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Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: August 17, 2018 00:13

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Haven't past Stones meet and greets turned out to be something of a joke? I recall reading (but can't recall where) that groups of four or five people are led into a room where the Stones await. They are told in advance- no individual pictures, no autographs, no questions, etc. They gather around for a picture with the Stones, say "hi", maybe shake hands and then are escorted out. The whole thing lasts for less than a minute.

Can someone either confirm or refute this narrative?

Confirmed, I have a friend who did it in Vegas years ago, and while he did end up with a nifty photo of himself and other fans standing with the band,
that's about the only positive that came out of the entire situation. In other words, waste of time and money.

What did he pay? Maybe he doesn’t think it a waste.
Even if you paid the $20k, had the time of your life, but were broke 10 years down the line and started to regret paying the $20k, you say:
It went to charity and I helped others.

Nowhere near $20,000 - there were several different meet and greet and/or VIP options.
And yes, he thought it was pretty much a waste, although he proudly still has the photo as a token souvenir.

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Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: 35love ()
Date: August 17, 2018 00:14

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Hairball
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35love
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Roscoe
Haven't past Stones meet and greets turned out to be something of a joke? I recall reading (but can't recall where) that groups of four or five people are led into a room where the Stones await. They are told in advance- no individual pictures, no autographs, no questions, etc. They gather around for a picture with the Stones, say "hi", maybe shake hands and then are escorted out. The whole thing lasts for less than a minute.

Can someone either confirm or refute this narrative?

Confirmed, I have a friend who did it in Vegas years ago, and while he did end up with a nifty photo of himself and other fans standing with the band,
that's about the only positive that came out of the entire situation. In other words, waste of time and money.

What did he pay? Maybe he doesn’t think it a waste.
Even if you paid the $20k, had the time of your life, but were broke 10 years down the line and started to regret paying the $20k, you say:
It went to charity and I helped others.

Nowhere near $20,000 - there were several different meet and greet and/or VIP options.
And yes, he thought it was pretty much a waste, although he proudly still has the photo as a token souvenir.

And this is what I mean about the Stones evolving.

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: August 17, 2018 00:32

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I mean compare the 78 live version of Miss You that Dandy recently posted with anything from the recent tours and you realize that even on their best nights they can’t come close to sounding that good anymore…not even close

Yes, I was mesmerized by that video Dandelion posted, and thought how exciting that '78 tour must have been with the brand new Some Girls album to promote. Unfortunately I didn't see that tour (my first shows were in '81, excellent in their own right with Tattoo You being the new album), but based on that Miss You video alone it had to have all been thrilling. All of them were on fire in that clip - Mick lurking around, Bill and Charlie holding down the fort, Keith letting it rip, and even Ronnie playing some great guitar throughout - they don't come anywhere near that anymore obviously, and haven't for quite a long time.

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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2018-08-17 00:54 by Hairball.

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: 35love ()
Date: August 17, 2018 01:02

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I mean compare the 78 live version of Miss You that Dandy recently posted with anything from the recent tours and you realize that even on their best nights they can’t come close to sounding that good anymore…not even close

Yes, I was mesmerized by that video Dandelion posted, and thought how exciting that '78 tour must have been with the brand new Some Girls album to promote. Unfortunately I didn't see that tour (my first shows were in '81, excellent in their own right with Tattoo You being the new album), but based on that Miss You video alone it had to have all been thrilling. All of them were on fire in that clip - Mick lurking around, Bill and Charlie holding down the fort, Keith letting it rip, and even Ronnie playing some great guitar throughout - they don't come anywhere near that anymore obviously, and haven't for quite a long time.


It’s a different incarnation, a different era.
1978 and 1981 were a LONG TIME AGO.
They still go in and make magic. I was at 2 shows in the last 12 months
(Ha! Never said that before cool smiley)
And magic was there my friend. Cold stone sober as a judge, and God was my witness (and about 50k other humans)

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: roryg ()
Date: August 17, 2018 01:12

I doubt The Stones would do this; Aerosmith always copies The Stones, not the other way around.

