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bv
We are learning more about the corona virus disease covid-19 every week every month now. There are in fact 200 or more countries/areas in the world now with different approaches. Some are slow, some are fast. Some are small, like Iceland, some are large, like China, India and USA. Some live by a democratic rule set, others have authoritative rules and regulations.
By learning, acting and making the best out of what we all do experience, I am sure we will get through this virus nightmare in a great way. Sure we will have 12-18 months of exceptional life, probably way into 2021, but our leaders and our experts will find ways to contain and control the virus, so that we can keep the economy and our lives going without too much damage. I don't think we will have any sports, music or cultural crowds 50+ any place any time this year, and holiday travel may be history for a while, but this is not the end of the world.
When people and countries stop fighting about who to blame and what went wrong, but rather work and cooperate with solutions, also globally, not just thinking of themselves, then I am sure we will see many great new innovations in the time to come.
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In a show of leadership seldom demonstrated, Jacinda Ardern, PM of New Zealand responded to concerns expressed by children by signing a proclamation declaring the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy to be essential workers. Full props to her for realizing that kids need this kind of assurance or normalcy during a crisis, and not being afraid to sweat the small stuff to deliver that assurance. (Oh, they’re also flattening the curve like crazy... this is in addition to the big stuff, not instead of it...)
[www.washingtonpost.com]
She is a real leader--I've admired her ever since seeing her handling of the mosque killings.
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In a show of leadership seldom demonstrated, Jacinda Ardern, PM of New Zealand responded to concerns expressed by children by signing a proclamation declaring the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy to be essential workers. Full props to her for realizing that kids need this kind of assurance or normalcy during a crisis, and not being afraid to sweat the small stuff to deliver that assurance. (Oh, they’re also flattening the curve like crazy... this is in addition to the big stuff, not instead of it...)
[www.washingtonpost.com]
She is a real leader--I've admired her ever since seeing her handling of the mosque killings.
Yes our NZ prime minister certainly is very good at self promotion. There were calls to shut our border weeks before she did but she was hell bent on having a one year memorial for the mosque shooting with all the bigwigs from the world media in attendance first. She was even promoting crowd gatherings and hand shaking. In the end she was forced to cancel the commemoration one day before it was due to take place due to pressure from the people to ban large gatherings and shut the border, but still managed some media coverage of her dressed in a headscarve. Being an Island if we had acted when we should have we likely wouldn't be in lockdown now with the economic carnage it is causing. Vast majority of our cases came from travellers. So yea, great prime minister whos main ambition is a seat on the UN and will do anything to get there. We need more substance than hugs and fairytales.
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In a show of leadership seldom demonstrated, Jacinda Ardern, PM of New Zealand responded to concerns expressed by children by signing a proclamation declaring the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy to be essential workers. Full props to her for realizing that kids need this kind of assurance or normalcy during a crisis, and not being afraid to sweat the small stuff to deliver that assurance. (Oh, they’re also flattening the curve like crazy... this is in addition to the big stuff, not instead of it...)
[www.washingtonpost.com]
She is a real leader--I've admired her ever since seeing her handling of the mosque killings.
Yes our NZ prime minister certainly is very good at self promotion. There were calls to shut our border weeks before she did but she was hell bent on having a one year memorial for the mosque shooting with all the bigwigs from the world media in attendance first. She was even promoting crowd gatherings and hand shaking. In the end she was forced to cancel the commemoration one day before it was due to take place due to pressure from the people to ban large gatherings and shut the border, but still managed some media coverage of her dressed in a headscarve. Being an Island if we had acted when we should have we likely wouldn't be in lockdown now with the economic carnage it is causing. Vast majority of our cases came from travellers. So yea, great prime minister whos main ambition is a seat on the UN and will do anything to get there. We need more substance than hugs and fairytales.
I stand corrected but I still admire her handling of the mosque killings.
All the best to everyone in your island nation.
