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The Foo Fighters just postponed their Sat show at the LA Forum due to a Covid infection within the Foos organization.
Wow...that sucks, and to think they went out of their way to hold that "vaccination only" gig in a small club a couple weeks ago.
Could be an antivaxxer within the Foo organization, and/or maybe someone with a counterfeit vaccine card...or maybe someone who IS vaccinated but the Delta virus won......
Whatever the case, a sad sign of the times...it ain't over...stay safe everyone whether vaccinated or not! Looking forward to seeing Los Lobos in October in a small theater, but even that might be in jeopardy...
The way the COVID numbers are increasing right now in the States, Fall 2021 is a pipe dream for a resumption of the stones tour.
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It seemed so simple: all we had to do was get vaccinated and live music would return. We’d go to shows feeling free and easy, jubilant with our fellow formerly cooped up concertgoers, bathing in the power of live music, FINALLY, reveling in the togetherness of it. For months the anticipation has been building as vaccination ramped up and tour announcements rolled out, one after the next, so many it felt overwhelming! An embarrassment of riches. Roaring ’20s, here we come!
Except we’ve @#$%& it up. The fall is going to be a disaster.
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Very well written article on the subject of tours. Foo Fighters and Buckcherry have cancelled gigs due to Covid infections. Do we really think the insurance companies are going to risk tens of millions of dollars?
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It seemed so simple: all we had to do was get vaccinated and live music would return. We’d go to shows feeling free and easy, jubilant with our fellow formerly cooped up concertgoers, bathing in the power of live music, FINALLY, reveling in the togetherness of it. For months the anticipation has been building as vaccination ramped up and tour announcements rolled out, one after the next, so many it felt overwhelming! An embarrassment of riches. Roaring ’20s, here we come!
Except we’ve @#$%& it up. The fall is going to be a disaster.
I hope you’re prepared for disappointment, because there are going to be a LOT of cancellations. They’ve already begun.
Vaccination rates are not where they need to be, with only 59% of those 18 years of age and older fully dosed in the U.S. And we are all going to pay the price.
“But I’m vaccinated,” I hear you say. “I’m protected, and if any unvaccinated fools want to risk getting Covid-19 inside a venue, that’s on them!”
And yes, that’s true. You’ll likely be fine. While those who are fully vaccinated can indeed contract Covid-19, all three vaccines are nearly 100% effective at preventing severe cases of the disease requiring hospitalization and death. If unvaccinated folks want to attend shows, it is (mostly) their own risk.
But consider this: all it’s going to take is one member of one band (or their crew) on a tour contracting Covid-19, and the entire tour will come crashing down. Canceled. Caput. Done.
By the time a band member starts showing symptoms, they’ll have been carrying the virus for days already, exposing not just their own band members, but everyone else on the tour. In vans, buses, green rooms, backstage areas, on stage.
We know how the virus spreads after nearly a year and a half of this. And you know bands will be interacting with fans — they won’t be cordoned off in a bubble — selling merch, doing meet and greets, chit-chatting, shit, just being in the same room carries risk. Fans will be bringing Covid-19 into venues.
And so too will band members become infected. And once that happens, it’s over. The entire tour package will have been exposed. No venue is going to want to allow that traveling germ-fest inside its walls, and the tour package will do the right thing and call it off anyway.
And then it’s a mandatory two weeks off. Which means, practically speaking, the entire tour will be off.
Very few bands can afford to stay out on the road not working for that long, burning money on gas, food, crew and accommodations to resume the tour in a completely different part of the country. If you’re Metallica and you can fly home and rest, no biggie… but if you’re a regular road-dog act, you’re screwed.
Let me say it one more time, as clearly as possible, for the cheap seats: if any one single band member gets Covid-19 while on tour, the entire tour will be canceled.