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: black n blue ()
Date: August 17, 2018 01:16

The group looks looking like shit. Their look for guys close to 70 ain’t happening. Saw em on the today show.

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: ROPENI ()
Date: August 17, 2018 02:17

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roryg
I doubt The Stones would do this; Aerosmith always copies The Stones, not the other way around.
Well, l do believe if the money is right they will do it in a minute,and l don't think they give a shit what we think,and yes Aerosmith has always been an imitation of The Stones and at times a very good one.....

"No dope smoking no beer sold after 12 o'clock"

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: ab ()
Date: August 17, 2018 04:59

When they've toured lately, it's been two shows a week in stadiums for seven weeks. That's roughly 700,000 tickets per tour, many at top dollar. I don't see how a Vegas residency can approach that kind of payday. So I don't envision a Vegas stint.

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: keefriff99 ()
Date: August 17, 2018 05:07

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Hairball
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35love
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Hairball
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Roscoe
Haven't past Stones meet and greets turned out to be something of a joke? I recall reading (but can't recall where) that groups of four or five people are led into a room where the Stones await. They are told in advance- no individual pictures, no autographs, no questions, etc. They gather around for a picture with the Stones, say "hi", maybe shake hands and then are escorted out. The whole thing lasts for less than a minute.

Can someone either confirm or refute this narrative?

Confirmed, I have a friend who did it in Vegas years ago, and while he did end up with a nifty photo of himself and other fans standing with the band,
that's about the only positive that came out of the entire situation. In other words, waste of time and money.

What did he pay? Maybe he doesn’t think it a waste.
Even if you paid the $20k, had the time of your life, but were broke 10 years down the line and started to regret paying the $20k, you say:
It went to charity and I helped others.

Nowhere near $20,000 - there were several different meet and greet and/or VIP options.
And yes, he thought it was pretty much a waste, although he proudly still has the photo as a token souvenir.
Even opening acts are treated to a similar "experience".

Lars Ulrich told a story about when Metallica opened for the Stones in San Francisco where they were ushered into a room, quickly introduced to the Stones and had a photo snapped of the two bands. He said it was very clinical and a bit disillusioning.

Now, I know almost no one else here gives a damn about Metallica, but they're one of the very few remaining legitimate stadium acts left, and they've sold more albums than the Stones worldwide, so imagine what kind of treatment the average fan gets if a major opening act is treated so perfunctorily.

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: August 17, 2018 05:13

I recall that story keefriff99, in fact I was at that show.
Having seen Metallica in the mid-'80's when they were still edgy and relatively unknown, and then seeing them become somewhat diluted and sterile thereafter with their rise in popularity, I opted to stay at a bar with friends pre-show rather than endure them as opening acts. Nothing wrong with them really, but seemed such an odd choice to have as an opening act for a Stones show. I do recall some young knucklehead Metallica fans after the show was over boldly claiming "Metallica blew the Stones away"!!! haha. Perhaps for them it was true, but have to think they were in the minority on that one.

Then again, many claimed AC/DC blew the Stones away at the SARS festival, and it was more than just a few who claimed that - in fact I think it was almost unanimous.

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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-08-17 05:16 by Hairball.

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: lem motlow ()
Date: August 17, 2018 06:51

I remember Lars telling that story keefriff99,it was actually worse than you remember it.
Metallica and the third band on the bill,Everclear were standing around talking and just hanging out waiting for the Stones to come by and say hello.
So this lady who was not named walks in and says”ok,Metallica stand on this side and Everclear on that side,the Stones will be here in a minute”
They walked in a few minutes later and said hello to everyone and left about 30 seconds later.Lars said”this was my Rolling Stones experience” sounding half disappointed and half disgusted.

Not a fan of either of these acts but Everclear were popular then and Metallica were huge and still are. It was the only live shows they did that year and the word I got was half the crowd was there for them.(they’re from SF)

To make it worse Lars had put out a really respectful glowing press releases saying how they hadn’t been an opening act for a long time but it was a career highlight to do a show with the Stones.
And they got hall monitor lady and a 30 second hello.anyone who excuses this kind of shit isn’t a fan they’re a hero worshiper

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: swaff ()
Date: August 17, 2018 07:16

I would definitely dig it if Aerosmith did a "posted" different set list every night and I could pick and choose which "song" nights to attend. to me that is a perfect residency stay. Note to self: Not going to happen.