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jlowe
Whist people in some countries seem to be preparing exit strategies on the belief that their 'peak' has passed, spare a thought for Singapore who were one of the first countries affected by the virus. They have not gone into full lockout but early on put in some very practical measures eg travel restrictions.
BUT check the figures of new daily cases:
From 16 March:
17/23/47/32//47/23/54/49/73/52/49/70/42/47/74/49/65/75/120/66.
Fortunately the figure for Deaths is at 6. The city has a good health system (if you can afford the cover). Obviously...and I hope this applies everywhere.. ones individual finances are not a factor.
So, they recorded their highest figure last Sunday (120).
Only four of those infected have had recent travel history.
I would be wary in putting to much store by some of the predictions. The latest figure for deaths in the UK is a range from 7000 to 20000. Hedge betting analysis is the new norm.
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bv
Singapore are taking immediate action as they see new coronavirus cases are coming in from abroad. They do not trust people to self-quarantine:
SINGAPORE - From 11.59pm on Thursday (April 9), all travellers returning to Singapore from overseas will have to serve their 14-day stay-home notice (SHN) at dedicated facilities instead of in their homes.
The Ministry of Health announced on Wednesday that the rule has now been extended to all Singaporeans, permanent residents and long-term pass holders regardless of the country they are coming from.
All returnees are transported straight from the airport to the hotels. There, they have their own rooms and toilets, and all meals are provided, so that they can be isolated from others.
Coronavirus: All returning travellers to serve stay-home notice at dedicated facilities (The Straits Times Singapore - 08-Apr-2020)
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mikey C
Here in The Czech Republic....They just extended the Quarantine to April 30th...They have taken very good measures here from the start and it's working...Everyone wear's a mask and the large majority of the people are staying home....You can go for walk's,Jogging,Biking,shopping but no more then 2 people....Alcohol sales are up 30% Which is a lot for a country that does drink a lot....Stay safe Everyone.....Sad to hear of John Prine Passing...Peace
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jlowe
Whilst Governments are mulling over Exit strategies, the private sector are making plans of their own.
UK holiday and flights operator Jet 2 have a announced they plan to recommence business from mid June.
I personally wouldn't put any money on it.
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Chris Fountain
Administration going after W.H.O.
I want none of my tax money going to these Chinese backing thugs.
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Chris Fountain
Unfortunately, My post was misinterpreted Again I feel at this time my tax money could be of better use than supporting an organization involved in a possible cover-up. As more facts are revealed, it is apparent that the Chinese were not forthcoming in their news. The WHO provided insufficient oversight.
Why is President Trump always brought up? I never mentioned his name.This is no time for politics - I'm tired of folks hating President Trump. If anyone can do a better job then run for office.
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Chris Fountain
Unfortunately, My post was misinterpreted Again I feel at this time my tax money could be of better use than supporting an organization involved in a possible cover-up. As more facts are revealed, it is apparent that the Chinese were not forthcoming in their news. The WHO provided insufficient oversight.
Why is President Trump always brought up? I never mentioned his name.This is no time for politics - I'm tired of folks hating President Trump. If anyone can do a better job then run for office.
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Chris Fountain
OK - Then what administration should control my expenditure of tax money on corrupt organizations such as the W.H.O. ? I don't see the EU doing anything about oversight - i can only reference those in power at current moment.
The point of my post, and yall know it, was that I do not want my tax money going to the W.H.O. because I think they colluded with China to cover up the Virus which causes death.
So you have to ask yourself - What is more important, the symptom or cause?
We should all know by now what ,whom, and where the cause originated. Come-on-
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Cruise ships:
For some years now I have been thinking about how bad cruise ships are.
First of all they do pollute a lot, we see them in our clean fjords, running on oil, leaving thick smoke into our fresh air. The same happens all over the world.
Secondly, they have may be 1,000 to 4,000 people, and they dump all these people into small nice little villages turned into tourist traps during a few hours daytime. If you have ever been to Nassau Bahamas, after 5pm, when the cruise ships have left, or Flåm, Norway, or any other cruise port, then you see how small cities are damaged, changed into shopping villages closed at 5pm.
