Tell Me :  Talk
Talk about your favorite band. 

Previous page Next page First page IORR home

For information about how to use this forum please check out forum help and policies.

Goto Page: 12Next
Current Page: 1 of 2
Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Posted by: thomashanck ()
Date: June 30, 2020 00:15

hi,

THAT did surprise me today ...

[www.youtube.com]

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: June 30, 2020 06:24

Wow! The Rock and Roll Circus is one of my favorite things ever. Has the other version of Sympathy for the Devil, with Brian on guitar instead of Keith I believe, ever been released? Also, I guess this is a rehearsal? I'd also love to hear Jethro Tull's Fat Man.

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Posted by: Cristiano Radtke ()
Date: June 30, 2020 07:28

That was a great surpriae from the ABKCO copyright "release".

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: June 30, 2020 08:23

That was very nice to hear. Unfortunately Brian appears to not be on it at all, and it's one of his greatest contributions.

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Posted by: iraq0708 ()
Date: June 30, 2020 08:57

I was playing this just now (on vinyl boot) and the wife came in just as it started and said "hey that sounds slower!"..She knew the difference...that's why I love her!

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Posted by: Tate ()
Date: June 30, 2020 13:44

Why the HECK was this not included on the album?? Damn, that is amazing.

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Posted by: georgie48 ()
Date: June 30, 2020 14:09

Very nice try, but good they didn’t include it in the video/DVD because “the shining diamond” was missing. It would have been unforgivable!

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Date: June 30, 2020 16:15

Quote
georgie48
Very nice try, but good they didn’t include it in the video/DVD because “the shining diamond” was missing. It would have been unforgivable!

Wasn't he "missing" on the other tracks on the dvd as well?

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Posted by: loog droog ()
Date: June 30, 2020 17:39

What a find!

Thanks!!

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Date: June 30, 2020 17:52

Quote
loog droog
What a find!

Thanks!!

It was copyright released months ago. My email isn't hidden, if you want the other studio / rehearsal tracks.

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Posted by: Taylor1 ()
Date: June 30, 2020 18:21

It is inferior to the original IMO.Without Brian’s recorder it loses its magic.I also like the live performances from 1967 with Brian playing great recorder.

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Posted by: gastonl74 ()
Date: June 30, 2020 19:37

Here you can see that Brian's contribution is magical! and fundamental!
without Brian's flute that song is nothing

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: June 30, 2020 19:51

Man that's great..... If you think that we know all this pops UP smiling bouncing smiley

__________________________

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Posted by: Kennedy ()
Date: June 30, 2020 19:54

Nice surprise!

Can anyone confirm whether that is Charlie or Jimmy Miller on the drums?

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Posted by: georgie48 ()
Date: June 30, 2020 21:08

Quote
DandelionPowderman
Quote
georgie48
Very nice try, but good they didn’t include it in the video/DVD because “the shining diamond” was missing. It would have been unforgivable!

Wasn't he "missing" on the other tracks on the dvd as well?

He did participate in a couple other songs, but where he didn't come out well, they "deleted" his contribution from the recording.

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Posted by: georgie48 ()
Date: June 30, 2020 21:11

Quote
Taylor1
It is inferior to the original IMO.Without Brian’s recorder it loses its magic.I also like the live performances from 1967 with Brian playing great recorder.

I agree. I have several live recordings from 1967 and with a magnificent Brian Jones on recorder on Ruby Tuesday. I consider those as real treasures.

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: July 11, 2020 17:09

Quote
DandelionPowderman
Quote
georgie48
Very nice try, but good they didn’t include it in the video/DVD because “the shining diamond” was missing. It would have been unforgivable!

Wasn't he "missing" on the other tracks on the dvd as well?

No.

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: July 11, 2020 17:15

Quote
georgie48
Quote
DandelionPowderman
Quote
georgie48
Very nice try, but good they didn’t include it in the video/DVD because “the shining diamond” was missing. It would have been unforgivable!

