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A huge bonus since 2012 and we were so blessed. I don't know what to say about hoping for more. It hasn't felt the same to me without Charlie.
This is very true. Which is why, I am so happy that I was there ....
[ I want to shout, but I can hardly speak ]
If they replace Charlie they can replace Ron Wood. When Keith Richards or Mick Jagger quits , it's over.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-04-17 19:10 by TheflyingDutchman.
I am in your camp on this. I really wish the Stones would put their energy into creating a better legacy experience for the fans. IE: reworking any live or demo tracks for release, be active and connect on a "Stones" XM channel, tell the story from their perspective, merchandise input, etc..
The world would have endless opportunities for them outside of touring.
No, Mick would be totally bored by his own past.
Thank you.
I understand. And I do understand Mick's point of view. That's well known. But let's not forget; there's money and oppertunities to release some "old" stuff. I think many fans would love some unreleased things from the past. For example: the Exile reissue and boxset in 2009 or 2010. Awesome stuff and that was a smart move!!
A new album is fun, but totally unnecessary IMHO. Let's be honest about this; we prefer those older songs instead of forced repeating riffs and a Jagger who wants to be relevant all the time these days. But hey, this is me. Don't shoot. :-)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-04-18 01:39 by DiamondDog7.
I agree totally. They will be back in US nextJune maybe go SA, Mexico & Oz in Dec
for very short tour.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-04-18 10:13 by babyblue.
Stephen Wyman retired from the group, and refuses to return. They considered expanding it to "And Daughters Too", but Chloe and Emma Taylor can't be found, and
Seraphina Watts only wants to play to Charlie Parker records. Brian's five illegitimate children have no interest. That leaves only three slots and everyone know only 3 does not warrant calling the group The Stones.
what are you talking about? Mick all by himself has enough children to put 2 versions of the band together!
I think they are saying they're done as a touring act, at their ages the odds of them all being fit enough to tour next year stack up against them.
They haven't actually said they will tour again officially have they, we get rumours from insiders to keep interest going here.
Mick allegedly couldn't perform this summer because of an ankle injury, Ronnie has had challenges that could return as we all know, Keith seems content to spend the remainder of his life in private.
I think if we do see them live it's possible as individuals they will perform one off shows from time to time with other musicians for charity or tribute shows, guest appearances etc, unfortunately the chances of all three of them being fit at the same time for future tours next year and beyond are highly unlikely.
If they really wanted to tour this year they wouldn't need to play in NFL stadiums, they could do 6 nights at the Royal Albert Hall and 6 nights in Vegas, there are countless places all over the world they could play to promote the new album, just saying.
I mostly agree with that as their last big hit was "Start me up".
you raise some valid points put i think there's probably a better chance then naught that they'll perform again as a band and likely tour
mick doesn't strike me as someone whose gonna let himself get out of shape whether or not he's 80 or going on tour
physical fitness seems to be a point of personal pride for him i don't see that changing in a year
we all know ronnie's hopefully no longer recurrent health issues but he did just perform a whole show and has yet another live appearance coming up soon so he seems to be in alright shape at the moment and he still desires to be out there performing
i used to think around 2017 2018 that keith was on his last legs but then he quit drinking and smoking and wow was he great last summer
so it would seem he's trying to take better care of himself now and that gives me hope that he still wants to be out there and will put effort into keeping himself in good shape
i know there very old and that at there age a year is a long time but i think it's not incredibly unlikely they'll never perform or tour again
that and the "patience please" message from them seems to signal they've got something more up there sleeves
So… the last 20 years of shows have been a mirage?
Rod
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Re: The Rolling Stones and their future
Posted by:
steffialicia
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Date: April 17, 2023 14:21
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Topi
I never saw them doing this past 80, but hope to God I'm wrong.
As it's often been said, just about everything they have done since 2012 has been a bonus.
A huge bonus since 2012 and we were so blessed. I don't know what to say about hoping for more. It hasn't felt the same to me without Charlie.
