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Just when you thought it was over Undercover fans, haha. VoodooLounge13 hit some serious notes in my opinion. It was a new day and I believe they felt they must change, no more classic Stones the way we knew them. Alas, Steel Wheels or maybe they would have become a washed up oldies band repeating themselves? All of this is debatable. Regardless, I'm happy with the outcome.
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VoodooLounge13
Well, I guess I'm going to go it alone here with my opinion, because, to me, Undercover is the 2nd weakest album in their entire catalog, behind only TSMR. It's the album I listen to the least out of all of them. I do like Pretty Beat Up, Tie You Up, She Was Hot, and Wanna Hold You, but for me the album stops there. All the rest sounds like bland 80's Duran Duran type stuff, and I loathe that early 80's sound. Dirty Work is the far superior album to this one, with its raw, mostly negative energy, and it worked. Steel Wheels came out when I first discovered the band without knowing that I had grown up with a bunch of their songs already (I was 13 at the time of its release). I think it's aged well, and shows the band in one fluid motion - not at all by the numbers. Almost Hear You Sigh is one of the Top TEN best songs that the band has ever produced! I might even slot it into the Top FIVE when I really truly sat down to think about it. It is absolutely beautiful, and I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to hear this live!!!! Slipping Away and Can't Be Seen are two of Keef's very best efforts, too, I think. Continental Drift was very experimental for them at the time, I thought, and it works quite well. Same with Terrifying and Break the Spell - I thought both of these were very different sounding than other Stones' pieces. Mixed Emotions is a rather complex song - so much so that they hardly play it live, despite it being their last big hit. Sad Sad Sad was a great opener choice. Hold On To Your Hat is a quick little Jagger rant, and I've always liked his vocal on Blinded By Love. Plus it's the last album to feature the full 5-member band.
For me, Steel Wheels rolls over Undercover alllll the way thru the Urban Jungle...
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Well, I guess I'm going to go it alone here with my opinion, because, to me, Undercover is the 2nd weakest album in their entire catalog, behind only TSMR. It's the album I listen to the least out of all of them. I do like Pretty Beat Up, Tie You Up, She Was Hot, and Wanna Hold You, but for me the album stops there. All the rest sounds like bland 80's Duran Duran type stuff, and I loathe that early 80's sound. Dirty Work is the far superior album to this one, with its raw, mostly negative energy, and it worked. Steel Wheels came out when I first discovered the band without knowing that I had grown up with a bunch of their songs already (I was 13 at the time of its release). I think it's aged well, and shows the band in one fluid motion - not at all by the numbers. Almost Hear You Sigh is one of the Top TEN best songs that the band has ever produced! I might even slot it into the Top FIVE when I really truly sat down to think about it. It is absolutely beautiful, and I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to hear this live!!!! Slipping Away and Can't Be Seen are two of Keef's very best efforts, too, I think. Continental Drift was very experimental for them at the time, I thought, and it works quite well. Same with Terrifying and Break the Spell - I thought both of these were very different sounding than other Stones' pieces. Mixed Emotions is a rather complex song - so much so that they hardly play it live, despite it being their last big hit. Sad Sad Sad was a great opener choice. Hold On To Your Hat is a quick little Jagger rant, and I've always liked his vocal on Blinded By Love. Plus it's the last album to feature the full 5-member band.
For me, Steel Wheels rolls over Undercover alllll the way thru the Urban Jungle...
I didn't agree with a lot of what you said, but I appreciated the effort...but you totally lost me here:
Almost Hear You Sigh is one of the Top TEN best songs that the band has ever produced! I might even slot it into the Top FIVE when I really truly sat down to think about it
I could understand that it may be one of your favourites, but with a catalogue as strong as the Stones this would have difficulty cracking the top 50, and I may be too generous with that.
Guilty pleasures aside, Continental Drift is the only essential track from Steel Wheels, truly standout. I like a lot of the stuff on the album, it's just not marquee stuff and some of it is weak.
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peoplewitheyes
I'm not sure how Mixed Emotions could ever be described as a 'rather complex song' ... It is pretty one-dimensional and rather pedestrian to these ears.