Wasn't he "missing" on the other tracks on the dvd as well?

He did participate in a couple other songs, but where he didn't come out well, they "deleted" his contribution from the recording.

He participated in all of the songs at the R&R Circus, albeit in a mostly subdued manner. The only part where he isn't heard playing what he played is the intro of YCAGWYW, but his guitar comes in once the whole band does.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2020-07-11 17:18 by His Majesty.

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: July 11, 2020 17:36

Never heard that before.. Cool

.

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Posted by: georgie48 ()
Date: July 11, 2020 20:52

That's good to know! There were rumours of his emplyfier being shut down, etc.
For a good representation of movie off course poor stuff should be filtered, but apparently Brian's contribution wasn't as bad/poor as often told.
Whatever way you look at it, The "Circus" is a historic chapter in the history of the Rolling Stones.

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Date: July 12, 2020 00:01

Quote
gastonl74
Here you can see that Brian's contribution is magical! and fundamental!
without Brian's flute that song is nothing

It's a rehearsal...

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Posted by: Taylor1 ()
Date: July 12, 2020 01:53

Quote
DandelionPowderman
Quote
gastonl74
Here you can see that Brian's contribution is magical! and fundamental!
without Brian's flute that song is nothing

It's a rehearsal...
And if they played it live with that arrangement it would still be nothing without Brian.He should have got a writing credit for it, just like Wyman for JJ Flash.Look how U2 handles their writing credits.Im not saying Keith and Mick haven’t written most of the songs ,but still..

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Date: July 12, 2020 08:48

Quote
Taylor1
Quote
DandelionPowderman
Quote
gastonl74
Here you can see that Brian's contribution is magical! and fundamental!
without Brian's flute that song is nothing

It's a rehearsal...
And if they played it live with that arrangement it would still be nothing without Brian.He should have got a writing credit for it, just like Wyman for JJ Flash.Look how U2 handles their writing credits.Im not saying Keith and Mick haven’t written most of the songs ,but still..

You know this because...?

They have done many lovely live versions of RT that prove you wrong.

Comparing a rehearsal with a finished studio take is a bit fresh...

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: July 12, 2020 11:46

Quote
georgie48
For a good representation of movie off course poor stuff should be filtered, but apparently Brian's contribution wasn't as bad/poor as often told.

Unfortunately, His Majesty's work on showing what Brian played did point out that Brian's contribution to RnR Circus was horrendous. Even to the extent that you can clearly understand the Stones wanted to sack him -here you are, the wold leading rock band of the day, spending loads of money on a movie project, and there's your guitar player being totally wasted and not being able to play even the most simple guitar chords.

Mathijs

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Posted by: pepganzo ()
Date: July 12, 2020 12:06

Interesting version.

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Posted by: Taylor1 ()
Date: July 12, 2020 12:36

Quote
Taylor1
Quote
DandelionPowderman
Quote
gastonl74
Here you can see that Brian's contribution is magical! and fundamental!
without Brian's flute that song is nothing

It's a rehearsal...
And if they played it live with that arrangement it would still be nothing without Brian.He should have got a writing credit for it, just like Wyman for JJ Flash.Look how U2 handles their writing credits.Im not saying Keith and Mick haven’t written most of the songs ,but still..
. The lovely live versions are only “lovely” when Matt Clifford is copying his recorder karaoke style. There is no lovely live version without it

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Posted by: Taylor1 ()
Date: July 12, 2020 12:43

Quote
Mathijs
Quote
georgie48
For a good representation of movie off course poor stuff should be filtered, but apparently Brian's contribution wasn't as bad/poor as often told.

Unfortunately, His Majesty's work on showing what Brian played did point out that Brian's contribution to RnR Circus was horrendous. Even to the extent that you can clearly understand the Stones wanted to sack him -here you are, the wold leading rock band of the day, spending loads of money on a movie project, and there's your guitar player being totally wasted and not being able to play even the most simple guitar chords.