Re: The Rolling Stones and their future
Posted by:
paulywaul
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Date: April 17, 2023 16:29
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hockenheim95Quote
ribbelchips
I always was a little afraid of this scenario. But that's the risk when you decide to 'just see where it goes'..
I personally had hoped that they had given a couple of farewell concerts across the globe and then called it a day. But apparently they thought that wasn't the 'rock and roll' way. And of course there is something to be said for that..
But hey, this is the Stones. I wouldn't be surprised if there will be another tour in the near future.
God blese them if we'll never ever see a farewell Show. This would be the worst scenario for me. I would love to see them on stage again but If Berlin was the last show it was a wonderful last show. Much better than the Casino gig the year before. But the chances Berlin was the last show are now higher than for any other show before. It could be real but we'll never know.
This is very true. Which is why, I am so happy that I was there ....
[ I want to shout, but I can hardly speak ]
Re: The Rolling Stones and their future
Posted by:
jackflash27
()
Date: April 17, 2023 16:54
When Mick, Keith and Ron stay healthy, I'm sure there will be more shows. I can't believe Berlin was the last one. I have no doubts about Mick, he's very fit and even an 'injury' can't stop him from touring. Even a break of one or two years won't stop him off. Keith and Ron are probably more of a risk, health wise. The rest of the band will be replaceable if something happens, even Darryl and Chuck.
Probably debated in other topics, but the following question comes to mind: what if something should happen with Ron? Will they continue touring? It's a bit of a sensitive topic, because you don't want to think or anticipate to those things. But still an interesting question.
Probably debated in other topics, but the following question comes to mind: what if something should happen with Ron? Will they continue touring? It's a bit of a sensitive topic, because you don't want to think or anticipate to those things. But still an interesting question.
Re: The Rolling Stones and their future
Posted by:
TheflyingDutchman
()
Date: April 17, 2023 19:08
Quote
jackflash27
When Mick, Keith and Ron stay healthy, I'm sure there will be more shows. I can't believe Berlin was the last one. I have no doubts about Mick, he's very fit and even an 'injury' can't stop him from touring. Even a break of one or two years won't stop him off. Keith and Ron are probably more of a risk, health wise. The rest of the band will be replaceable if something happens, even Darryl and Chuck.
Probably debated in other topics, but the following question comes to mind: what if something should happen with Ron? Will they continue touring? It's a bit of a sensitive topic, because you don't want to think or anticipate to those things. But still an interesting question.
If they replace Charlie they can replace Ron Wood. When Keith Richards or Mick Jagger quits , it's over.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-04-17 19:10 by TheflyingDutchman.
Re: The Rolling Stones and their future
Posted by:
NilsHolgersson
()
Date: April 17, 2023 19:19
Yes, after they replaced Charlie I think Ronnie is definitely replaceable. I always thought they could easily swap him for Jeff Beck since they looked almost identical. Well, not anymore ofcourse. But it would look a bit sad.. just Mick & Keith and touring band members.. but people would still buy tickets for the shows. It's still "The Rolling Stones".
Anyway, I think people here a bit too pessimistic. "The Stones are over...". Well, we thought that in 2009, 2010 when nothing was happening. We thought it when Mick had heart surgery, no way he would be able to perform on a high energy level anymore. We thought it when the covid pandemic happened and concert shows were not in sight anymore. We thought it when Charlie died. Now, it's "just" an injury and logistical problems. The Stones facebook says "patience please". Mick Jagger's TikTok just posted a video of him performing and saying he loves to do this everyday. I'm confident the Stones will be back, sooner or later.
Anyway, I think people here a bit too pessimistic. "The Stones are over...". Well, we thought that in 2009, 2010 when nothing was happening. We thought it when Mick had heart surgery, no way he would be able to perform on a high energy level anymore. We thought it when the covid pandemic happened and concert shows were not in sight anymore. We thought it when Charlie died. Now, it's "just" an injury and logistical problems. The Stones facebook says "patience please". Mick Jagger's TikTok just posted a video of him performing and saying he loves to do this everyday. I'm confident the Stones will be back, sooner or later.
