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Wandering Spirit is utterly fantastic. Simple as that.

Agreed Mathijis apart from Talk is Cheap it's clearly the stand out Stones solo album. Lots of fast rockers, slow country / folk and funky songs like sweet thing.

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ProfessorWolf
i have what is probaly a stupid question but i just got an orginal copy of wandering spirit on vinyl and is it odd that a album this size is on just one record wouldn't something like this normaly be a double album

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loog droog
A week or so ago I was going through stuff I had saved in the garage, and I came across the CD long box for the album. Originally I didn't want to toss it, as I thought it would be like throwing away a 45 picture sleeve back in the 60's. Does anybody know if people collect these things, or should I put it in the trash?

I think I saw something last year or two years ago about some people that do collect those. I guess Google it? I dunno. Funny how those were supposed to help prevent theft... now people won't even take free CDs.

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TeaAtThree
Call me crazy, but I have a soft spot for Bill's album "Monkey Grip." I loved it because of it's unassuming nature. It was an album of songs that didn't try to be Stones songs or something new (like She's the Boss).

Dusted it off just a few nights ago. Faves are "I Wanna Get Me a Gun" and "What a Blow."

It was also the first solo Stones record I ever bought, so the whole concept was utterly new to me.

In no way a classic, ranks well below the best of any of the others, but I'll take it over Ronnie's 1234, Primitive Cool, I like it more than Main Offender.

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i have what is probaly a stupid question but i just got an orginal copy of wandering spirit on vinyl and is it odd that a album this size is on just one record wouldn't something like this normaly be a double album

WANDERING SPIRIT is 54:05 long.

STEEL WHEELS is 53:03.


EXILE is 67:07 - double LP.

VOODOO is 62:08 - double LP.

BRIDGES is 62:27 - double LP.

BANG is 64:23 - double LP.

I don't know of a concrete rule for what justifies a double LP - regardless of format - but with vinyl, at least before the mid-1990s, not much wiggle room after 59 minutes for a single LP is probably a safe way to look at it. A compact disc with an album's worth of music on it is considered an LP, and in some cases, like PHYSICAL GRAFFITI, which is 82:59, it has to be on two CDs because it's too long for one (unless, of course, there was some editing done). EOMS, VL, BTB and ABB can each fit on one CD.

So that would mean the format doesn't necessarily determine what, time wise, is truly a vinyl double LP. I might be off a little but it seems that the recent rise in vinyl LPs has produced more double albums than what might be considered "before" even though... they aren't double LPs time wise.

Once SoundScan started taking note of units and not per-disc sales, perhaps the double LP, vinyl or CD, went out of favor.

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DandelionPowderman
Yesterday I got the test pressings of my band's album (it took forever making this, but that's a long story). One of the pre-requisites was that the album shouldn't be longer than 40 minutes (to obtain the best sound quality). My album was 44 minutes, but after listening to it several times, there is no lack in quality, luckily. The way to notice it, seemingly, is that the sound turns muddy/distorted toward the end of each side.

I think Todd Rundgren holds the record for squeezing in the most music on a single disc back in the day, with his album A Wizard, A True Star (it clocks in on 56 minutes).

Btw, Mick's Wandering Spirit is 53:58 long, according to Wikipedia.

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WANDERING SPIRIT is 54:05 long.

STEEL WHEELS is 53:03.


EXILE is 67:07 - double LP.

VOODOO is 62:08 - double LP.

BRIDGES is 62:27 - double LP.

BANG is 64:23 - double LP.

I don't know of a concrete rule for what justifies a double LP - regardless of format - but with vinyl, at least before the mid-1990s, not much wiggle room after 59 minutes for a single LP is probably a safe way to look at it. A compact disc with an album's worth of music on it is considered an LP, and in some cases, like PHYSICAL GRAFFITI, which is 82:59, it has to be on two CDs because it's too long for one (unless, of course, there was some editing done). EOMS, VL, BTB and ABB can each fit on one CD.

So that would mean the format doesn't necessarily determine what, time wise, is truly a vinyl double LP. I might be off a little but it seems that the recent rise in vinyl LPs has produced more double albums than what might be considered "before" even though... they aren't double LPs time wise.

