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Rocky Dijon
Yeah, I am curious what happened to it. I wondered if we would have heard things like "Thief in the Night" with Mick on lead vocals or "You Don't Have To Mean It" done Tex-Mex style. The problem of course is anyone who works with them describes these lost tracks as "amazing." It's hard to know what is just being star-struck or a yes-man and what truly was a gem worth uncovering. Overall, I tend to agree with Mick and feel they developed their best material and what was relegated to B-sides or left to languish in the vaults was not as strong.
I believe "Ever Changing World" was one of the first tracks Don Was mentioned in an L.A. Times interview around July 1997. If memory serves, most or all of the unreleased tracks James Karnbach and Nico list come from the extensive Rob Fraboni interview with Stones People Magazine at that time.
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Rocky Dijon
Yeah, I am curious what happened to it. I wondered if we would have heard things like "Thief in the Night" with Mick on lead vocals or "You Don't Have To Mean It" done Tex-Mex style. The problem of course is anyone who works with them describes these lost tracks as "amazing." It's hard to know what is just being star-struck or a yes-man and what truly was a gem worth uncovering. Overall, I tend to agree with Mick and feel they developed their best material and what was relegated to B-sides or left to languish in the vaults was not as strong.
I believe "Ever Changing World" was one of the first tracks Don Was mentioned in an L.A. Times interview around July 1997. If memory serves, most or all of the unreleased tracks James Karnbach and Nico list come from the extensive Rob Fraboni interview with Stones People Magazine at that time.
What strikes me is that it should have been two CDs full of "recent" outtakes, some even going back to Steel Wheels. I simply cannot see, even by stretching my imagination as far as possible, even including Steel Wheels, a wealth of finished or nearly finished material that could fill two CDs from this period in terms of unreleased songs (originals or covers). Of course, there are some obvious exceptions like "Your Precious Love", "Ever-Changing World", the fabled superior "raw" Might As Well Get Juiced, but given the Stones working method in the time period in question (trying out a lot of ideas, but working further only on stuff that more or less likely will end up on the album or at least as a single b-side), most anything that fell wayside was more or less in a state that would require substantially more than just some very few finishing touches, give or take some interesting "work-in progess"-takes or mixes of released songs (like the long version of The Storm or Love Is Strong with Keith lead vocals and the like. All probably enough for one CD, but two?
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Rocky Dijon
Yeah, I am curious what happened to it. I wondered if we would have heard things like "Thief in the Night" with Mick on lead vocals or "You Don't Have To Mean It" done Tex-Mex style. The problem of course is anyone who works with them describes these lost tracks as "amazing." It's hard to know what is just being star-struck or a yes-man and what truly was a gem worth uncovering. Overall, I tend to agree with Mick and feel they developed their best material and what was relegated to B-sides or left to languish in the vaults was not as strong.
I believe "Ever Changing World" was one of the first tracks Don Was mentioned in an L.A. Times interview around July 1997. If memory serves, most or all of the unreleased tracks James Karnbach and Nico list come from the extensive Rob Fraboni interview with Stones People Magazine at that time.
What strikes me is that it should have been two CDs full of "recent" outtakes, some even going back to Steel Wheels. I simply cannot see, even by stretching my imagination as far as possible, even including Steel Wheels, a wealth of finished or nearly finished material that could fill two CDs from this period in terms of unreleased songs (originals or covers). Of course, there are some obvious exceptions like "Your Precious Love", "Ever-Changing World", the fabled superior "raw" Might As Well Get Juiced, but given the Stones working method in the time period in question (trying out a lot of ideas, but working further only on stuff that more or less likely will end up on the album or at least as a single b-side), most anything that fell wayside was more or less in a state that would require substantially more than just some very few finishing touches, give or take some interesting "work-in progess"-takes or mixes of released songs (like the long version of The Storm or Love Is Strong with Keith lead vocals and the like. All probably enough for one CD, but two?
What do we know? Not much! For all we know there might be a great bunch of great new songs [there is!] and surprising alternate versions. In fact I think there is a wealth of great material.
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Rocky Dijon
I believe "Ever Changing World" was one of the first tracks Don Was mentioned in an L.A. Times interview around July 1997.
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exilestones
Thank for all of the interesting info.
On a different subject. It sure would have been nice to have a live version of Memory Motel without Dave Mathews ruining it.
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GasLightStreet
Considering what did make BRIDGES TO BABYLON that is terrible and what was not finished for VOODOO LOUNGE and some of the horrible tracks that went on it, Mick's idea of what is good and bad is moot: he has no clue.
GODDESS IN THE DOORWAY is a testament to that.
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GasLightStreet
Considering what did make BRIDGES TO BABYLON that is terrible and what was not finished for VOODOO LOUNGE and some of the horrible tracks that went on it, Mick's idea of what is good and bad is moot: he has no clue.
GODDESS IN THE DOORWAY is a testament to that.
Not to mention the recent Getta Grip/England Lost and the poor reception the single received.
Even with multiple remixes featuring Skepta, etc. - the sterility and "perfection" made them difficult to listen to.
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exilestones
Thank for all of the interesting info.
On a different subject. It sure would have been nice to have a live version of Memory Motel without Dave Mathews ruining it.
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KeithNacho
Year 2000-2002 ???
Recent outtakes????