Re: The Rolling Stones and their future
Posted by:
NashvilleBlues
()
Date: April 17, 2023 20:10
I'm optimistic. They're not done till they say they are.
Re: Stones done?
Posted by:
timmyj3
()
Date: April 17, 2023 20:33
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DiamondDog7
I love the Stones. But I think I'm one of the few who DON'T want to hear or care for a new album by the Stones! Another KR riff, another 'forced' MJ vocals, mediocre lyrics, no Charlie etc etc...All these elements on a new album? No, I pass.
We're blessed with all those magical albums like Sticky Fingers, Exile, Beggars, Some Girls. I'll stay with these golden nuggets.
I prefer albums (live albums, deluxe editions) from the Vault instead of a new album!
I am in your camp on this. I really wish the Stones would put their energy into creating a better legacy experience for the fans. IE: reworking any live or demo tracks for release, be active and connect on a "Stones" XM channel, tell the story from their perspective, merchandise input, etc..
The world would have endless opportunities for them outside of touring.
Re: Stones done?
Posted by:
NilsHolgersson
()
Date: April 17, 2023 20:53
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timmyj3Quote
DiamondDog7
I love the Stones. But I think I'm one of the few who DON'T want to hear or care for a new album by the Stones! Another KR riff, another 'forced' MJ vocals, mediocre lyrics, no Charlie etc etc...All these elements on a new album? No, I pass.
We're blessed with all those magical albums like Sticky Fingers, Exile, Beggars, Some Girls. I'll stay with these golden nuggets.
I prefer albums (live albums, deluxe editions) from the Vault instead of a new album!
I am in your camp on this. I really wish the Stones would put their energy into creating a better legacy experience for the fans. IE: reworking any live or demo tracks for release, be active and connect on a "Stones" XM channel, tell the story from their perspective, merchandise input, etc..
The world would have endless opportunities for them outside of touring.
No, Mick would be totally bored by his own past.
Re: The Rolling Stones and their future
Posted by:
Kurt
()
Date: April 17, 2023 22:56
For me, it's rather bittersweet news of the tour being off this year.
Not really interested in seeing anyone "die onstage doing what they love."
I hope Mick, Keith and Ronnie stay happy and healthy and spend as much quality time with their families as life affords.
Even without a tour, they will never be forgotten.
Not really interested in seeing anyone "die onstage doing what they love."
I hope Mick, Keith and Ronnie stay happy and healthy and spend as much quality time with their families as life affords.
Even without a tour, they will never be forgotten.
Re: The Rolling Stones and their future
Posted by:
24FPS
()
Date: April 17, 2023 23:30
Quote
NilsHolgersson
Yes, after they replaced Charlie I think Ronnie is definitely replaceable. I always thought they could easily swap him for Jeff Beck since they looked almost identical. Well, not anymore ofcourse. But it would look a bit sad.. just Mick & Keith and touring band members.. but people would still buy tickets for the shows. It's still "The Rolling Stones".
Yeah, but that's a bit disingenuous. Brian Wilson does Beach Boys songs but doesn't tour as the Beach Boys. Do you really think Mick and Keith could get away with calling themselves the Rolling Stones? They've lost sixty percent of the band. They survived Bill leaving, but went a step down. With Charlie gone it doesn't even feel like the same band. Ronnie does a heck of a lot more guitar playing than Keith these days. He's all over Blue and Lonesome. I'm not sure you could just plug and play another guitar slinger in Ronnie's place at this point. Maybe. Fans aren't too aware.
Re: Stones done?
Posted by:
DiamondDog7
()
Date: April 18, 2023 01:19
Quote
timmyj3Quote
DiamondDog7
I love the Stones. But I think I'm one of the few who DON'T want to hear or care for a new album by the Stones! Another KR riff, another 'forced' MJ vocals, mediocre lyrics, no Charlie etc etc...All these elements on a new album? No, I pass.
We're blessed with all those magical albums like Sticky Fingers, Exile, Beggars, Some Girls. I'll stay with these golden nuggets.
I prefer albums (live albums, deluxe editions) from the Vault instead of a new album!