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: timbernardis ()
Date: August 17, 2018 07:45

Re those Metallica-Stones shows at AT & T Park, home of the SF Giants who just beat the Dodgers in LA 2 of 3 games this week and almost swept them, HAIRBALL!!,

but anyway, I went to both those shows and the only time I saw Metallica was when I was on my way up with the group of fans to the "on-stage" seating, er, standing, and I saw Metallica briefly from behind the stage but I wasn't there to see them so I didn't care.

I remember it being said at the time that they had Metallica on the bill to sell more tickets. They played two shows there, same as on the Licks tour, but in 94 and 97 they played FOUR gigs each time just across the bay at the Oakland Coliseum Stadium, which has quite a larger capacity. Wonder if this was about the time the tickets got really expensive. Oh, they also played the Oakland Coliseum Arena on the Licks tour, but no theater gig, which was disappointing.

Here I am going all over the place. Seems I remember that Lars or another band member saying something like a certain Stone(s) was/were jerks but others were really nice. Anyone remember reading something like that?


plexi

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: 35love ()
Date: August 17, 2018 08:03

Well you can’t call me starry eyed after I post
this article by Blabbermouth, fitting this gossipy group

[www.blabbermouth.net]

P.S.
Think the 2005-2007 time frame was chilly. Brrrr cold and chilly.



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Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: Leonioid ()
Date: August 17, 2018 09:53

Awwwwww, Did poor wittle Lars Ulrich get his fwagile fweeelings hurt by the mean old Rolling Stones?
It must have been traumatic for him... and all the more reason for everyone to bash on The Stones, they deserve it, they are so mean.

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Date: August 17, 2018 10:02

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lem motlow
I remember Lars telling that story keefriff99,it was actually worse than you remember it.
Metallica and the third band on the bill,Everclear were standing around talking and just hanging out waiting for the Stones to come by and say hello.
So this lady who was not named walks in and says”ok,Metallica stand on this side and Everclear on that side,the Stones will be here in a minute”
They walked in a few minutes later and said hello to everyone and left about 30 seconds later.Lars said”this was my Rolling Stones experience” sounding half disappointed and half disgusted.

Not a fan of either of these acts but Everclear were popular then and Metallica were huge and still are. It was the only live shows they did that year and the word I got was half the crowd was there for them.(they’re from SF)

To make it worse Lars had put out a really respectful glowing press releases saying how they hadn’t been an opening act for a long time but it was a career highlight to do a show with the Stones.
And they got hall monitor lady and a 30 second hello.anyone who excuses this kind of shit isn’t a fan they’re a hero worshiper

Don't forget this, while you're at it: Ulrich mentioned Mick in particular. «He looked at me like I was about to give him pneumonia or something»...

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: Leonioid ()
Date: August 17, 2018 10:08

Poor poor pitiful Lars, it is miraculous that he was able compose himself and play drums that night,
he must have been shattered... he probably still cries himself to sleep thinking about that mean ole Mick Jagger.

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Date: August 17, 2018 10:25

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Poor poor pitiful Lars, it is miraculous that he was able compose himself and play drums that night,
he must have been shattered... he probably still cries himself to sleep thinking about that mean ole Mick Jagger.

grinning smiley

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: Leonioid ()
Date: August 17, 2018 10:27

smileys with beer DPM smoking smiley

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: keefriff99 ()
Date: August 17, 2018 15:47

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Leonioid
Poor poor pitiful Lars, it is miraculous that he was able compose himself and play drums that night,
he must have been shattered... he probably still cries himself to sleep thinking about that mean ole Mick Jagger.
It figures you'd be the one to blow his rather mild critique out of proportion. grinning smiley

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: keefriff99 ()
Date: August 17, 2018 15:50

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Hairball
I recall that story keefriff99, in fact I was at that show.
Having seen Metallica in the mid-'80's when they were still edgy and relatively unknown, and then seeing them become somewhat diluted and sterile thereafter with their rise in popularity, I opted to stay at a bar with friends pre-show rather than endure them as opening acts. Nothing wrong with them really, but seemed such an odd choice to have as an opening act for a Stones show. I do recall some young knucklehead Metallica fans after the show was over boldly claiming "Metallica blew the Stones away"!!! haha. Perhaps for them it was true, but have to think they were in the minority on that one.