Even more troubling, recent anecdotal experience leads me to believe that vaccination rates among band members in the metal community are not high. The “@#$%& you, I won’t do what you tell me” streak is strong in this group, and for domestic touring within the U.S. no one is going to be enforcing it (traveling abroad is a different story). Band members are on their own to do the right thing, and the “@#$%& the government” attitude, coupled with feeling young and healthy with national Covid-19 rates low at the moment, is leading people in this demographic to delay.
What’s more, as we know, you can still get Covid if you’re vaccinated. It’s less likely that you’ll get it, and the symptoms will be much milder, but you can still contract it and pass it along to others. Which is to say that if you’re vaccinated, and you get Covid while on tour, the entire package is still @#$%&.
All this while Covid cases are again on the rise in the U.S., up 111% in the past 14 days, according to the New York Times. Much of that upswing has been driven by places with low vaccination rates, like Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana and Colorado. But even places with higher vaccination rates are seeing upticks, in part due to the high transmissibility of the Delta variant, currently the most dominant strain. Things won’t get as bad as last winter, that’s certain, but it could be bad enough to shut down events in some places, and if this happens in too many places it will become difficult or impossible to continue with a tour as routed.
This is my plea: band members who are reading this, PLEASE get vaccinated. It’s not worth the risk. Yes, the above scenarios could still play out even if 100% of a tour package is vaccinated, but it’s a whole lot less likely. Don’t make it your fault an entire tour has to come down because you were too selfish to get a shot. At least be able to say “I did everything I could to prevent this.”
Likewise, fans: get @#$%& vaccinated. The bands can’t do it without you keeping infection rates low in your area. The more areas there are with higher infection rates, the more likely it becomes that tours can’t happen to begin with. And the more likely it becomes that a band member will become infected while on tour.
I feel like I’m screaming into the void. Infection rates are rising just as touring is finally about to kick off en masse; they’re on a collision course and it’s not going to be pretty, and there’s little I or anyone can say or do to prevent it. We’ve been doing so well, so patient, and the moment is finally here! We still have time to turn it around, but the window is closing.
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Yes. Some of you guys are going to be thrilled to bits.
Theyre finally gonna tell us what RMK stands for .....
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Well I hope it's a new studio album!
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Well I hope it's a new studio album!
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general thoughts seem to be waiting to see how things are going and the news in the last few days sadly looks bad for 2021.
1. Celine Dion just moved a 2021 tour starting August 16 to March 9th 2022.
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2. Harry Styles pushed back some dates
[www.rollingstone.com]
3. New York Yankees baseball team postponing games.
4. Sounds like comedian Gabriel Iglesias who was vaccinated got Covid at a movie premiere on Monday and had to cancel some tour dates.
5. The Foo Fighters concert postponement this Saturday in LA.
6. Los Angeles County announced an order requiring all residents to wear masks in indoor public spaces. The order will go into effect at 11:59 p.m. this Saturday. The first concert at the new stadium in LA is this Saturday ending at 11pm.
7. In Las Vegas, Nevada- the state’s two-week positivity rate jumped to 10.9 percent. It has been steadily increasing since it hit a recent low of 3.3 percent on June 9. The number is more than double 5.0 percent, the benchmark recommended by the World Health Organization to prevent the spread of the virus.
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general thoughts seem to be waiting to see how things are going and the news in the last few days sadly looks bad for 2021.
1. Celine Dion just moved a 2021 tour starting August 16 to March 9th 2022.
[www.rollingstone.com]
2. Harry Styles pushed back some dates
[www.rollingstone.com]
3. New York Yankees baseball team postponing games.
4. Sounds like comedian Gabriel Iglesias who was vaccinated got Covid at a movie premiere on Monday and had to cancel some tour dates.
5. The Foo Fighters concert postponement this Saturday in LA.
6. Los Angeles County announced an order requiring all residents to wear masks in indoor public spaces. The order will go into effect at 11:59 p.m. this Saturday. The first concert at the new stadium in LA is this Saturday ending at 11pm.
