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exhpart
Another band that leaves me cold. Them and Floyd
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ukcal
Confirmed UK Arena tour 10 dates Nov/Dec 2020 collins/banks/rutherford and nic collins on drums (son of Phil) no hackett or gaberiel so a money grab at best
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keefriff99
It's going to be very awkward when they do the song I Can't Dance with Phil sitting in a chair...and I'm really not even making a tasteless joke. It'll be a little weird, but I'm sure Phil will have a sense of humor about it.
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ukcal
Confirmed UK Arena tour 10 dates Nov/Dec 2020 collins/banks/rutherford and nic collins on drums (son of Phil) no hackett or gaberiel so a money grab at best
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RollingFreak
Would kill to see an original Genesis reunion. I get it that this one had more success, and probably more staying power than the other stuff from the 70s, but to me the ONLY Genesis is those 5 guys in the Peter Gabriel lineup. Its like how DLR Van Halen is the only Van Halen to me. It was disappointing in 2007 when it was just those 3, as they tried to do all 5 and just couldn't get Peter on board. Peter is very much the Rod Stewart of Genesis, with less teasing. Sad to see its the same situation again. Does seem incredibly strange they'd do this now. I know Phil just toured but he's literally in a chair the whole show, even if his voice sounds great. I'l love an original Genesis tour with Phil in a chair and his son on drums. This, to me, feels very forced.
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keefriff99
Can anyone explain why Phil Collins has been a punching bag for the last 20-30 years?
I mean, I'm not a huge fan of his, but it seems like a lot of people HATE his music with a passion.
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Send It To me
Disabled people aren't embarrassing, they're just disabled. He can still sing.
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keefriff99
Can anyone explain why Phil Collins has been a punching bag for the last 20-30 years?
I mean, I'm not a huge fan of his, but it seems like a lot of people HATE his music with a passion.
I wasn't alive at the time, but just to guess from everything I've read and followed, its that he just had MASSIVE singles in the 80s that people kinda just got sick of him. Coupled with the fact that Genesis drastically changed their sound, and I guess since he was the frontman he could kinda be seen as leading that charge (even though it was very much a band decision), I can understand why at a certain point people were like "ENOUGH Phil Collins."
If I'm wrong, I'd also love to hear the real reason. Cause there are some people that really do @#$%& hate him and I have no idea why. Back in the old days of Genesis, he was a GREAT drummer. Definitely underrated. Nothing mindblowing, but incredible solid and did some really inventive things with the weird music they were playing. He was as much a part of that band as anyone else. And then his great harmonies, and subsequent lead voice were excellent. Its insane how they lose Peter and just have Phil sing who sounds basically exactly like Peter. He saved that band, and props to him cause he really didn't want to be thrust in the spotlight and took it well. Also from everything I've seen, the guy has a great sense of humor, is really down to earth, and just incredibly talented, from his Broadway stuff like Tarzan to his very successful solo albums which aren't my thing but did him well. I know people got annoyed when he played drums at the Led Zeppelin reunion at Live Aid but again, not really his fault. He's filling in and did the best he could. Traveled across the ocean to do it on the same day.
I have no idea why people hate him. He seems like, of the people in Genesis, by far the one that would be coolest to hang with and be friends with. Seems just like an honest to god good guy, with a boatload of talent that he's incredibly humble about.
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keefriff99
Can anyone explain why Phil Collins has been a punching bag for the last 20-30 years?
I mean, I'm not a huge fan of his, but it seems like a lot of people HATE his music with a passion.
I wasn't alive at the time, but just to guess from everything I've read and followed, its that he just had MASSIVE singles in the 80s that people kinda just got sick of him. Coupled with the fact that Genesis drastically changed their sound, and I guess since he was the frontman he could kinda be seen as leading that charge (even though it was very much a band decision), I can understand why at a certain point people were like "ENOUGH Phil Collins."
If I'm wrong, I'd also love to hear the real reason. Cause there are some people that really do @#$%& hate him and I have no idea why. Back in the old days of Genesis, he was a GREAT drummer. Definitely underrated. Nothing mindblowing, but incredible solid and did some really inventive things with the weird music they were playing. He was as much a part of that band as anyone else. And then his great harmonies, and subsequent lead voice were excellent. Its insane how they lose Peter and just have Phil sing who sounds basically exactly like Peter. He saved that band, and props to him cause he really didn't want to be thrust in the spotlight and took it well. Also from everything I've seen, the guy has a great sense of humor, is really down to earth, and just incredibly talented, from his Broadway stuff like Tarzan to his very successful solo albums which aren't my thing but did him well. I know people got annoyed when he played drums at the Led Zeppelin reunion at Live Aid but again, not really his fault. He's filling in and did the best he could. Traveled across the ocean to do it on the same day.
I have no idea why people hate him. He seems like, of the people in Genesis, by far the one that would be coolest to hang with and be friends with. Seems just like an honest to god good guy, with a boatload of talent that he's incredibly humble about.