Once SoundScan started taking note of units and not per-disc sales, perhaps the double LP, vinyl or CD, went out of favor.

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DandelionPowderman
Yesterday I got the test pressings of my band's album (it took forever making this, but that's a long story). One of the pre-requisites was that the album shouldn't be longer than 40 minutes (to obtain the best sound quality). My album was 44 minutes, but after listening to it several times, there is no lack in quality, luckily. The way to notice it, seemingly, is that the sound turns muddy/distorted toward the end of each side.

I think Todd Rundgren holds the record for squeezing in the most music on a single disc back in the day, with his album A Wizard, A True Star (it clocks in on 56 minutes).

Btw, Mick's Wandering Spirit is 53:58 long, according to Wikipedia.

Actually that Todd album only is his third longest: [en.wikipedia.org]

BTW: good luck with your new album! Even if you feel it took a while, you seem to work faster than another band well-known at this site...

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WANDERING SPIRIT is 54:05 long.

STEEL WHEELS is 53:03.


EXILE is 67:07 - double LP.

VOODOO is 62:08 - double LP.

BRIDGES is 62:27 - double LP.

BANG is 64:23 - double LP.

I don't know of a concrete rule for what justifies a double LP - regardless of format - but with vinyl, at least before the mid-1990s, not much wiggle room after 59 minutes for a single LP is probably a safe way to look at it. A compact disc with an album's worth of music on it is considered an LP, and in some cases, like PHYSICAL GRAFFITI, which is 82:59, it has to be on two CDs because it's too long for one (unless, of course, there was some editing done). EOMS, VL, BTB and ABB can each fit on one CD.

So that would mean the format doesn't necessarily determine what, time wise, is truly a vinyl double LP. I might be off a little but it seems that the recent rise in vinyl LPs has produced more double albums than what might be considered "before" even though... they aren't double LPs time wise.

Once SoundScan started taking note of units and not per-disc sales, perhaps the double LP, vinyl or CD, went out of favor.

Seemingly both STEEL WHEELS and WANDERING SPIRIT reflect the times people started to construct albums in terms of CD. The albums started getting longer as there were more room in a singular CD. Vinyls were surely still pressed since there was still a market for them - but there were like a vinyl versions of CDs. And I think that's why they didn't want to release those as double albums, since the latter were not so good sellers. But the sound quality suffered. I think the worst example is the vinyl version of FLASHPOINT. According to Wiki the CD version is 76:12 minutes. The vinyl version lacks two cuts ("Cant Be Seen" and "Rock & A Hard Place"), which would mean - by a quick maths - that it runs something like EXILE in total! I recall the vinyl actually sounding clear and distinct for sure but rather thin and 'quiet'. Lacking some dynamics. It wasn't just a mix.

By the time of VOODOO LOUNGE the vinyl market was such marginal that only some vinyl diehards would buy them. And they would pay the price of double album to get a better sounding album. Plus the albums just had the habit of coming longer and longer (quantity over quality). The Stones - as usual - reflect very well the change of the times.

Traditionally the single Stones albums were something like 40-46 minutes (although the very early ones were just about over 30 minutes). There is one big exception: UK version of AFTERMATH, which goes over 52 minutes.

- Doxa

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GasLightStreet


WANDERING SPIRIT is 54:05 long.

STEEL WHEELS is 53:03.


EXILE is 67:07 - double LP.

VOODOO is 62:08 - double LP.

BRIDGES is 62:27 - double LP.

BANG is 64:23 - double LP.

I don't know of a concrete rule for what justifies a double LP - regardless of format - but with vinyl, at least before the mid-1990s, not much wiggle room after 59 minutes for a single LP is probably a safe way to look at it. A compact disc with an album's worth of music on it is considered an LP, and in some cases, like PHYSICAL GRAFFITI, which is 82:59, it has to be on two CDs because it's too long for one (unless, of course, there was some editing done). EOMS, VL, BTB and ABB can each fit on one CD.

So that would mean the format doesn't necessarily determine what, time wise, is truly a vinyl double LP. I might be off a little but it seems that the recent rise in vinyl LPs has produced more double albums than what might be considered "before" even though... they aren't double LPs time wise.

