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dmay
FYI: This show is now posted on Dime. Youtube clips make me wanna see it, but they ain't coming to the desert (Phoenix, AZ).
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Roger McGuinn, Chris Hillman, and Marty Stuart’s exclusive one-hour Sweetheart of the Rodeo radio special premieres Friday, July 13 at 8 pm ET. Tune in to hear them reflect on the landmark album, including the addition of the late Gram Parsons to the band, and the Byrds infamous performance at the Grand Ole Opry in 1968, along with tracks from the album and original versions of songs that inspired the project.
Don’t miss rebroadcasts: Saturday, July 14 at 8 am & 5 pm ET; Sunday July 15 at 1 am, 12 pm & 9 pm ET.
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A little confused by his rationale although I guess it doesn't matter. He seems very hellbent on saying this isn't the Byrds when we all really know it is. At least that era of the Byrds, minus Gram of course. Sure, it would be great to have Crosby with them too, but he wasn't on this album which makes up a majority of the setlist. Don't really care either way, its still cool they are doing it. But its strange how much he wants to stress its not the Byrds when I think if they did this tour as that no one would bat an eye.
Also seems like yet another band with a very weird band dynamic. That Roger and David like each other but Roger seems to not have any interest playing with him at all, Byrds or otherwise. Super strange.
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A little confused by his rationale although I guess it doesn't matter. He seems very hellbent on saying this isn't the Byrds when we all really know it is. At least that era of the Byrds, minus Gram of course. Sure, it would be great to have Crosby with them too, but he wasn't on this album which makes up a majority of the setlist. Don't really care either way, its still cool they are doing it. But its strange how much he wants to stress its not the Byrds when I think if they did this tour as that no one would bat an eye.
Also seems like yet another band with a very weird band dynamic. That Roger and David like each other but Roger seems to not have any interest playing with him at all, Byrds or otherwise. Super strange.
It's kinda like when Jimmy Page and Robert Plant toured in the 1990s. They didn't call it Led Zeppelin, but in hindsight, those were the Led Zeppelin reunion tours. And in the same way Page and Plant refused to play "Stairway," in order to hammer home the point that it wasn't Led Zeppelin, it appears that McGuinn and Hillman have chosen to conspicuously omit their "Stairway," by not doing what is far and away their best song, "Eight Miles High."
And before anyone tries to tell me that they can't play EMH because it's too psychedelic to be part of a country music performance, consider this recording, which can be found on Chris Hillman's 2005 album, The Other Side.
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dmay
My first time trying this. Hopefully this link to the show works for y'all. If not, let me know what I need to do to properly load the link.
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tatters
...And in the same way Page and Plant refused to play "Stairway," in order to hammer home the point that it wasn't Led Zeppelin, it appears that McGuinn and Hillman have chosen to conspicuously omit their "Stairway," by not doing what is far and away their best song, "Eight Miles High."
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RollingFreak
A little confused by his rationale although I guess it doesn't matter. He seems very hellbent on saying this isn't the Byrds when we all really know it is. At least that era of the Byrds, minus Gram of course. Sure, it would be great to have Crosby with them too, but he wasn't on this album which makes up a majority of the setlist. Don't really care either way, its still cool they are doing it. But its strange how much he wants to stress its not the Byrds when I think if they did this tour as that no one would bat an eye.
Because it's not The Byrds. And in this day and age you cash in on a band's legacy while still forsaking the actual name.Quote
Also seems like yet another band with a very weird band dynamic. That Roger and David like each other but Roger seems to not have any interest playing with him at all, Byrds or otherwise. Super strange.
There really is no dynamic to speak of as Roger was the only constant member. And I don't think anyone, anywhere has any interest in playing with David.
I go to Byrds concert in Central Park NY circa 1967 and no David Crosby! Only four guys He had gotten the boot.
Roger is a religious Christian
Chris Hillman goes to Greek Orthodox church due to his wife who was born into it.