I am in your camp on this. I really wish the Stones would put their energy into creating a better legacy experience for the fans. IE: reworking any live or demo tracks for release, be active and connect on a "Stones" XM channel, tell the story from their perspective, merchandise input, etc..
The world would have endless opportunities for them outside of touring.
Thank you.
Re: Stones done?
Posted by:
DiamondDog7
()
Date: April 18, 2023 01:24
Quote
NilsHolgerssonQuote
timmyj3Quote
DiamondDog7
I love the Stones. But I think I'm one of the few who DON'T want to hear or care for a new album by the Stones! Another KR riff, another 'forced' MJ vocals, mediocre lyrics, no Charlie etc etc...All these elements on a new album? No, I pass.
We're blessed with all those magical albums like Sticky Fingers, Exile, Beggars, Some Girls. I'll stay with these golden nuggets.
I prefer albums (live albums, deluxe editions) from the Vault instead of a new album!
I am in your camp on this. I really wish the Stones would put their energy into creating a better legacy experience for the fans. IE: reworking any live or demo tracks for release, be active and connect on a "Stones" XM channel, tell the story from their perspective, merchandise input, etc..
The world would have endless opportunities for them outside of touring.
No, Mick would be totally bored by his own past.
I understand. And I do understand Mick's point of view. That's well known. But let's not forget; there's money and oppertunities to release some "old" stuff. I think many fans would love some unreleased things from the past. For example: the Exile reissue and boxset in 2009 or 2010. Awesome stuff and that was a smart move!!
A new album is fun, but totally unnecessary IMHO. Let's be honest about this; we prefer those older songs instead of forced repeating riffs and a Jagger who wants to be relevant all the time these days. But hey, this is me. Don't shoot. :-)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-04-18 01:39 by DiamondDog7.
Re: The Rolling Stones and their future
Posted by:
Witness
()
Date: April 18, 2023 05:28
Apparently, the surviving Rolling Stones have during some years been motivated to make another studio album.
Based on that fact, I for one, but it seems that I am not alone, want more than anything else Rolling Stones related to receive a Rolling Stones studio album of songs and music out of song ideas from largely the latest decade.
I have to admit, the wait has been so long that I have now given up hope to obtain such an album. For all the time, there are new delays. However, it is still my wish.
Based on that fact, I for one, but it seems that I am not alone, want more than anything else Rolling Stones related to receive a Rolling Stones studio album of songs and music out of song ideas from largely the latest decade.
I have to admit, the wait has been so long that I have now given up hope to obtain such an album. For all the time, there are new delays. However, it is still my wish.
Re: The Rolling Stones and their future
Posted by:
babyblue
()
Date: April 18, 2023 10:11
Quote
NashvilleBlues
I'm optimistic. They're not done till they say they are.
I agree totally. They will be back in US nextJune maybe go SA, Mexico & Oz in Dec
for very short tour.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-04-18 10:13 by babyblue.
Re: The Rolling Stones and their future
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: April 18, 2023 10:30
Thats it guys ... Keef The Faith .....
ROCKMAN
ROCKMAN
Re: The Rolling Stones and their future
Posted by:
Topi
()
Date: April 18, 2023 10:33
Yup - and let Macca's guiding light guide us in the meantime, eh? 
Re: The Rolling Stones and their future
Posted by:
doitywoik
()
Date: April 18, 2023 22:49
Yeah, make him the bassist and rename the band as The Stoatles ...
Re: The Rolling Stones and their future
Posted by:
VoodooLounge13
()
Date: April 18, 2023 23:39
I like The Beaten Stones
Re: The Rolling Stones and their future
Posted by:
Testify
()
Date: April 19, 2023 22:03
I was intrigued by the title of this topic, I still wish them 80 years, but I really believe that today they are taking one day at a time, as it should be.
Personally I think that if by chance one of the three were no longer available, they would not continue, not because they are not replaceable, I think it was difficult for them to replace Charlie, but in that case they were already on tour, then they found themselves comfortable with Steve being brought in on Charlie's advice, so they've decided to carry on a little longer, but we mustn't forget their chronological age.