Then again, many claimed AC/DC blew the Stones away at the SARS festival, and it was more than just a few who claimed that - in fact I think it was almost unanimous.
It's hard to compare the Stones to bands like AC/DC and Metallica.

The latter have a heavier, fatter sound, with crunchier guitars, faster tempos and louder PAs. For a casual fan, just the sonic and visual assault would make one think that they were "better".

As a fan of all three bands, they're not good fits for being on the same bill. The Stones and AC/DC are at least both straight-up rock'n'roll, but AC/DC is overpowering. I'd pity any band trying to follow them, even the Stones.

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: lem motlow ()
Date: August 17, 2018 16:20

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Poor poor pitiful Lars, it is miraculous that he was able compose himself and play drums that night,
he must have been shattered... he probably still cries himself to sleep thinking about that mean ole Mick Jagger.
It figures you'd be the one to blow his rather mild critique out of proportion. grinning smiley
I saw him telling the story on television and he wasn’t upset in the least,he was telling it as a kind of puzzling event rather than something that upset him.
He seemed surprised at what a bunch of douches the Stones were,and any fair minded person would say they clearly were.

Leonioid,I see you’re still heading up the rapid response team to put down any dissension in the ranks.Is there anything they could do to make you criticize them? Cmon,there has to be something,
Maybe we should talk about Micks favorite color and Keith’s favorite food so you don’t get upset.

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Date: August 17, 2018 16:27

Metallica's Lars Ulrich Disses The Rolling Stones

Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich commented on opening for THE ROLLING STONES.

"Yeah, it was last year — it was about a year and a half ago out here in San Francisco. We were in the middle of some chill time after the 'St. Anger' tour and one day it was like, 'The STONES wanna know if you wanna open for them in San Francisco,' and it was like, 'Duh, of course, we will. Just name the day and place and we'll be there.' We obviously hadn't opened for anybody for a few years but if you're gonna open for anybody, open for the STONES. I mean, c'mon!

"It's the second show — [we played] two shows [with THE ROLLING STONES] in a row — and some assistant with, like, five walkie-talkies and a water-bottle holder, whatever, comes in before the show and says, 'Do you want your picture taken with THE ROLLING STONES?' We were like, 'You know what? Sure. Why not?' So after our show and then they're getting ready to go on, this assistant comes in and says, 'OK, be ready in five minutes' or whatever. So she comes in, she escorts us into this place in the tunnel leading into the stadium and she says, 'Wait here.' As we're standing in this tunnel, literally, and this band EVERCLEAR — who were playing also — they were kind of like over there on their 'X'. So we're standing there and we go over and say 'Hello' to the guys in EVERCLEAR, 'Hey, how was your show?'

And this assistant comes back and says, 'No. The guys in METALLICA stay here, and the guys in EVERCLEAR stay over here.' We were like, 'Whoaaah.' So then about five minutes later the STONES come in, and I swear they didn't stop — they slowed down their pace, or their walk, just slow enough to get, like, two or three pictures taken, two or three frames shot with EVERCLEAR, and then they came over to where we were standing waiting, and they all looked at us…

No, actually, Charlie Watts said 'Hello' and I think Keith Richards nodded or something, and Mick Jagger looked like we were all gonna give him pneumonia or something — he had this disgusting look on his face. And then they slowed down long enough while the photographer took two or three frames, and then they walked off. And then the assistant came over and said, 'If the band approves the photo, we'll send you a copy.' That kind of sums up THE ROLLING STONES experience. [Laughs]

But being up on stage, that was awesome and the legacy and the whole thing, but that kind of left me with a little bit of a strange taste in my mouth . . . If we ever pulled that, would you come and find me and shoot me? I mean, seriously? But it was a great night and getting a chance to just be part of… If you can sit there and tell your kids, 'I opened for IRON MAIDEN, I opened for DEEP PURPLE, and I opened for THE ROLLING STONES,' then you're pretty much good to go, you know what I mean?"

