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laertisflash
"That he's not as bad as the mummy from the 2012 New Jersey Pay per View is the best compliment to give".
You are clearly exaggerating on that, 24FPS...
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mtaylor
Don't judge Keith or Stones playing on crappy youtube videos... have seen the videos and they are nothing comparable with the real thing.
Youtube videos are more than enough to hear out of tune playing, playing in the wrong key, missed notes, sloppy intros etc
When a youtube video is posted because it was a good version of a song with minimal mistakes I don't see people saying that you can't judge from a youtube video...
Can't have it both ways.
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Don't judge Keith or Stones playing on crappy youtube videos... have seen the videos and they are nothing comparable with the real thing.
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Don't judge Keith or Stones playing on crappy youtube videos... have seen the videos and they are nothing comparable with the real thing.
On the contrary, cellphone (or other sources) videos is the real thing. Professional recorded material, on the other hand, seldom is. Since it's usually processed and improved afterwards.
A cellphone video is as real as a photograph. The conditions might not be the best and the photographer a novis. But all the same it's real.
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Anitapal82
When you are present at the shows , the bum notes if any , are such a fleeting moment in the whole huge live experience that they go virtually unnoticed ! When Keith flubbed the start me up intro recently , I was there and it coincided with the start of the show with explosions and excitement, and then ,bang its Mick jagger and look there's Ronnie , and the sound is huge and the show is on ! The mistakes go unnoticed
Yeah, but THIS is pro-shot. People here are bitching about crowd-filmed vids.Quote
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mtaylor
Don't judge Keith or Stones playing on crappy youtube videos... have seen the videos and they are nothing comparable with the real thing.
Listen at 5:18 in this not crappy youtube video...
[www.youtube.com]
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Anitapal82
When you are present at the shows , the bum notes if any , are such a fleeting moment in the whole huge live experience that they go virtually unnoticed ! When Keith flubbed the start me up intro recently , I was there and it coincided with the start of the show with explosions and excitement, and then ,bang its Mick jagger and look there's Ronnie , and the sound is huge and the show is on ! The mistakes go unnoticed
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Anitapal82
When you are present at the shows , the bum notes if any , are such a fleeting moment in the whole huge live experience that they go virtually unnoticed ! When Keith flubbed the start me up intro recently , I was there and it coincided with the start of the show with explosions and excitement, and then ,bang its Mick jagger and look there's Ronnie , and the sound is huge and the show is on ! The mistakes go unnoticed
I suppose that depends on what you focus your attention on. Some focus on the music itself, and others can get swept away with the overall excitement, while for some it's a combo of both.
Speaking for myself, I tend to pay close attention to the music - specifically the guitars, and even more specifically Keith - and that includes the good, the bad, and the ugly, none of which goes unnoticed.
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keefriff99Yeah, but THIS is pro-shot. People here are bitching about crowd-filmed vids.Quote
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mtaylor
Don't judge Keith or Stones playing on crappy youtube videos... have seen the videos and they are nothing comparable with the real thing.
Listen at 5:18 in this not crappy youtube video...
[www.youtube.com]
At any rate...Keith's solos here aren't too bad. This is Oakland '94?
People need to find the unedited Miami PPV SFTD solo...the one that was so bad it was edited out of the VHS and DVD release.
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mtaylor
Don't judge Keith or Stones playing on crappy youtube videos... have seen the videos and they are nothing comparable with the real thing.
On the contrary, cellphone (or other sources) videos is the real thing. Professional recorded material, on the other hand, seldom is. Since it's usually processed and improved afterwards.
A cellphone video is as real as a photograph. The conditions might not be the best and the photographer a novis. But all the same it's real.
It's real AND distorted. I guess the concert-goers heard a bit more of the band than we got on that video
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mtaylor
Don't judge Keith or Stones playing on crappy youtube videos... have seen the videos and they are nothing comparable with the real thing.
On the contrary, cellphone (or other sources) videos is the real thing. Professional recorded material, on the other hand, seldom is. Since it's usually processed and improved afterwards.
A cellphone video is as real as a photograph. The conditions might not be the best and the photographer a novis. But all the same it's real.
It's real AND distorted. I guess the concert-goers heard a bit more of the band than we got on that video
Which can also be said for those cheap tape recorders used to capture bootlegs way back when.
People who are at the concert are celebrating -- but people at home, as with any bootleg, are listening.
So the question is, would you want Mess Me Up in your bootleg collection?
There's a place for certain select cringe-worthy moments, namely:
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There's a place for certain select cringe-worthy moments, namely:
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Anitapal82
When you are present at the shows , the bum notes if any , are such a fleeting moment in the whole huge live experience that they go virtually unnoticed ! When Keith flubbed the start me up intro recently , I was there and it coincided with the start of the show with explosions and excitement, and then ,bang its Mick jagger and look there's Ronnie , and the sound is huge and the show is on ! The mistakes go unnoticed
I suppose that depends on what you focus your attention on. Some focus on the music itself, and others can get swept away with the overall excitement, while for some it's a combo of both.
