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georgie48
Very nice try, but good they didn’t include it in the video/DVD because “the shining diamond” was missing. It would have been unforgivable!
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loog droog
What a find!
Thanks!!
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georgie48
Very nice try, but good they didn’t include it in the video/DVD because “the shining diamond” was missing. It would have been unforgivable!
Wasn't he "missing" on the other tracks on the dvd as well?
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Taylor1
It is inferior to the original IMO.Without Brian’s recorder it loses its magic.I also like the live performances from 1967 with Brian playing great recorder.
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georgie48
Very nice try, but good they didn’t include it in the video/DVD because “the shining diamond” was missing. It would have been unforgivable!
Wasn't he "missing" on the other tracks on the dvd as well?
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georgie48
Very nice try, but good they didn’t include it in the video/DVD because “the shining diamond” was missing. It would have been unforgivable!
Wasn't he "missing" on the other tracks on the dvd as well?
He did participate in a couple other songs, but where he didn't come out well, they "deleted" his contribution from the recording.
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gastonl74
Here you can see that Brian's contribution is magical! and fundamental!
without Brian's flute that song is nothing
And if they played it live with that arrangement it would still be nothing without Brian.He should have got a writing credit for it, just like Wyman for JJ Flash.Look how U2 handles their writing credits.Im not saying Keith and Mick haven’t written most of the songs ,but still..Quote
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gastonl74
Here you can see that Brian's contribution is magical! and fundamental!
without Brian's flute that song is nothing
It's a rehearsal...
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Taylor1And if they played it live with that arrangement it would still be nothing without Brian.He should have got a writing credit for it, just like Wyman for JJ Flash.Look how U2 handles their writing credits.Im not saying Keith and Mick haven’t written most of the songs ,but still..Quote
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gastonl74
Here you can see that Brian's contribution is magical! and fundamental!
without Brian's flute that song is nothing
It's a rehearsal...
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georgie48
For a good representation of movie off course poor stuff should be filtered, but apparently Brian's contribution wasn't as bad/poor as often told.
. The lovely live versions are only “lovely” when Matt Clifford is copying his recorder karaoke style. There is no lovely live version without itQuote
Taylor1And if they played it live with that arrangement it would still be nothing without Brian.He should have got a writing credit for it, just like Wyman for JJ Flash.Look how U2 handles their writing credits.Im not saying Keith and Mick haven’t written most of the songs ,but still..Quote
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gastonl74
Here you can see that Brian's contribution is magical! and fundamental!
without Brian's flute that song is nothing
It's a rehearsal...
Is it possible that he played so poorly as you say because they went on stage after being up almost 24 hours and he may have been so drunk or high he couldn’t play .Because he didn’t seem to have this problem at the NME Awards show in 1968 where according to Marianne Faithful he played great on JJ Flash.Did not playing guitar on the studio versions mean maybe he didn’t know the songs that well.Quote
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georgie48
For a good representation of movie off course poor stuff should be filtered, but apparently Brian's contribution wasn't as bad/poor as often told.
Unfortunately, His Majesty's work on showing what Brian played did point out that Brian's contribution to RnR Circus was horrendous. Even to the extent that you can clearly understand the Stones wanted to sack him -here you are, the wold leading rock band of the day, spending loads of money on a movie project, and there's your guitar player being totally wasted and not being able to play even the most simple guitar chords.
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Taylor1Is it possible that he played so poorly as you say because they went on stage after being up almost 24 hours and he may have been so drunk or high he couldn’t play .Because he didn’t seem to have this problem at the NME Awards show in 1968 where according to Marianne Faithful he played great on JJ Flash.Did not playing guitar on the studio versions mean maybe he didn’t know the songs that well.Quote
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georgie48
For a good representation of movie off course poor stuff should be filtered, but apparently Brian's contribution wasn't as bad/poor as often told.
Unfortunately, His Majesty's work on showing what Brian played did point out that Brian's contribution to RnR Circus was horrendous. Even to the extent that you can clearly understand the Stones wanted to sack him -here you are, the wold leading rock band of the day, spending loads of money on a movie project, and there's your guitar player being totally wasted and not being able to play even the most simple guitar chords.
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Taylor1Is it possible that he played so poorly as you say because they went on stage after being up almost 24 hours and he may have been so drunk or high he couldn’t play .Because he didn’t seem to have this problem at the NME Awards show in 1968 where according to Marianne Faithful he played great on JJ Flash.Did not playing guitar on the studio versions mean maybe he didn’t know the songs that well.Quote
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georgie48
For a good representation of movie off course poor stuff should be filtered, but apparently Brian's contribution wasn't as bad/poor as often told.
Unfortunately, His Majesty's work on showing what Brian played did point out that Brian's contribution to RnR Circus was horrendous. Even to the extent that you can clearly understand the Stones wanted to sack him -here you are, the wold leading rock band of the day, spending loads of money on a movie project, and there's your guitar player being totally wasted and not being able to play even the most simple guitar chords.
Mathijs
That's entirely possible. But part of being a professional musician is to be somewhat sober when the lights go on...
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Taylor1And if they played it live with that arrangement it would still be nothing without Brian.He should have got a writing credit for it, just like Wyman for JJ Flash.Look how U2 handles their writing credits.Im not saying Keith and Mick haven’t written most of the songs ,but still..Quote
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gastonl74
Here you can see that Brian's contribution is magical! and fundamental!
without Brian's flute that song is nothing
It's a rehearsal...
You know this because...?
They have done many lovely live versions of RT that prove you wrong.
Comparing a rehearsal with a finished studio take is a bit fresh...