend, Till the Next Goodbye,
> Time Waits for No One), hard hitting rockers (If
> You Can't Rock Me, I?s Only Rockn' Roll, Dance
> Little Sister, Ain't to Proud to Beg), bluesy
> material (Short and Curlies) and the unique Luxury
> and Fingerprint File, which are both difficult to
> categorizise. The album is both rock and melody in
> their best shape. I rank it over "Goats Head
> Soup", which is also a great album. I hold "IORR"
> one of the ten albums of our band.


... one of the TEN best albums of our band ...

the big 4 , then some girls ,,,then iorr ,,,but we like it

inopeng Wrote:
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> I have never met anyone who doesn't love the
> Stones version of Ain't To Proud To Beg...but it
> still bugs me that it's not Charlie playing on
> IORR...


I've seen it often said that Kenny Jones plays on this (and Willie Weeks, I think, on bass), but Wyman in his book claimed that he and Charlie were later overdubbed in. Sounds a lot like CW to me, but???

IORR is a good album, but I always thought it suffers from a dry, dull sound. I bought the remaster and it's better, but still doesn't seem to have a lot of dynamic. Just a minor quibble though.

Karl

dj Wrote:
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> I think that the reason that IORR and GHS don't
> get the respect they deserve is the timing of
> their release. They were doomed by the fact that
> they followed 4 masterpieces. In my opinion, these
> two releases are solid efforts that have stood the
> test of time.


I'm in total agreement with this statement


the shoot 'em dead, brainbell jangler!

Interesting how so this has become an underrated album. At the time of release, it was one of the albums of the year in Rolling Stone Magazine. I think that the production hurts -- a LOT. IORR doesn't rock the way it always has live, and great, great songs like Luxury and Time Waits for No One should soar, but somehow they don't. Nevertheless a great album, with a cool cover. Plus, it has Short & Curlies!!!

iorr is the one true total rolling stones album...no other stones album before or after has the stones feel like iorr..
what other album has every band member except brian jones on the same album?
without woodie we wouldn't have iorr...and with out taylor the rest would have just died off....GREAT ROCKERS, JAZZ, BLUES, COUNTRY, MOTOWN...anyway, if you can't rock me somebody will.....

Wait, I've thought for a long time, this album is OVERrated. It's usually considered a slight comeback from Goats Head Soup, which is actually much better. A couple of great songs, but tons of filler. And the cover is ridiculous.

Your opinion of might depend on your appreciation of taylor. I hear his playing on this album as mostly boring, a sign that something needed to change. Either he was feeling stifled, or worse, when he was allowed to go in the directions he wanted, the results were regretful.

"If You Can't Rock Me" - the first of the "Start Me Up"/"Flip the Switch"/"Wired All Night"/by the numbers template. Not a bad groove, but not a good sign.

"Aint Too Proud To Beg" - pretty wooden, especially compared to "Just My Imagination." And it's so long... though it worked better live. I guess there's some sort of statement in opening with these 2 lightweight songs, and the title track.

"It's Only Rock'N'Roll" - top-notch. I agree with the poster who said the rearrangement of this tune into a standard chuck berry is a DRAG. Can't they reproduce that groove? Maybe it's not charlie...

"Till The Next Goodbye" - nothing going on in this "Angie" replay.

"Time Waits For No One" - possibly the stones' most boring song. A grittier production might have helped, but the journey into the taylor-sphere here runs low on oxygen. How long is this track, 9 minutes?

"Luxury" - great song - is that mick on the opening guitar?

"Dance Little Sister" - awesome - I don't think it's underrated, it was on Made in the Shade.

"If You Really Want To Be My Friend"- this is a song I need to revisit. Kind of buried after the 2 dreadful ballads on side 1.

"Short & Curlies" - fun, but a good comparison to "Hide Your Love." The clean production here exposes the lack of a song, whereas on GHS, you get a cool sound.

"Fingerprint File" - now this is underrated. A shame they didn't have the confidence to keep playing it live (or to arrange a proper ending for it).

Only 4 stones-worthy songs here, IMO. And it seems to me that apart from "Dance Little Sister," the key contributions are all from mick. A lot of people blame mick for taking the band in different directions during this period, but what was he supposed to do when keith was out of it and had little to offer? GHS has better songs, and B&B is more adventurous. And has better songs.

cc

Yes IORR is a GREAT album. Like B7B it has stood the test of time very well. The tune that I love a lot here is If you really want to be my friend. Now there is an underrated tune. Great changes and superb vocal by Jagger.

Hey, the worst song on the album is Time Waits For No One, how bad can the album be?