Speaking for myself, I tend to pay close attention to the music - specifically the guitars, and even more specifically Keith - and that includes the good, the bad, and the ugly, none of which goes unnoticed.
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Anitapal82
When you are present at the shows , the bum notes if any , are such a fleeting moment in the whole huge live experience that they go virtually unnoticed ! When Keith flubbed the start me up intro recently , I was there and it coincided with the start of the show with explosions and excitement, and then ,bang its Mick jagger and look there's Ronnie , and the sound is huge and the show is on ! The mistakes go unnoticed
I suppose that depends on what you focus your attention on. Some focus on the music itself, and others can get swept away with the overall excitement, while for some it's a combo of both.
Speaking for myself, I tend to pay close attention to the music - specifically the guitars, and even more specifically Keith - and that includes the good, the bad, and the ugly, none of which goes unnoticed.
Yes I think it depends on what you're focusing on. When I saw them in Stockholm last year I was very distracted when Keith played an E-chord instead of a B-chord after his solo on SFTD, it kind of ruined the song for me.
But overall it's true that mistakes are less distracting when seeing them live.
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Leonioid
Basically a lipmus test of who ya want to hang around... and who ya want to avoid in life.
Avoid the people who only focus on.... avoid the people who take great pleasure in focusing on.... avoid people who post endlessly about.... 4 seconds of a maybe mistake... while ignoring the other 2 hours of greatness.
Hang out with people who "get it",
Hang out with people who appreciate the whole of a good thing without dwelling on the negative.
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keefriff99Didn't he also botch it at the Hyde Park show in 2013, and it was fixed on the "official" release? I know at the time some people were making excuses for him, saying his scarf was draped over the fretboard, or something.Quote
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That's quite a major doozy of a screw up - especially noticeable as the opening tune, though I realize many have an explanation in defense of it (volume knob, etc).
SMU is the one last major hurdles it seems (Sympathy solo and the Happy intro aside), and if he could just get it right his overall playing would be absolutely perfect and better than it's ever been!!!
At this point, all I can do is laugh, but really...the intro to Start Me Up is SO iconic, especially as as show-opener, that blowing it is really inexcusable.
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Anitapal82
When you are present at the shows , the bum notes if any , are such a fleeting moment in the whole huge live experience that they go virtually unnoticed ! When Keith flubbed the start me up intro recently , I was there and it coincided with the start of the show with explosions and excitement, and then ,bang its Mick jagger and look there's Ronnie , and the sound is huge and the show is on ! The mistakes go unnoticed
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When you are present at the shows , the bum notes if any , are such a fleeting moment in the whole huge live experience that they go virtually unnoticed ! When Keith flubbed the start me up intro recently , I was there and it coincided with the start of the show with explosions and excitement, and then ,bang its Mick jagger and look there's Ronnie , and the sound is huge and the show is on ! The mistakes go unnoticed
I suppose that depends on what you focus your attention on. Some focus on the music itself, and others can get swept away with the overall excitement, while for some it's a combo of both.
Speaking for myself, I tend to pay close attention to the music - specifically the guitars, and even more specifically Keith - and that includes the good, the bad, and the ugly, none of which goes unnoticed.
Yes I think it depends on what you're focusing on. When I saw them in Stockholm last year I was very distracted when Keith played an E-chord instead of a B-chord after his solo on SFTD, it kind of ruined the song for me. But overall it's true that mistakes are less distracting when seeing them live.
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Anitapal82
When you are present at the shows , the bum notes if any , are such a fleeting moment in the whole huge live experience that they go virtually unnoticed ! When Keith flubbed the start me up intro recently , I was there and it coincided with the start of the show with explosions and excitement, and then ,bang its Mick jagger and look there's Ronnie , and the sound is huge and the show is on ! The mistakes go unnoticed
I suppose that depends on what you focus your attention on. Some focus on the music itself, and others can get swept away with the overall excitement, while for some it's a combo of both.
Speaking for myself, I tend to pay close attention to the music - specifically the guitars, and even more specifically Keith - and that includes the good, the bad, and the ugly, none of which goes unnoticed.
Yes I think it depends on what you're focusing on. When I saw them in Stockholm last year I was very distracted when Keith played an E-chord instead of a B-chord after his solo on SFTD, it kind of ruined the song for me. But overall it's true that mistakes are less distracting when seeing them live.
Such occurences will be at odds with the song originals.
But I wonder, may they in certain cases be heard as "spontaneous" variations of the song, that one may enjoy as such? Some good or attractive, others not quite as good, but acceptable, others again outright bad? Or is this always a question of correct and incorrect rendition of song originals and never anything more?