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I'm not sure how Mixed Emotions could ever be described as a 'rather complex song' ... It is pretty one-dimensional and rather pedestrian to these ears.
Complex in the performance of it with the constant tempo changes. That's what I'd meant.
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I'm not sure how Mixed Emotions could ever be described as a 'rather complex song' ... It is pretty one-dimensional and rather pedestrian to these ears.
Complex in the performance of it with the constant tempo changes. That's what I'd meant.
Are we talking about "Mixed Emotions"? THE 'Mixed Emotions" off of "Steel Wheels'? "Creasing your butt' emotions? One of the most straight away songs they ever did?
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Well, I guess I'm going to go it alone here with my opinion, because, to me, Undercover is the 2nd weakest album in their entire catalog, behind only TSMR. It's the album I listen to the least out of all of them. I do like Pretty Beat Up, Tie You Up, She Was Hot, and Wanna Hold You, but for me the album stops there. All the rest sounds like bland 80's Duran Duran type stuff, and I loathe that early 80's sound. Dirty Work is the far superior album to this one, with its raw, mostly negative energy, and it worked. Steel Wheels came out when I first discovered the band without knowing that I had grown up with a bunch of their songs already (I was 13 at the time of its release). I think it's aged well, and shows the band in one fluid motion - not at all by the numbers. Almost Hear You Sigh is one of the Top TEN best songs that the band has ever produced! I might even slot it into the Top FIVE when I really truly sat down to think about it. It is absolutely beautiful, and I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to hear this live!!!! Slipping Away and Can't Be Seen are two of Keef's very best efforts, too, I think. Continental Drift was very experimental for them at the time, I thought, and it works quite well. Same with Terrifying and Break the Spell - I thought both of these were very different sounding than other Stones' pieces. Mixed Emotions is a rather complex song - so much so that they hardly play it live, despite it being their last big hit. Sad Sad Sad was a great opener choice. Hold On To Your Hat is a quick little Jagger rant, and I've always liked his vocal on Blinded By Love. Plus it's the last album to feature the full 5-member band.
For me, Steel Wheels rolls over Undercover alllll the way thru the Urban Jungle...
I didn't agree with a lot of what you said, but I appreciated the effort...but you totally lost me here:
Almost Hear You Sigh is one of the Top TEN best songs that the band has ever produced! I might even slot it into the Top FIVE when I really truly sat down to think about it
I could understand that it may be one of your favourites, but with a catalogue as strong as the Stones this would have difficulty cracking the top 50, and I may be too generous with that.
Guilty pleasures aside, Continental Drift is the only essential track from Steel Wheels, truly standout. I like a lot of the stuff on the album, it's just not marquee stuff and some of it is weak.
All in musical preferences, my dear sir. I have never made a Stones compilation album that didn't include that one. It's Ruby Tuesday's not too distant cousin. BTW - Ruby is my all time favorite Stones' song, so perhaps I have a particular bent toward AHYS. But I'm also the only one on here who doesn't think Rambler is the QUINTESSENTIAL Stones song either. Highly overrated actually.
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Well, I guess I'm going to go it alone here with my opinion, because, to me, Undercover is the 2nd weakest album in their entire catalog, behind only TSMR. It's the album I listen to the least out of all of them. I do like Pretty Beat Up, Tie You Up, She Was Hot, and Wanna Hold You, but for me the album stops there. All the rest sounds like bland 80's Duran Duran type stuff, and I loathe that early 80's sound. Dirty Work is the far superior album to this one, with its raw, mostly negative energy, and it worked. Steel Wheels came out when I first discovered the band without knowing that I had grown up with a bunch of their songs already (I was 13 at the time of its release). I think it's aged well, and shows the band in one fluid motion - not at all by the numbers. Almost Hear You Sigh is one of the Top TEN best songs that the band has ever produced! I might even slot it into the Top FIVE when I really truly sat down to think about it. It is absolutely beautiful, and I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to hear this live!!!! Slipping Away and Can't Be Seen are two of Keef's very best efforts, too, I think. Continental Drift was very experimental for them at the time, I thought, and it works quite well. Same with Terrifying and Break the Spell - I thought both of these were very different sounding than other Stones' pieces. Mixed Emotions is a rather complex song - so much so that they hardly play it live, despite it being their last big hit. Sad Sad Sad was a great opener choice. Hold On To Your Hat is a quick little Jagger rant, and I've always liked his vocal on Blinded By Love. Plus it's the last album to feature the full 5-member band.