Source: Metal Hammer

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: ROPENI ()
Date: August 17, 2018 16:34

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Poor poor pitiful Lars, it is miraculous that he was able compose himself and play drums that night,
he must have been shattered... he probably still cries himself to sleep thinking about that mean ole Mick Jagger.
It figures you'd be the one to blow his rather mild critique out of proportion. grinning smiley
I saw him telling the story on television and he wasn’t upset in the least,he was telling it as a kind of puzzling event rather than something that upset him.
He seemed surprised at what a bunch of douches the Stones were,and any fair minded person would say they clearly were.

Leonioid,I see you’re still heading up the rapid response team to put down any dissension in the ranks.Is there anything they could do to make you criticize them? Cmon,there has to be something,
Maybe we should talk about Micks favorite color and Keith’s favorite food so you don’t get upset.

Agreed Lem M,it never ceases to amaze me how intolerant some people here are,what Lars said wasn't insulting at all,he gave his opinion end of the story,but somehow some think that saying anything about The Stones that doesn't agree with their view of the band,will make a you a pariah or the enemy,that kind of attitude reminds of someone in high office that does the same with those that disagree with him,,enuff said....

"No dope smoking no beer sold after 12 o'clock"

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: Dan ()
Date: August 17, 2018 18:25

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Hairball
I recall that story keefriff99, in fact I was at that show.
Having seen Metallica in the mid-'80's when they were still edgy and relatively unknown, and then seeing them become somewhat diluted and sterile thereafter with their rise in popularity, I opted to stay at a bar with friends pre-show rather than endure them as opening acts. Nothing wrong with them really, but seemed such an odd choice to have as an opening act for a Stones show. I do recall some young knucklehead Metallica fans after the show was over boldly claiming "Metallica blew the Stones away"!!! haha. Perhaps for them it was true, but have to think they were in the minority on that one.

Of course it was true. You hid outside so you could pretend it didn't happen.

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: spikenyc ()
Date: August 17, 2018 18:28

Aerosmith ROCKED! the Jimmy Fallon show last night.
Much better performance then the Today show.
These guys can still bring it.

[www.billboard.com]

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: TheGreek ()
Date: August 17, 2018 18:59

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spikenyc
Aerosmith ROCKED! the Jimmy Fallon show last night.
Much better performance then the Today show.
These guys can still bring it.

[www.billboard.com]
That was awesome , thanks for posting . To all the detractors that think they look like sh@# -heck with em . I HAVE TO GET TO VEGAS , no if and or buts .

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: timbernardis ()
Date: August 17, 2018 19:13

well u have to admit that, minimally, the Lars story doesn't exactly paint the Stones in a good light.


plexu

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: keefriff99 ()
Date: August 17, 2018 19:34

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TheGreek
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spikenyc
Aerosmith ROCKED! the Jimmy Fallon show last night.
Much better performance then the Today show.
These guys can still bring it.

[www.billboard.com]
That was awesome , thanks for posting . To all the detractors that think they look like sh@# -heck with em . I HAVE TO GET TO VEGAS , no if and or buts .
Sounding MUCH more awake than on The Today Show. Pretty great performances. Steven is mind-blowing.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-08-17 19:42 by keefriff99.

Re: OT:Aerosmith to play Vegas residency.Stones next ?
Posted by: ROPENI ()
Date: August 17, 2018 19:40

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keefriff99
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TheGreek
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spikenyc
Aerosmith ROCKED! the Jimmy Fallon show last night.
Much better performance then the Today show.
These guys can still bring it.

[www.billboard.com]
That was awesome , thanks for posting . To all the detractors that think they look like sh@# -heck with em . I HAVE TO GET TO VEGAS , no if and or buts .
Sounding MUCH more awake than on GMA. Pretty great performances. Steven is mind-blowing.
Sounding great...thumbs up

"No dope smoking no beer sold after 12 o'clock"

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