7. In Las Vegas, Nevada- the state’s two-week positivity rate jumped to 10.9 percent. It has been steadily increasing since it hit a recent low of 3.3 percent on June 9. The number is more than double 5.0 percent, the benchmark recommended by the World Health Organization to prevent the spread of the virus.
This, and many of the other points above, are eroding my hope of a tour this year. Add to that, the Stones touring company is much bigger than most, from truckers, to crew and staff etc, making the the probability of a single case higher than others, and this will not impress the insurance companies. Hoping to be proven wrong. Get your jabs, please!
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The politics, "news" media wise... except for Cucker Tarlson - he is not a journalist no matter what anyone says.
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general thoughts seem to be waiting to see how things are going and the news in the last few days sadly looks bad for 2021.
1. Celine Dion just moved a 2021 tour starting August 16 to March 9th 2022.
[www.rollingstone.com]
2. Harry Styles pushed back some dates
[www.rollingstone.com]
3. New York Yankees baseball team postponing games.
4. Sounds like comedian Gabriel Iglesias who was vaccinated got Covid at a movie premiere on Monday and had to cancel some tour dates.
5. The Foo Fighters concert postponement this Saturday in LA.
6. Los Angeles County announced an order requiring all residents to wear masks in indoor public spaces. The order will go into effect at 11:59 p.m. this Saturday. The first concert at the new stadium in LA is this Saturday ending at 11pm.
7. In Las Vegas, Nevada- the state’s two-week positivity rate jumped to 10.9 percent. It has been steadily increasing since it hit a recent low of 3.3 percent on June 9. The number is more than double 5.0 percent, the benchmark recommended by the World Health Organization to prevent the spread of the virus.
This, and many of the other points above, are eroding my hope of a tour this year. Add to that, the Stones touring company is much bigger than most, from truckers, to crew and staff etc, making the the probability of a single case higher than others, and this will not impress the insurance companies. Hoping to be proven wrong. Get your jabs, please!
You will be.
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general thoughts seem to be waiting to see how things are going and the news in the last few days sadly looks bad for 2021.
1. Celine Dion just moved a 2021 tour starting August 16 to March 9th 2022.
[www.rollingstone.com]
2. Harry Styles pushed back some dates
[www.rollingstone.com]
3. New York Yankees baseball team postponing games.
4. Sounds like comedian Gabriel Iglesias who was vaccinated got Covid at a movie premiere on Monday and had to cancel some tour dates.
5. The Foo Fighters concert postponement this Saturday in LA.
6. Los Angeles County announced an order requiring all residents to wear masks in indoor public spaces. The order will go into effect at 11:59 p.m. this Saturday. The first concert at the new stadium in LA is this Saturday ending at 11pm.
7. In Las Vegas, Nevada- the state’s two-week positivity rate jumped to 10.9 percent. It has been steadily increasing since it hit a recent low of 3.3 percent on June 9. The number is more than double 5.0 percent, the benchmark recommended by the World Health Organization to prevent the spread of the virus.
This, and many of the other points above, are eroding my hope of a tour this year. Add to that, the Stones touring company is much bigger than most, from truckers, to crew and staff etc, making the the probability of a single case higher than others, and this will not impress the insurance companies. Hoping to be proven wrong. Get your jabs, please!
You will be.
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Yes. Some of you guys are going to be thrilled to bits.
Theyre finally gonna tell us what RMK stands for .....
I always thought that was "Richards, Mick & Keith"
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Get ready everyone.
You mean, for next week.......
Yes. Some of you guys are going to be thrilled to bits.
Well I hope it's a new studio album!
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Clearly...but that doesn't mean one can't hope.
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Get ready everyone.
You mean, for next week.......
Yes. Some of you guys are going to be thrilled to bits.
Well I hope it's a new studio album!
Nope.
Clearly...but that doesn't mean one can't hope.
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