Once SoundScan started taking note of units and not per-disc sales, perhaps the double LP, vinyl or CD, went out of favor.

Seemingly both STEEL WHEELS and WANDERING SPIRIT reflect the times people started to construct albums in terms of CD. The albums started getting longer as there were more room in a singular CD. Vinyls were surely still pressed since there was still a market for them - but there were like a vinyl versions of CDs. And I think that's why they didn't want to release those as double albums, since the latter were not so good sellers. But the sound quality suffered. I think the worst example is the vinyl version of FLASHPOINT. According to Wiki the CD version is 76:12 minutes. The vinyl version lacks two cuts ("Cant Be Seen" and "Rock & A Hard Place"), which would mean - by a quick maths - that it runs something like EXILE in total! I recall the vinyl actually sounding clear and distinct for sure but rather thin and 'quiet'. Lacking some dynamics. It wasn't just a mix.

By the time of VOODOO LOUNGE the vinyl market was such marginal that only some vinyl diehards would buy them. And they would pay the price of double album to get a better sounding album. Plus the albums just had the habit of coming longer and longer (quantity over quality). The Stones - as usual - reflect very well the change of the times.

Traditionally the single Stones albums were something like 40-46 minutes (although the very early ones were just about over 30 minutes). There is one big exception: UK version of AFTERMATH, which goes over 52 minutes.

- Doxa

It's been a while since I listened to it, but wasn't Mean Disposition omitted foion".r the VL vinyl version? I wonder why they did that? Why stimulate people to buy cds, when it was by far the most preferred media already in 1994?

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WANDERING SPIRIT is 54:05 long.

STEEL WHEELS is 53:03.


EXILE is 67:07 - double LP.

VOODOO is 62:08 - double LP.

BRIDGES is 62:27 - double LP.

BANG is 64:23 - double LP.

I don't know of a concrete rule for what justifies a double LP - regardless of format - but with vinyl, at least before the mid-1990s, not much wiggle room after 59 minutes for a single LP is probably a safe way to look at it. A compact disc with an album's worth of music on it is considered an LP, and in some cases, like PHYSICAL GRAFFITI, which is 82:59, it has to be on two CDs because it's too long for one (unless, of course, there was some editing done). EOMS, VL, BTB and ABB can each fit on one CD.

So that would mean the format doesn't necessarily determine what, time wise, is truly a vinyl double LP. I might be off a little but it seems that the recent rise in vinyl LPs has produced more double albums than what might be considered "before" even though... they aren't double LPs time wise.

Once SoundScan started taking note of units and not per-disc sales, perhaps the double LP, vinyl or CD, went out of favor.

Seemingly both STEEL WHEELS and WANDERING SPIRIT reflect the times people started to construct albums in terms of CD. The albums started getting longer as there were more room in a singular CD. Vinyls were surely still pressed since there was still a market for them - but there were like a vinyl versions of CDs. And I think that's why they didn't want to release those as double albums, since the latter were not so good sellers. But the sound quality suffered. I think the worst example is the vinyl version of FLASHPOINT. According to Wiki the CD version is 76:12 minutes. The vinyl version lacks two cuts ("Cant Be Seen" and "Rock & A Hard Place"), which would mean - by a quick maths - that it runs something like EXILE in total! I recall the vinyl actually sounding clear and distinct for sure but rather thin and 'quiet'. Lacking some dynamics. It wasn't just a mix.

By the time of VOODOO LOUNGE the vinyl market was such marginal that only some vinyl diehards would buy them. And they would pay the price of double album to get a better sounding album. Plus the albums just had the habit of coming longer and longer (quantity over quality). The Stones - as usual - reflect very well the change of the times.

Traditionally the single Stones albums were something like 40-46 minutes (although the very early ones were just about over 30 minutes). There is one big exception: UK version of AFTERMATH, which goes over 52 minutes.

- Doxa

It's been a while since I listened to it, but wasn't Mean Disposition omitted foion".r the VL vinyl version? I wonder why they did that? Why stimulate people to buy cds, when it was by far the most preferred media already in 1994?

That is correct. I am a vinyl buyer and listener. And I have not got " Mean Disposition". I have hardly heard it. But it was included in a later rerelease of the vinyl album. In 2010 I now read. However, I did not buy that album version. So I am still without " Mean Disposition".

