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Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: powerage78 ()
Date: April 2, 2019 10:08

My father had heart valve replacement surgery four years ago.
He is quite fine now.
It is an important procedure but perfectly mastered today.
It is painful after because of the healing.

My father is not Mick Jagger (no), but after the procedure it takes at least 3 to 6 months of complete rest.

***
I'm just a Bad Boy Boogie



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Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: Witness ()
Date: April 2, 2019 10:13

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I was wondering how Mick was performing at this level of fitness since 2012, i know that Steroids damage heart valves over time, hope this is not the cause because that would be self inflicted and going to unnecessary lengths to continue moving like Jagger.
All the best to Mick, get well soon and remember you don't need to run around the stage to amaze us all, as Keith said, Mick can work that coffee table like no one in the world..

Yep, "steroids" and "self inflicted"...so blame yourself Jagger! No matter what the context is, you really don't waste any opportunity to throw any thinkable dirt on Jagger, now do you?

"All the best to Mick", oh yeah...eye rolling smiley

- Doxa

Oh god here we go again, i'm so fed up with you taking part of what i say and twisting it. I'll say 10 good things about Mick but you will pick out one thing and try to stalk me out of here.

Formerly I have met with a similiar response from you as well. Are we then to take it that you don't necessarily mean all that you write , and that one first ought to consult you about what is a valid representation of your point of view before one may comment on it?

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: April 2, 2019 10:14

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If it's true he has to have this heart surgery, I simply cannot understand, why the wait until later this week? As a man of wealth and taste, he surely never has to wait in a queue, least of all a medical queue, like the rest of us plebs?

Possibly because it's not an emergency as such...just something that needs doing before you go running about like a mad man again.

We're very unlikely to get any concrete information until Mick's had the procedure...

...So why don't we stop asking questions for now and just wish Mick our collective "Get Well Soon".



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Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: keithsman ()
Date: April 2, 2019 10:18

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How did the insurers let Keith back so quickly after the brain injury?

Thoughts with Mick and the rest of the band/family

Possible it was less of a concern then due to age, as was 13 years ago

Rubbish, most people don't fully recover from cranial surgery for a subdural hematoma, Keith was very lucky to be able to play after that, he took his surgeon on tour for two years after the operation, Keith has to take anti seizure medication for the rest of his life.

Ah, did not know that. Was just thinking from possible insurers' perspective.

Thanks for the context.

No worries, sorry for being so abrupt, it was touch and go for Keith, people don't realize how serious the coconut tree fall was.

Yet you continue to talk about something that didn't happen.

Doesn't matter how he fell or what from, he fell or he didn't and had a brain hemorrhage, a brain bleed that wouldn't stop bleeding even after a long time in hospital to release the pressure, doesn't get much more serious than that, it's your brain..

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: April 2, 2019 10:25

Not sure this is the time to be debating Keith's old "bump on the head" either chaps.

The "medical experts" around here argued that one to death 12 years ago...

...and very little further fact has come to light since.

[There's plenty of genuine medical expertise around here...but none of it with access to either Mick's or Keith's case notes. grinning smiley]



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Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: terraplane ()
Date: April 2, 2019 10:48

I’m sure Mick will be fine

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: schwonek ()
Date: April 2, 2019 11:12

Dates start dropping in.

Denver Oct 30th
Chicago Nov 3rd

Anything else yet?

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: makustone ()
Date: April 2, 2019 11:24

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schwonek
Dates start dropping in.

Denver Oct 30th
Chicago Nov 3rd

Anything else yet?

and this where did it come from?

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: Adams ()
Date: April 2, 2019 11:27

These dates are from some ticket reseller on Facebook. As legit as self made up by anyone

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: keithsman ()
Date: April 2, 2019 11:37

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Spud
Not sure this is the time to be debating Keith's old "bump on the head" either chaps.

The "medical experts" around here argued that one to death 12 years ago...

...and very little further fact has come to light since.

[There's plenty of genuine medical expertise around here...but none of it with access to either Mick's or Keith's case notes. grinning smiley]

That's what we do on here, we talk about the Stones, analogize, assume, predict, obsess, go over previous events etc etc etc winking smiley

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: The Worst. ()
Date: April 2, 2019 11:37

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schwonek
Dates start dropping in.

Denver Oct 30th
Chicago Nov 3rd

Anything else yet?

If they still plan to play outdoor stadiums, that is highly unlikely.
Chicago in Oct 2006 was freezing cold.
In November you might get snow. Same with Denver I reckon.

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: Bliss ()
Date: April 2, 2019 11:40

This might be a wake-up call for any similarly-aged fans here to dial back on the Viagra and other recreational drugs...

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: exhpart ()
Date: April 2, 2019 11:45

I imagine the op is already scheduled (if not this week then next) but we won't know till afterwards and I can't blame the man for wanting a bit of peace. I note 3 months recuperation, so I reckon you're looking at late July thro' mid - Sept if we're talking 17 dates again with 3 days break between each one. That should be ok for stadium gigs surely?