Thirdly, they all live in a closed environment, with buffet meals, where salmonella and all sorts of other virus have perfect conditions to spread. Such a dangerous way to handle food, and such a health trap when virus appear.
Still, the reason why I talk about cruise ships now, is the fact that they are corona virus traps. I do still wonder why people boarded cruise ships mid March, long time after many countries had gone into lockdown.
The travel industry will suffer a lot, from this virus crisis, for sure, but the cruise industry should have been banned long time ago, in my opinion, due to environmental reasons. Now the virus will get the cruise ship industry out of business.
This is just one of many cruise ships stranded now, with many sick people:
Passengers to be evacuated from Antarctic cruise ship after almost 60% test positive for coronavirus (CNN - April 8, 2020)
The Greg Mortimer, a cruise liner operated by Australia's Aurora Expeditions, departed March 15 on a voyage to Antarctica and South Georgia. Since the beginning of April, however, the ship has been stuck off the coast of Uruguay, after authorities refused to allow passengers to disembark due to the risk of coronavirus.
Of the 217 people on board, 128 passengers and crew have now tested positive for the virus.
Six passengers requiring specialized care have been transferred to medical facilities in Montevideo -- a video posted online by the Uruguayan navy showed them being transferred from ship to ship wearing full protective gear.
Passengers from European and American who have tested positive for coronavirus, however, will have to remain on board until they have a negative test result, after which they may be able to depart via Brazil, Aurora said.
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Cruise ships:
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I don't think I've commented on this in about a month. But I've been relieved that the doomsday predictions have not come true.
- The new estimates is that we'll see between 58,000 and 100,000 deaths in the United States. In other words, a really bad flu season.
- The most affected are those in their 70s and with underlying symptoms. Young people are largely not affected.
- Governments all over the world failed by trusting China.
- Governments failed by not closing their borders. Italy didn't want to affect tourism. Business elites didn't want to stay at home. Ireland was too polite to turn away Italian tourists arriving in Dublin to flee the lockdown. Political correctness mean the U.S. allowed Chinese-Americans to return home to care for loved ones and then return here.
- I learned about Farr's Law, which is that every epidemic has a natural rise and fall in the shape of a Bell Curve. In the early days we were sold on this idea of exponential growth, which I believe scientists knew was a lie from the beginning. Why did they tell it?
- The virus comes through like a wave. It finds the vulnerable. After four to five weeks, it starts to abate.
- Politicians in the U.S. have used the crisis to enrich their favorite interest groups.
- The U.S. medical system has its pricing flaws, but there is no better place to be if you are sick. Our death rate is lower and we are beginning to come up with alternative treatments.
- People should not smoke. If you smoke for 40 years and then die from the virus, what really killed you?
- I am angered that we put the interests of older people ahead of young people. We have young, working people not in danger from this who are sitting at home for no scientific reason. Remember, our heroes like the Stones and the Who rose to prominence with the idea of pushing aside older people and old ideas. But now the baby boomers are huddled at home and dictating to others what must be done.
- We in America gave up our personal liberties without a fight. The stay at home orders here are enforced by neighborhood busy bodies. Now I now how the East Germans kept order.
- The American working class, which has no power, is going to be broken again by the economic disaster coming. Pensioners getting their Social Security checks are not affected by this.
- The wave is going to be past its peak in a few weeks. By May, we need to go back to our regular lives.
- Lastly, a friend of mine has a theory that the reaction to the virus is a sign that the many in Western Civilization are spiritually exhausted. They leaped at the opportunity to stay home, guilt-free, and watch Netflix and get stoned. It's like they are deliberately shutting down. Be interesting to see if they can power themselves back on.
- As Mick is reputed to have said when Brian died, 'It goes on.'
Thanks for reading, if you got this far!