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Doxa
There is one big exception: UK version of AFTERMATH, which goes over 52 minutes.

- Doxa

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DandelionPowderman
Yesterday I got the test pressings of my band's album (it took forever making this, but that's a long story). One of the pre-requisites was that the album shouldn't be longer than 40 minutes (to obtain the best sound quality). My album was 44 minutes, but after listening to it several times, there is no lack in quality, luckily. The way to notice it, seemingly, is that the sound turns muddy/distorted toward the end of each side.

I think Todd Rundgren holds the record for squeezing in the most music on a single disc back in the day, with his album A Wizard, A True Star (it clocks in on 56 minutes).

Btw, Mick's Wandering Spirit is 53:58 long, according to Wikipedia.

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DandelionPowderman
Yesterday I got the test pressings of my band's album (it took forever making this, but that's a long story). One of the pre-requisites was that the album shouldn't be longer than 40 minutes (to obtain the best sound quality). My album was 44 minutes, but after listening to it several times, there is no lack in quality, luckily. The way to notice it, seemingly, is that the sound turns muddy/distorted toward the end of each side.

I think Todd Rundgren holds the record for squeezing in the most music on a single disc back in the day, with his album A Wizard, A True Star (it clocks in on 56 minutes).

Btw, Mick's Wandering Spirit is 53:58 long, according to Wikipedia.

LOL what I saw was 54:05!

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GasLightStreet
Keith commented on how Thru And Thru had gotten some attention and that it closed VOODOO.

Apparently he considers the vinyl edition as "the album" and doesn't refer to the CD version of the album. Mean Disposition is a good blues rocker but flat in comparison to Jump On Top Of Me or I'm Gonna Drive.

Aside from that abomination Charmed Life, anyone know of any other tracks recorded for WANDERING SPIRIT?

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DandelionPowderman
Yesterday I got the test pressings of my band's album (it took forever making this, but that's a long story). One of the pre-requisites was that the album shouldn't be longer than 40 minutes (to obtain the best sound quality). My album was 44 minutes, but after listening to it several times, there is no lack in quality, luckily. The way to notice it, seemingly, is that the sound turns muddy/distorted toward the end of each side.

I think Todd Rundgren holds the record for squeezing in the most music on a single disc back in the day, with his album A Wizard, A True Star (it clocks in on 56 minutes).

Btw, Mick's Wandering Spirit is 53:58 long, according to Wikipedia.

LOL what I saw was 54:05!

Maybe there's a difference between the first and second edition?

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DandelionPowderman
Yesterday I got the test pressings of my band's album (it took forever making this, but that's a long story). One of the pre-requisites was that the album shouldn't be longer than 40 minutes (to obtain the best sound quality). My album was 44 minutes, but after listening to it several times, there is no lack in quality, luckily. The way to notice it, seemingly, is that the sound turns muddy/distorted toward the end of each side.

I think Todd Rundgren holds the record for squeezing in the most music on a single disc back in the day, with his album A Wizard, A True Star (it clocks in on 56 minutes).

Btw, Mick's Wandering Spirit is 53:58 long, according to Wikipedia.

LOL what I saw was 54:05!

Maybe there's a difference between the first and second edition?

Todd Rundgren's Initiation clocks in at 68:11.

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GasLightStreet
Keith commented on how Thru And Thru had gotten some attention and that it closed VOODOO.

Apparently he considers the vinyl edition as "the album" and doesn't refer to the CD version of the album. Mean Disposition is a good blues rocker but flat in comparison to Jump On Top Of Me or I'm Gonna Drive.

Aside from that abomination Charmed Life, anyone know of any other tracks recorded for WANDERING SPIRIT?

There is some different things (compared to what they use to do with their rockers) going on in Mean Disposition (the "hit and run / loaded gun"-parts). I like the 50s feel of it, the drive.

Jump On Top On Me is a very standard country-rocker, but I like it. It's a good one. I'm Gonna Drive is a bit boring, imo.

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ProfessorWolf
wow didn't think i'd get that big a response just thought it was odd that it wad a single disc when the new release has 2