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: spunky ()
Date: April 2, 2019 11:46

Don't forget a couple of weeks rehearsals.

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: exhpart ()
Date: April 2, 2019 11:50

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Don't forget a couple of weeks rehearsals.

He can sit in an armchair at rehearsals!

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: keithsman ()
Date: April 2, 2019 12:18

It's not certain that Mick will continue to tour after this operation, am i right in thinking that, i get the feeling Mick is a 100% kind of guy, he's not like Keith who will carry on like Frank Sinatra lol, forgetting the words and messing up solo after solo because he can, Mick would rather die than get a bad review and critics saying he's not like he was. So yeah i'm not sure if an operation like this effects fitness levels, does anyone know a fitness fanatic that had new heart valves like Arnold Swatchnigger who had valves from a pig put in, Arnold is down as saying he can't train the same post op, that their are limitations.

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: grzegorz67 ()
Date: April 2, 2019 12:25

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schwonek
Dates start dropping in.

Denver Oct 30th
Chicago Nov 3rd

Anything else yet?

Chicago in November? Are you having a laugh?

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: Massimo68 ()
Date: April 2, 2019 12:33

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powerage78
My father had heart valve replacement surgery four years ago.
He is quite fine now.
It is an important procedure but perfectly mastered today.
It is painful after because of the healing.

My father is not Mick Jagger (no), but after the procedure it takes at least 3 to 6 months of complete rest.

Same surgery for my uncle last year (not MJ either)
The rehabilitation was quite long.
And near one year after, some movements are still painful.

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: schwonek ()
Date: April 2, 2019 12:34

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Dates start dropping in.

Denver Oct 30th
Chicago Nov 3rd

Anything else yet?

Chicago in November? Are you having a laugh?

I didnt make up the dates. But didnt they play stadiums in Nov 2005 also?

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: April 2, 2019 12:35

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Not sure this is the time to be debating Keith's old "bump on the head" either chaps.

The "medical experts" around here argued that one to death 12 years ago...

...and very little further fact has come to light since.

[There's plenty of genuine medical expertise around here...but none of it with access to either Mick's or Keith's case notes. grinning smiley]

That's what we do on here, we talk about the Stones, analogize, assume, predict, obsess, go over previous events etc etc etc winking smiley

Point taken smiling smiley

[I'm just not very comfortable gossiping about this personal & medical stuff I suppose ...so I might be better advised to shut up & stop following the thread]

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: keithsman ()
Date: April 2, 2019 12:36

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Spud
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Not sure this is the time to be debating Keith's old "bump on the head" either chaps.

The "medical experts" around here argued that one to death 12 years ago...

...and very little further fact has come to light since.

[There's plenty of genuine medical expertise around here...but none of it with access to either Mick's or Keith's case notes. grinning smiley]

That's what we do on here, we talk about the Stones, analogize, assume, predict, obsess, go over previous events etc etc etc winking smiley

Point taken smiling smiley

[I'm just not very comfortable gossiping about this personal & medical stuff I suppose ...so I might be better advised to shut up & stop following the thread]

Oh sorry man, i'll be cool and drop all this stuff , no worries.

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: grzegorz67 ()
Date: April 2, 2019 12:44

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Dates start dropping in.

Denver Oct 30th
Chicago Nov 3rd

Anything else yet?

Chicago in November? Are you having a laugh?

I didnt make up the dates. But didnt they play stadiums in Nov 2005 also?


They did, but in warmer places and were 14 years younger then. Chicago will be freezing in November and definitely not good for any men in their 70s to perform outdoors let alone one who's probably just had a heart op?

I know you're not making it up. I meant the unofficial source of the 'info'.

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: runrudolph ()
Date: April 2, 2019 12:45

Maybe indoor gigs????
jeroen

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: grzegorz67 ()
Date: April 2, 2019 13:08

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Maybe indoor gigs????
jeroen

too small. The ticket price maths doesn't add up unless they charge $1,000+ a ticket.

Besides, how would they accommodate people who've already bought specific seats and standing sections in the big stadia ? Big headache!



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Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: StonedRambler ()
Date: April 2, 2019 13:12

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Maybe indoor gigs????
jeroen

too small. The ticket price maths doesn't add up unless they charge $1,000 a ticket.
Isn't something similar to 2017 possible? Outdoor stadiums in September and then moving to closed roof stadiums in Oktober. But then they had to do some other cities and maybe cancle some existing ones

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: spunky ()
Date: April 2, 2019 13:19

How many stadiums with a closed roof are the in de USA?

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: StonedRambler ()
Date: April 2, 2019 13:24

[en.m.wikipedia.org]

They definitely had to change some of the cities but a tour playing indoor stadiums for the half of the tour would be possible

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: JMARCOU ()
Date: April 2, 2019 13:30

I got a new valve 8 years ago and was OK 2 years after.

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: Massimo68 ()
Date: April 2, 2019 13:34

The big issue is to find stadiums where NFL or college football competitions are not scheduled.



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Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: colonial ()
Date: April 2, 2019 13:34

The Stones postponing their concerts has made it as far south as New Zealand on our main news stations

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