For me, Steel Wheels rolls over Undercover alllll the way thru the Urban Jungle...
I didn't agree with a lot of what you said, but I appreciated the effort...but you totally lost me here:
Almost Hear You Sigh is one of the Top TEN best songs that the band has ever produced! I might even slot it into the Top FIVE when I really truly sat down to think about it
I could understand that it may be one of your favourites, but with a catalogue as strong as the Stones this would have difficulty cracking the top 50, and I may be too generous with that.
Guilty pleasures aside, Continental Drift is the only essential track from Steel Wheels, truly standout. I like a lot of the stuff on the album, it's just not marquee stuff and some of it is weak.
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I'm not sure how Mixed Emotions could ever be described as a 'rather complex song' ... It is pretty one-dimensional and rather pedestrian to these ears.
Complex in the performance of it with the constant tempo changes. That's what I'd meant.
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Well, I guess I'm going to go it alone here with my opinion, because, to me, Undercover is the 2nd weakest album in their entire catalog, behind only TSMR. It's the album I listen to the least out of all of them. I do like Pretty Beat Up, Tie You Up, She Was Hot, and Wanna Hold You, but for me the album stops there. All the rest sounds like bland 80's Duran Duran type stuff, and I loathe that early 80's sound. Dirty Work is the far superior album to this one, with its raw, mostly negative energy, and it worked. Steel Wheels came out when I first discovered the band without knowing that I had grown up with a bunch of their songs already (I was 13 at the time of its release). I think it's aged well, and shows the band in one fluid motion - not at all by the numbers. Almost Hear You Sigh is one of the Top TEN best songs that the band has ever produced! I might even slot it into the Top FIVE when I really truly sat down to think about it. It is absolutely beautiful, and I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to hear this live!!!! Slipping Away and Can't Be Seen are two of Keef's very best efforts, too, I think. Continental Drift was very experimental for them at the time, I thought, and it works quite well. Same with Terrifying and Break the Spell - I thought both of these were very different sounding than other Stones' pieces. Mixed Emotions is a rather complex song - so much so that they hardly play it live, despite it being their last big hit. Sad Sad Sad was a great opener choice. Hold On To Your Hat is a quick little Jagger rant, and I've always liked his vocal on Blinded By Love. Plus it's the last album to feature the full 5-member band.
For me, Steel Wheels rolls over Undercover alllll the way thru the Urban Jungle...
I didn't agree with a lot of what you said, but I appreciated the effort...but you totally lost me here:
Almost Hear You Sigh is one of the Top TEN best songs that the band has ever produced! I might even slot it into the Top FIVE when I really truly sat down to think about it
I could understand that it may be one of your favourites, but with a catalogue as strong as the Stones this would have difficulty cracking the top 50, and I may be too generous with that.
Guilty pleasures aside, Continental Drift is the only essential track from Steel Wheels, truly standout. I like a lot of the stuff on the album, it's just not marquee stuff and some of it is weak.
VoodooLounge13 is just repeating things that have been said by Mick or whoever about Mixed Emotions being "difficult to play live", which is bullshit - they played it at every show in 1989 and 1990. Nothing complex about it.
Can't Be Seen is awful bad. How that got included on the LP is fuddling.
Almost Hear You Sigh, at the time, was astounding, but there are better, even post-STEEL WHEELS.
Continental Drift only gets mentioned because of the non-Stones part. The rest of the song is just a crap Jagger solo song.
UNDERCOVER is a meaty album, with no by-numbers songs like STEEL WHEELS.
Some people just can't hear things like that.
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I'm not sure how Mixed Emotions could ever be described as a 'rather complex song' ... It is pretty one-dimensional and rather pedestrian to these ears.
Complex in the performance of it with the constant tempo changes. That's what I'd meant.
Are we talking about "Mixed Emotions"? THE 'Mixed Emotions" off of "Steel Wheels'? "Creasing your butt' emotions? One of the most straight away songs they ever did?