**** Dave Crosby is uncontrollable godless heathen and not needed on this tour....in fact he would make it implode
Just ask Graham Nash who cannot bear to be w Dave these days
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Kurt
But 'Eight Miles High' is a Crosby song...
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These shows are the brainchild of Marty Stuart...
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tatters
...And in the same way Page and Plant refused to play "Stairway," in order to hammer home the point that it wasn't Led Zeppelin, it appears that McGuinn and Hillman have chosen to conspicuously omit their "Stairway," by not doing what is far and away their best song, "Eight Miles High."
But 'Eight Miles High' is a Crosby song...
this tour isn't about David Crosby at all.
(and I'm not in agreement that 8MH is "far and away their best song")
These shows are the brainchild of Marty Stuart to celebrate an album.
An album that simultaneously turned the rock world and the country world upside-down. Anything else that they choose to play in concert is a bonus.
Frankly, if Crosby was involved then I wouldn't be going.
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Kurt
But 'Eight Miles High' is a Crosby song...
Song's credited to Clark, McGuinn and Crosby.
McGuinn refutes Gene Clark's claim that the song was all his.
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...And in the same way Page and Plant refused to play "Stairway," in order to hammer home the point that it wasn't Led Zeppelin, it appears that McGuinn and Hillman have chosen to conspicuously omit their "Stairway," by not doing what is far and away their best song, "Eight Miles High."
But 'Eight Miles High' is a Crosby song...
this tour isn't about David Crosby at all.
(and I'm not in agreement that 8MH is "far and away their best song")
These shows are the brainchild of Marty Stuart to celebrate an album.
An album that simultaneously turned the rock world and the country world upside-down. Anything else that they choose to play in concert is a bonus.
Frankly, if Crosby was involved then I wouldn't be going.
"Eight Miles High" is mostly a Gene Clark song. Crosby's contribution consists of a single line of the lyrics. I get that they're trying, in the opening set, to show how the Byrds were always a little bit country by playing pre-SOTR songs that prove that they were already well on their way to becoming a country band long before Gram Parsons arrived on the scene. But if they're also doing non-country hits like "Mr. Tambourine Man" and "Turn, Turn, Turn," which they are, then I don't see why they can't also work up a stripped-down, mandolin and acoustic guitar version of "Eight Miles High" like this one here:
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I'd much prefer to hear that as an encore over the tribute to Tom Petty that they're currently doing, which, frankly, doesn't make a whole lot of sense within the context of a country-themed show.
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Chris Fountain
Not sure why certain remote venues are chosen - best believe- it will be a pricey ticket.
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tatters
Apparently, they did the Tom Petty encore (without Mike Campbell) at the show in Northern California this past Sunday, so it looks like they may be keeping it when the tour resumes in September. It's not hard to see why they love TP. He was heavily influenced by the Byrds and used those influences to achieve great success, but performing several of his songs as an encore just seems .... unseemly. A great artist, no doubt, but from their point of view, still basically just a very talented and successful Byrds fan. It would be like Paul McCartney encoring with a bunch of Jeff Lynne songs. Or Robert Plant singing "Crazy on You" and "Barracuda." It violates all the known laws of show business, which clearly state that you pay tribute to your predecessors (and maybe your contemporaries, if you're so inclined), while heaping derision upon those who came after you and stole from you. If they're going to pay tribute to anyone, it should be Gene Clark.
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Chris Fountain
Not sure why certain remote venues are chosen - best believe- it will be a pricey ticket.
Ticket prices vary depending on the market. At Town Hall, a 1500 seat theater in New York City, prices top out at $277, while at the Akron Civic Theater in Ohio, the most expensive seat is only $93.
I think they're doing their best to book as many suitable venues as possible, but, as is often the case in this business, the venues they'd like to appear at aren't always able to "make the numbers work."
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NYC ticket prices were $49, $79 and $99. Where's that $277 from?