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Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: Sighunt ()
Date: July 30, 2020 18:46

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Irix
Contents of CD3:

Steel Wheels Rare Reel

01. Play With Fire (CNE Stadium/Toronto/Sept. 3, 1989)
02. Dead Flowers (CNE Stadium/Toronto/Sept. 3, 1989)
03. Almost Hear You Sigh (Wembley Stadium/London/July 6, 1990)
04. I Just Want To Make Love To You (Wembley Stadium/London/July 6, 1990)
05. Street Fighting Man (Wembley Stadium/London/July 6, 1990)
06. 1989 Interview [Japanese Bonus-Track]

[www.Universal-Music.co.jp]

It is really nice that the Atlantic City 89 gig is finally getting a proper commercial release. I personally have always loved this show. I thought the performance, musicality, and energy level was top notch. IMHO, the Stones delivered great performances on just about every tune they played that day.

My minor gripe with the Rare Reel: I wish they would have dug up a better version of Dead flowers rather than the one from the CNE stadium gig. From memory, this was only their third (?) show into the tour and they sounded pretty tentative as a whole. Otherwise, this is a pretty good package inclusive of the rarities!



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Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: rebelhipi ()
Date: July 30, 2020 20:00

Id love to know which show is used for the Tokyo dvd

Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: slewan ()
Date: July 30, 2020 20:00

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Sighunt
Quote
Irix
Contents of CD3:

Steel Wheels Rare Reel

01. Play With Fire (CNE Stadium/Toronto/Sept. 3, 1989)
02. Dead Flowers (CNE Stadium/Toronto/Sept. 3, 1989)
03. Almost Hear You Sigh (Wembley Stadium/London/July 6, 1990)
04. I Just Want To Make Love To You (Wembley Stadium/London/July 6, 1990)
05. Street Fighting Man (Wembley Stadium/London/July 6, 1990)
06. 1989 Interview [Japanese Bonus-Track]

[www.Universal-Music.co.jp]

It is really nice that the Atlantic City 89 gig is finally getting a proper commercial release. I personally have always loved this show. I thought the performance, musicality, and energy level was top notch. IMHO, the Stones delivered great performances on just about every tune they played that day.

My minor gripe with the Rare Reel: I wish they would have dug up a better version of Dead flowers rather than the one from the CNE stadium gig. From memory, this was only their third (?) show into the tour and they sounded pretty tentative as a whole. Otherwise, this is a pretty good package inclusive of the rarities!

well, we haven't yet heard how the reworked those songs… sad smileyconfused smiley

Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: hockenheim95 ()
Date: July 30, 2020 20:01

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rebelhipi
Id love to know which show is used for the Tokyo dvd

February 24...same as the Japan only release...

source: [www.universal-music.co.jp]



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Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: July 30, 2020 20:04

Finally.

I'll be getting the Bluray 2 record set. I don't need a $75 trucker hat and some shitty tshirt that will fall apart in 2 weeks...

Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: SFTD ()
Date: July 30, 2020 20:42

If that is all that is on CD3, then that's a big disappointment for the deluxe 6 disc set.

I'll take the blu-ray plus 2 CD set at a lot less cost.

Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: ironbelly ()
Date: July 30, 2020 20:42

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hockenheim95
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rebelhipi
Id love to know which show is used for the Tokyo dvd

February 24...same as the Japan only release...

source: [www.universal-music.co.jp]
That is great. But, unfortunately, that concert was not restored. Original Japanese WARD release From The Vault Extra was of average TV quality. It was better than bootleg though.

Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: ironbelly ()
Date: July 30, 2020 20:48

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SFTD
If that is all that is on CD3, then that's a big disappointment for the deluxe 6 disc set.

I'll take the blu-ray plus 2 CD set at a lot less cost.
Currently, in Europe the difference between Bluray/2CD and 6 discs Deluxe is 43-27.5=15.5 EUR at amazon.fr or 50-33=17 EUR at jpc.de
For me Deluxe looks like a better choice in terms of items per EUR.

Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: hockenheim95 ()
Date: July 30, 2020 20:59

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ironbelly
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SFTD
If that is all that is on CD3, then that's a big disappointment for the deluxe 6 disc set.

I'll take the blu-ray plus 2 CD set at a lot less cost.
Currently, in Europe the difference between Bluray/2CD and 6 discs Deluxe is 43-27.5=15.5 EUR at amazon.fr or 50-33=17 EUR at jpc.de
For me Deluxe looks like a better choice in terms of items per EUR.

The price is the only good thing about the 6 disc Version. Come on we get 6(!!!!) discs and in the end we get one concert and as a bonus a concert that's already released some years ago in the same quality and 5 Bonus Songs of which one has already been released. At least they could have released a few more songs on that bonus disc. Does it hurt them? What is their Intention? It can't be quality as they released stuff like Whip from Buenos Aires...

Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: slewan ()
Date: July 30, 2020 21:25

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hockenheim95
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ironbelly
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SFTD
If that is all that is on CD3, then that's a big disappointment for the deluxe 6 disc set.

I'll take the blu-ray plus 2 CD set at a lot less cost.
Currently, in Europe the difference between Bluray/2CD and 6 discs Deluxe is 43-27.5=15.5 EUR at amazon.fr or 50-33=17 EUR at jpc.de
For me Deluxe looks like a better choice in terms of items per EUR.

The price is the only good thing about the 6 disc Version. Come on we get 6(!!!!) discs and in the end we get one concert and as a bonus a concert that's already released some years ago in the same quality and 5 Bonus Songs of which one has already been released. At least they could have released a few more songs on that bonus disc. Does it hurt them? What is their Intention? It can't be quality as they released stuff like Whip from Buenos Aires...

it's even worse – since the bonus show features the same set list (only one song that hasn't been performed at Atlantic City

Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: hockenheim95 ()
Date: July 30, 2020 21:48

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slewan
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hockenheim95
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ironbelly
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SFTD
If that is all that is on CD3, then that's a big disappointment for the deluxe 6 disc set.

I'll take the blu-ray plus 2 CD set at a lot less cost.
Currently, in Europe the difference between Bluray/2CD and 6 discs Deluxe is 43-27.5=15.5 EUR at amazon.fr or 50-33=17 EUR at jpc.de
For me Deluxe looks like a better choice in terms of items per EUR.

The price is the only good thing about the 6 disc Version. Come on we get 6(!!!!) discs and in the end we get one concert and as a bonus a concert that's already released some years ago in the same quality and 5 Bonus Songs of which one has already been released. At least they could have released a few more songs on that bonus disc. Does it hurt them? What is their Intention? It can't be quality as they released stuff like Whip from Buenos Aires...

it's even worse – since the bonus show features the same set list (only one song that hasn't been performed at Atlantic City

Setlist is not my main point. I would prefer a Set with 3 complete shows with the same setlist over this release

Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: GivenToFly15 ()
Date: July 30, 2020 21:54

"Restored from the archive".

Well, let's hope the mix is good.

Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: rebelhipi ()
Date: July 30, 2020 23:45

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ironbelly
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hockenheim95
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rebelhipi
Id love to know which show is used for the Tokyo dvd

February 24...same as the Japan only release...

source: [www.universal-music.co.jp]
That is great. But, unfortunately, that concert was not restored. Original Japanese WARD release From The Vault Extra was of average TV quality. It was better than bootleg though.
Thanks.
its gonna be just the dvd/cd version for me since i already have that Feb 24 show on dvd.

That extra cd of the deluxe edition is not that interesting to pay that much for it

Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: PalaisRoyale ()
Date: July 31, 2020 00:02

Would have liked the whole C.N.E show.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-07-31 00:07 by PalaisRoyale.

Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: ironbelly ()
Date: July 31, 2020 00:59

We got to It sucks too fast. It was not even shipped yet! winking smiley

1. This is going to be the greatest thing ever!
2. I can't wait, look at that tracklisting!
3. Japanese bonus!!!!!!!! Colored vinyl!!!!
4. I have pre-ordered 3 sets! (2 to be kept sealed)
5. It shipped!
6. Even better than I thought it was going to be!
7. It sucks.
8. A missed opportunity.
9. Looking forward to the 60th anniversary set.

Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: artinis1 ()
Date: July 31, 2020 01:23

I like it, will get the deluxe set from Amazon

Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: CaptainCorella ()
Date: July 31, 2020 01:23

Quote
Irix
Contents of CD3:

Steel Wheels Rare Reels

01. Play With Fire (CNE Stadium/Toronto/Sept. 3, 1989)
02. Dead Flowers (CNE Stadium/Toronto/Sept. 3, 1989)
03. Almost Hear You Sigh (Wembley Stadium/London/July 6, 1990)
04. I Just Want To Make Love To You (Wembley Stadium/London/July 6, 1990)
05. Street Fighting Man (Wembley Stadium/London/July 6, 1990)

Yay! I was at each an every one of those shows!

--
Captain Corella
50+ Years a Fan

Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: Lynd8 ()
Date: July 31, 2020 01:31

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CaptainCorella
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Irix
Contents of CD3:

Steel Wheels Rare Reels

01. Play With Fire (CNE Stadium/Toronto/Sept. 3, 1989)
02. Dead Flowers (CNE Stadium/Toronto/Sept. 3, 1989)
03. Almost Hear You Sigh (Wembley Stadium/London/July 6, 1990)
04. I Just Want To Make Love To You (Wembley Stadium/London/July 6, 1990)
05. Street Fighting Man (Wembley Stadium/London/July 6, 1990)

Yay! I was at each an every one of those shows!

sounds like these are not really all that rare - some of them were b-sides from Flashpoint already?

Wikipedia:
Other songs/B-sides and charity single
The following songs were recorded during the same set of concerts and later released as B-sides:

"2000 Light Years from Home" – 3:24 (13 June 1990; Olympic Stadium; Barcelona Spain) – Only released on "Highwire" singles
"Gimme Shelter" – 4:47 (26 November 1989; Death Valley Stadium; Clemson, South Carolina) – Charity single released in 1993
"Harlem Shuffle" (Bob Relf, Ernest Nelson) – 4:35 (27 February 1990; Korakuen Dome; Tokyo, Japan) – Only released on one of the variations of the UK "Ruby Tuesday" single
"I Just Want to Make Love to You" (Dixon) – 3:58 (6 July 1990; Wembley Stadium; London, England) – Only released on "Highwire" singles
"Play with Fire" (Nanker Phelge) – 3:31 (26 November 1989; Death Valley Stadium; Clemson, South Carolina) – Released on "Ruby Tuesday" single
"Street Fighting Man" – 3:43 (25 August 1990; Wembley Stadium; London, England) – Only released on "Jumpin' Jack Flash" Maxi-CD singles
"Tumbling Dice" – 4:12 (24 August 1990; Wembley Stadium; London, England) – Only released on "Jumpin' Jack Flash" singles
"Undercover of the Night" – 3:59 (19 December 1989; Atlantic City Convention Center; Atlantic City, New Jersey) – Released on the "Ruby Tuesday" single

Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: SKILLS ()
Date: July 31, 2020 03:48

[www.youtube.com]

PREVIEW - STEEL WHEELS ATLANTIC CITY

Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: SKILLS ()
Date: July 31, 2020 03:50

Picture looks incredible, sound.... different obviously but sounds a little tinnie too me

Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: jbwelda ()
Date: July 31, 2020 06:29

Lynd8: looks to me like even though the title might have been released already as Flashpoint singles, its not the same night or performance.

But I would expect them to be taken from that weekly Sunday "special" that was going for a while. Guess not though.

jb

Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: bonddm ()
Date: July 31, 2020 09:37

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GivenToFly15
"Restored from the archive".

Well, let's hope the mix is good.
Has it been confirmed as yet who mixed it?

Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: hockenheim95 ()
Date: July 31, 2020 09:57

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bonddm
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GivenToFly15
"Restored from the archive".

Well, let's hope the mix is good.
Has it been confirmed as yet who mixed it?

I think they stopped crediting that with San Jose. That was the point where the mixes really got worse with a sad lowpoint Miami 94. Before it was all Bob Clearmountain.

Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: ironbelly ()
Date: July 31, 2020 12:32

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hockenheim95
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bonddm
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GivenToFly15
"Restored from the archive".

Well, let's hope the mix is good.
Has it been confirmed as yet who mixed it?

I think they stopped crediting that with San Jose. That was the point where the mixes really got worse with a sad lowpoint Miami 94. Before it was all Bob Clearmountain.
Errr...
All booklets for recent 2CD/DVD combos carry credit
Audio mix: Sam Wheat
Audio mastering can be credited differently
Bridges to Buenos Aires, Bridges to Bremen - Mazen Murad
Miami 94, Japanese only Tokyo 95, No Security San Jose 99 - Tim Young



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Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: July 31, 2020 12:44

When Atlantic City '89 was rebroadcasted on VH1 the mix by Bob Clearmountain was great! Bob was in the credits at the end.

Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: GivenToFly15 ()
Date: July 31, 2020 13:41

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exilestones
When Atlantic City '89 was rebroadcasted on VH1 the mix by Bob Clearmountain was great! Bob was in the credits at the end.

Is there a bootleg documenting this rebroadcast? It seems to me the infamous TSP bootleg is far from a great mix (loud crowd noise).

EDIT: after a search in the forum, here's a lot of answers to my question.



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Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: UrbanSteel ()
Date: July 31, 2020 14:21

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ironbelly
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hockenheim95
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bonddm
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GivenToFly15
"Restored from the archive".

Well, let's hope the mix is good.
Has it been confirmed as yet who mixed it?

I think they stopped crediting that with San Jose. That was the point where the mixes really got worse with a sad lowpoint Miami 94. Before it was all Bob Clearmountain.
Errr...
All booklets for recent 2CD/DVD combos carry credit
Audio mix: Sam Wheat
Audio mastering can be credited differently
Bridges to Buenos Aires, Bridges to Bremen - Mazen Murad
Miami 94, Japanese only Tokyo 95, No Security San Jose 99 - Tim Young

LA Forum 75

DVD Stereo & 5.1 Mix: Sam Wheat Of Metropolis Studios
DVD Stereo & 5.1 Mastering: Mazen Murad Of Metropolis Studios
CD Audio Mastered By Stephnen Marcussen

Ward REcords:
Toyo Kasei Press Made in Japan 4-disc LP record (Bob Clear Mountain remixes the delivered sound source newly for this LP record)

Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: bonddm ()
Date: July 31, 2020 15:41

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hockenheim95
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bonddm
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GivenToFly15
"Restored from the archive".

Well, let's hope the mix is good.
Has it been confirmed as yet who mixed it?

I think they stopped crediting that with San Jose. That was the point where the mixes really got worse with a sad lowpoint Miami 94. Before it was all Bob Clearmountain.

I’m hoping there’s a chance that Clearmountain came back for this one, considering he mixed the live disc on Honk.



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Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: PalaisRoyale ()
Date: July 31, 2020 16:51

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hockenheim95
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rebelhipi
Id love to know which show is used for the Tokyo dvd

February 24...same as the Japan only release...

source: [www.universal-music.co.jp]

So not the same concert From the Vault release Tokyo Dome?

Re: New Bluray / Atlántic City 89
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: July 31, 2020 17:20

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PalaisRoyale

So not the same concert From the Vault release Tokyo Dome?

No, that was 26-Feb-1990 - [en.Wikipedia.org] , [TimeIsOnOurSide.com] , [NZentgraf.de] - (2015).

From The Vault Extra - Live in Japan - Tokyo Dome is 24-Feb-1990 - [www.Discogs.com] .

But the Setlists are identical.



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