Personally I think that if by chance one of the three were no longer available, they would not continue, not because they are not replaceable, I think it was difficult for them to replace Charlie, but in that case they were already on tour, then they found themselves comfortable with Steve being brought in on Charlie's advice, so they've decided to carry on a little longer, but we mustn't forget their chronological age.
Re: The Rolling Stones and their future
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: April 22, 2023 17:05
Is it too early to revive the "Sons of Stones" replacement theory?
Re: The Rolling Stones and their future
Posted by:
24FPS
()
Date: April 22, 2023 23:43
Quote
treaclefingers
Is it too early to revive the "Sons of Stones" replacement theory?
Stephen Wyman retired from the group, and refuses to return. They considered expanding it to "And Daughters Too", but Chloe and Emma Taylor can't be found, and
Seraphina Watts only wants to play to Charlie Parker records. Brian's five illegitimate children have no interest. That leaves only three slots and everyone know only 3 does not warrant calling the group The Stones.
Re: The Rolling Stones and their future
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: April 23, 2023 00:19
Quote
24FPSQuote
treaclefingers
Is it too early to revive the "Sons of Stones" replacement theory?
Stephen Wyman retired from the group, and refuses to return. They considered expanding it to "And Daughters Too", but Chloe and Emma Taylor can't be found, and
Seraphina Watts only wants to play to Charlie Parker records. Brian's five illegitimate children have no interest. That leaves only three slots and everyone know only 3 does not warrant calling the group The Stones.
what are you talking about? Mick all by himself has enough children to put 2 versions of the band together!
Re: The Rolling Stones and their future
Posted by:
keefriffhards
()
Date: April 23, 2023 12:11
Quote
NashvilleBlues
I'm optimistic. They're not done till they say they are.
I think they are saying they're done as a touring act, at their ages the odds of them all being fit enough to tour next year stack up against them.
They haven't actually said they will tour again officially have they, we get rumours from insiders to keep interest going here.
Mick allegedly couldn't perform this summer because of an ankle injury, Ronnie has had challenges that could return as we all know, Keith seems content to spend the remainder of his life in private.
I think if we do see them live it's possible as individuals they will perform one off shows from time to time with other musicians for charity or tribute shows, guest appearances etc, unfortunately the chances of all three of them being fit at the same time for future tours next year and beyond are highly unlikely.
If they really wanted to tour this year they wouldn't need to play in NFL stadiums, they could do 6 nights at the Royal Albert Hall and 6 nights in Vegas, there are countless places all over the world they could play to promote the new album, just saying.
Re: The Rolling Stones and their future
Posted by:
Bjorn
()
Date: April 23, 2023 12:58
Agree 100% Riffhards. Where there´s a will, there´s a way...
Re: The Rolling Stones and their future
Posted by:
Stoneage
()
Date: April 23, 2023 13:12
In a way they have had their future behind them ever since the comeback in 1989. Since then they have been a band more of the past than the future.
Their music really mattered in the late sixties and the seventies - it hasn't since. Whatever they do now is not a hanging matter anymore.
Except for the hard core fans maybe...
Their music really mattered in the late sixties and the seventies - it hasn't since. Whatever they do now is not a hanging matter anymore.
Except for the hard core fans maybe...
Re: The Rolling Stones and their future
Posted by:
ds1984
()
Date: April 23, 2023 13:55
Quote
Stoneage
In a way they have had their future behind them ever since the comeback in 1989. Since then they have been a band more of the past than the future.
Their music really mattered in the late sixties and the seventies - it hasn't since. Whatever they do now is not a hanging matter anymore.
Except for the hard core fans maybe...
I mostly agree with that as their last big hit was "Start me up".
Re: The Rolling Stones and their future
Posted by:
ProfessorWolf
()
Date: April 23, 2023 14:18
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keefriffhardsQuote
NashvilleBlues
I'm optimistic. They're not done till they say they are.
I think they are saying they're done as a touring act, at their ages the odds of them all being fit enough to tour next year stack up against them.
They haven't actually said they will tour again officially have they, we get rumours from insiders to keep interest going here.