Mathijs
Is it possible that he played so poorly as you say because they went on stage after being up almost 24 hours and he may have been so drunk or high he couldn’t play .Because he didn’t seem to have this problem at the NME Awards show in 1968 where according to Marianne Faithful he played great on JJ Flash.Did not playing guitar on the studio versions mean maybe he didn’t know the songs that well.

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: July 12, 2020 14:33

Quote
Taylor1
Quote
Mathijs
Quote
georgie48
For a good representation of movie off course poor stuff should be filtered, but apparently Brian's contribution wasn't as bad/poor as often told.

Unfortunately, His Majesty's work on showing what Brian played did point out that Brian's contribution to RnR Circus was horrendous. Even to the extent that you can clearly understand the Stones wanted to sack him -here you are, the wold leading rock band of the day, spending loads of money on a movie project, and there's your guitar player being totally wasted and not being able to play even the most simple guitar chords.

Mathijs
Is it possible that he played so poorly as you say because they went on stage after being up almost 24 hours and he may have been so drunk or high he couldn’t play .Because he didn’t seem to have this problem at the NME Awards show in 1968 where according to Marianne Faithful he played great on JJ Flash.Did not playing guitar on the studio versions mean maybe he didn’t know the songs that well.

That's entirely possible. But part of being a professional musician is to be somewhat sober when the lights go on...

Mathijs

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: July 12, 2020 16:06

Quote
Mathijs
Quote
Taylor1
Quote
Mathijs
Quote
georgie48
For a good representation of movie off course poor stuff should be filtered, but apparently Brian's contribution wasn't as bad/poor as often told.

Unfortunately, His Majesty's work on showing what Brian played did point out that Brian's contribution to RnR Circus was horrendous. Even to the extent that you can clearly understand the Stones wanted to sack him -here you are, the wold leading rock band of the day, spending loads of money on a movie project, and there's your guitar player being totally wasted and not being able to play even the most simple guitar chords.

Mathijs
Is it possible that he played so poorly as you say because they went on stage after being up almost 24 hours and he may have been so drunk or high he couldn’t play .Because he didn’t seem to have this problem at the NME Awards show in 1968 where according to Marianne Faithful he played great on JJ Flash.Did not playing guitar on the studio versions mean maybe he didn’t know the songs that well.

That's entirely possible. But part of being a professional musician is to be somewhat sober when the lights go on...

Mathijs

Exactly. And a professional musician should know the stuff he's going to play and the difference between an informal jam session and an official event that's going to be recorded and filmed for public distribution...

...and if not, getting sacked sooner or later shouldn't come as a big surprise.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-07-12 20:51 by retired_dog.

Re: Ruby Tuesday (Rock and Roll Circus Rehearsals) 8th dec. 1968
Posted by: stonesstein ()
Date: July 13, 2020 03:58

Quote
DandelionPowderman
Quote
Taylor1
Quote
DandelionPowderman
Quote
gastonl74
Here you can see that Brian's contribution is magical! and fundamental!
without Brian's flute that song is nothing

It's a rehearsal...
And if they played it live with that arrangement it would still be nothing without Brian.He should have got a writing credit for it, just like Wyman for JJ Flash.Look how U2 handles their writing credits.Im not saying Keith and Mick haven’t written most of the songs ,but still..

You know this because...?

They have done many lovely live versions of RT that prove you wrong.

Comparing a rehearsal with a finished studio take is a bit fresh...

I could not agree with Dandelion more! After the slide on No Expectations, nothing that Brian did was fundamental. It is so funny how people try to "romanticize" his contributions from late 68 and early 69 as somehow worthy of anything other than "how sad".

stonesstein

zipping thru the days at lightning speed
plug-in, flush-out, and find the f&%$ing feed

Goto Page: 12Next
Current Page: 1 of 2


Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.

Online Users

Guests: 530
Record Number of Users: 184 on May 17, 2018 22:46
Record Number of Guests: 3948 on December 7, 2015 15:07

Previous page Next page First page IORR home