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By the way, this Eliza Upchink, who is she? (Or what is it?)
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Threads merged but curiosity remains.
Does anybody know who Eliza Upchink was?
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Here's some most interesting and revealing observations by "Rev 20 Redlights" published on the messageboard of rocksoff.org
(maybe you find them to be of interest; there's lots of lyrics and the Rev's ideas to be found, by the way):
i think the proper name for track 5 is "Old Eliza Jane". It is the Stones'
version of the many "Liza Jane" variations that originated in the
early 19th century and which became standardized in Appalachia and
New Orleans as "Lil Liza Jane" (young and a real sweetheart) and
"Good Bye Eliza Jane" (when she's gotten jaded and just uses men
for their money, until they inevitably smarten up and kick her to
the curb).
"a song with the refrain "Oh lil Liza, lil Liza Jane" was sung by slaves
before the American Civil War. The name "Eliza Jane" was a standard character
in minstrel shows. A "Liza Jane" tune was first published in 1871. The book
"Negro Folk-Songs", published in 1918, documents a version associated with
a dancing game. Couples would dance in a circle, with an extra woman in the
middle. The extra woman would "steal" one of the men, the odd woman out then
going into the center, this process repeating."
here's a few more of the many variants:
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and some lyrics from a 1903 version that perhaps inspired jagger:
Look a’ here, Liza, listen to me
You ain’t the gal you promised to be
Didn’t you say you always would be true?
You went a-driving with Mister Brown
Now I’m the laughing stock of the town
Folks say that I was crazy to trust you
And well, you‘ll know, when I go
I was the fella with the “dough, dough, dough”
Good-bye, Eliza Jane
Look a’ here, Liza, take off those rings
Dig in that trunk, gal, hand me those things
Cough up that old gold watch and chain
Take that umbrella, cause it might rain
Rent time is here, babe, landlord today
I’ll be away; who’s going to pay?
Good-bye, Eliza Jane
But i think jagger takes it a step farther, in that he's
more understanding in his attitude towards eliza. Yeah,
she's back on the streets again, but as somebody once said,
she just can't be chained to a life where nothing's gained,
and nothing's lost. I mean, she can't help it if she's built
that way.
In other words, she's quite familiar with how it feels.
To be on her own. With no direction home.
Old Eliza Janeaka "back on the streets again"
aka "eliza upchink"
(approx lyrics)
well all, welcome to you
i'm gonna catch up fast
i won't mind you, honey
it wont be the last
if you late, want money
if you want it quick
here's five hundred dollars
hello Big Fat Lips
old eliza's gambling
old eliza jane
old eliza, back on time
back on the street again
you say you want money
if you hate your life
i won't bark, i won't bray
give me all your ride
she will spend my money
she will try it real quick
i'll be stiffening, i love jesus
i wanna stick it in her
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i said old eliza's gambling
old eliza jane
old eliza's gambling
she's back on the street again
she wont send my jewelry
give me my first show
you don't miss, you don't get to
i dont blow your door
she won't feed her family
i don't need your sass
if i had a million bucks
i would be the last
i said, old eliza's gambling
old eliza jane
old eliza's gagging
she's out on the streets again
you said steal my money
you think it will last
you want five hundred dollars
you want more or less
you weren't meant to do it
you cant pay your rent
you cant pay for all i pray for
back on the street again
you said, old eliza's doing
what you done all day
christian doll says, silly fool
she gonna find a way
you don't wear no bonnet
and will make the rain
all i ever do is to go tell you
when i'm back on the streets again
old eliza's gambling
old eliza jane
here's four hundred dollars
get out on the street and pray
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-07-26 15:08 by Norbert.