Mick allegedly couldn't perform this summer because of an ankle injury, Ronnie has had challenges that could return as we all know, Keith seems content to spend the remainder of his life in private.
I think if we do see them live it's possible as individuals they will perform one off shows from time to time with other musicians for charity or tribute shows, guest appearances etc, unfortunately the chances of all three of them being fit at the same time for future tours next year and beyond are highly unlikely.
If they really wanted to tour this year they wouldn't need to play in NFL stadiums, they could do 6 nights at the Royal Albert Hall and 6 nights in Vegas, there are countless places all over the world they could play to promote the new album, just saying.
you raise some valid points put i think there's probably a better chance then naught that they'll perform again as a band and likely tour
mick doesn't strike me as someone whose gonna let himself get out of shape whether or not he's 80 or going on tour
physical fitness seems to be a point of personal pride for him i don't see that changing in a year
we all know ronnie's hopefully no longer recurrent health issues but he did just perform a whole show and has yet another live appearance coming up soon so he seems to be in alright shape at the moment and he still desires to be out there performing
i used to think around 2017 2018 that keith was on his last legs but then he quit drinking and smoking and wow was he great last summer
so it would seem he's trying to take better care of himself now and that gives me hope that he still wants to be out there and will put effort into keeping himself in good shape
i know there very old and that at there age a year is a long time but i think it's not incredibly unlikely they'll never perform or tour again
that and the "patience please" message from them seems to signal they've got something more up there sleeves
Re: Stones done?
Posted by:
bitusa2012
()
Date: April 23, 2023 15:07
Quote
NilsHolgerssonQuote
timmyj3Quote
DiamondDog7
I love the Stones. But I think I'm one of the few who DON'T want to hear or care for a new album by the Stones! Another KR riff, another 'forced' MJ vocals, mediocre lyrics, no Charlie etc etc...All these elements on a new album? No, I pass.
We're blessed with all those magical albums like Sticky Fingers, Exile, Beggars, Some Girls. I'll stay with these golden nuggets.
I prefer albums (live albums, deluxe editions) from the Vault instead of a new album!
I am in your camp on this. I really wish the Stones would put their energy into creating a better legacy experience for the fans. IE: reworking any live or demo tracks for release, be active and connect on a "Stones" XM channel, tell the story from their perspective, merchandise input, etc..
The world would have endless opportunities for them outside of touring.
No, Mick would be totally bored by his own past.
So… the last 20 years of shows have been a mirage?
Rod
Re: The Rolling Stones and their future
Posted by:
bv
()
Date: April 23, 2023 17:01
If you do not want another Stones album, then feel free not to buy it, not to listen to it, simply ignore it. Meanwhile, I am sure thousands probably millions others do care, and will for sure listen to it.
The Stones have most of their career in the past, naturally. They do not need a future. When you are 80 or so years old, nobody should expect new tours, new albums or other works from you. The Stones have given us 60 years of music already, live and recorded. I am happy with these past 60 years, anything else from no on, in fact since 2012, has been a true bonus.
Bjornulf
The Stones have most of their career in the past, naturally. They do not need a future. When you are 80 or so years old, nobody should expect new tours, new albums or other works from you. The Stones have given us 60 years of music already, live and recorded. I am happy with these past 60 years, anything else from no on, in fact since 2012, has been a true bonus.
Bjornulf
Re: The Rolling Stones and their future
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: April 23, 2023 17:43
There are not many on this board who could have fathomed that we'd be here, 11 years after the 50th Anniversary tour, still waiting on yet another tour and a new album amidst the myriad of health scares and the death of a very central member.
There are not too many things in life you can count on for 60 years, no appliance, car, friend, spouse, even family member and yet we expect the Rolling Stones to just keep delivering, which to this point they have.
I think it's time to maybe lower our expectations a little bit and enjoy things for what they are.
There are not too many things in life you can count on for 60 years, no appliance, car, friend, spouse, even family member and yet we expect the Rolling Stones to just keep delivering, which to this point they have.
I think it's time to maybe lower our expectations a little bit and enjoy things for what they are.
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