It's a weak Stones album possibly the weakest of the seventies. Many of the songs lack depth and focus and are boring after initial listens. It's a going through the motions type album although there are a few highlights- Mick Taylor's guitar solo on Time Waits For No One and Jagger's vocal on Luxury Luxury being a couple of them.

I love this album too, I really love "If You Really Want To Be My Friend" and I'd love to hear it live!

I think I've bust a button on my trousers....

OK, IORR was my first favourite album. Love you live was the first album but IORR was the one I listen to after LYL. I htought of it as the demo for the 75-76 tour. Aha, this is how they do IFYCRM. And I tried to figure it out not knowing Keith tuned his guitars in open tunings. Underrated, yes sir.

I think this is a great album as all the album from 1963 to 1982.

Have heard the whole album after years today.
It is a great album .....and indeed underrated IMO.
Would love to hear "Dance little sister" & "Fingerprint file"
played live these days.
also they should throw in AiToPrToBeg in this tour from time to time.

salar

'Fingerprint File' - classic phone call song, right up there with 'Hello, Darlin'' by Conway Twitty and Loretta Lynn.

i don´t consider iorr underrated....it´s an average stones album, one of the weaker in the seventie, though i like some songs of it (iycrm, iorr, luxury, dance little sister, Fingerprint file), but it can´t stand the comparison to classics.

I was about 17 when this album came out, & it was quite popular & got major airplay. What I really beleive is GHS & IORR suffered from the musical climate in the mid-late 70s. Music went from a singles dominated market to an album orientated market. Also at this time the impact of music was drastically reduced from the 60s heyday when many songs became anthems.

saturn57 Wrote:
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> I was about 17 when this album came out, & it
> was quite popular & got major airplay. What I
> really beleive is GHS & IORR suffered from the
> musical climate in the mid-late 70s. Music went
> from a singles dominated market to an album
> orientated market.

Yes. I think this part had already happened, in the late '60s. At least for what was now called "rock music" (vs. "rock and roll"). "Pop" remains a singles thing and only occasionally crosses over with rock.

cc

cc Wrote:
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> Wait, I've thought for a long time, this album is
> OVERrated. It's usually considered a slight
> comeback from Goats Head Soup, which is actually
> much better. A couple of great songs, but tons of
> filler. And the cover is ridiculous.
>
> Your opinion of might depend on your appreciation
> of taylor. I hear his playing on this album as
> mostly boring, a sign that something needed to
> change. Either he was feeling stifled, or worse,
> when he was allowed to go in the directions he
> wanted, the results were regretful.
>
> "If You Can't Rock Me" - the first of the "Start
> Me Up"/"Flip the Switch"/"Wired All Night"/by the
> numbers template. Not a bad groove, but not a good
> sign.
>
> "Aint Too Proud To Beg" - pretty wooden,
> especially compared to "Just My Imagination." And
> it's so long... though it worked better live. I
> guess there's some sort of statement in opening
> with these 2 lightweight songs, and the title
> track.
>
> "It's Only Rock'N'Roll" - top-notch. I agree with
> the poster who said the rearrangement of this tune
> into a standard chuck berry is a DRAG. Can't they
> reproduce that groove? Maybe it's not charlie...
>
> "Till The Next Goodbye" - nothing going on in this
> "Angie" replay.
>
> "Time Waits For No One" - possibly the stones'
> most boring song. A grittier production might have
> helped, but the journey into the taylor-sphere
> here runs low on oxygen. How long is this track, 9
> minutes?
>
> "Luxury" - great song - is that mick on the
> opening guitar?
>
> "Dance Little Sister" - awesome - I don't think
> it's underrated, it was on Made in the Shade.
>
> "If You Really Want To Be My Friend"- this is a
> song I need to revisit. Kind of buried after the 2
> dreadful ballads on side 1.
>
> "Short & Curlies" - fun, but a good comparison
> to "Hide Your Love." The clean production here
> exposes the lack of a song, whereas on GHS, you
> get a cool sound.
>
> "Fingerprint File" - now this is underrated. A
> shame they didn't have the confidence to keep
> playing it live (or to arrange a proper ending for
> it).
>
> Only 4 stones-worthy songs here, IMO. And it seems
> to me that apart from "Dance Little Sister," the
> key contributions are all from mick. A lot of
> people blame mick for taking the band in different
> directions during this period, but what was he
> supposed to do when keith was out of it and had
> little to offer? GHS has better songs, and B&B
> is more adventurous. And has better songs.
>
> cc


I couldn't agree more