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LongBeachArena72This is what I know and what my ears hear when I have attended shows .Keith's volume is turned up loud during intros , solos and certain trademark licks that are his, for instance his trademark open G chord that he starts Honky Tonk with ,then his volume is reduced .Ditto for the official live release from the vault and other live official live recordings .Proof ? check out any live boots from the past couple of tours .Quote
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The good overall sound and how the band swings is ditto hard to get through a cellphone recording.
Of course you can hear mistakes and cool licks, but the punch you get in your gut in a concert will never be there.
I concur with that, every VHS and DVD release of the Stones has Keith way way down in the mix. Imagine how great it would have been to hear Keith really loud when he was playing great pre 05'
I know. This is yet another example of that conspiratorial creep Jagger keeping his erstwhile buddy under his thumb while he directs the musical output of the band. You know what we need to do, don't you? FREE KEITH!
If you don't believe me listen to the Keith playing Brown Sugar at the Fonda gig.
(Its just been released as a taster )
Compare Keith's guitar in that mix to Keith's sound at any gig since 2012. Keith is so low in the official release of live recordings.
I get the feeling Keith has a deal, Keith gets to blast his guitar every night live, but accepts it has to be toned down for official DVD or Blue Ray releases.
I am not a technician and i don't know who is responsible for Keith's guitar volume on DVD release, it might have absolutely nothing to do with Mick for all i know. All i do know is on the recordings i have, the guitars are no where near as loud as when at the show or on youtube.
FREE YOURSELF
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I think Ronnie should play the solo on SFTD, I imagine it would be great. It's such a lackluster opener for a concert when it's starts with a weak solo.
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I think Ronnie should play the solo on SFTD, I imagine it would be great. It's such a lackluster opener for a concert when it's starts with a weak solo.
It doesn't start with a weak solo.
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I think Ronnie should play the solo on SFTD, I imagine it would be great. It's such a lackluster opener for a concert when it's starts with a weak solo.
It doesn't start with a weak solo.
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RaiseTheKnife
I think Ronnie should play the solo on SFTD, I imagine it would be great. It's such a lackluster opener for a concert when it's starts with a weak solo.
It doesn't start with a weak solo.
Good call although can ronnie do it?
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I think Ronnie should play the solo on SFTD, I imagine it would be great. It's such a lackluster opener for a concert when it's starts with a weak solo.
It doesn't start with a weak solo.
Good call although can ronnie do it?
He would lift the whole song if he took the solo. Ever since 1989 he's never had a chance to solo over SFTD and he could at least by given the ''second solo''.
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[I am not a technician and i don't know who is responsible for Keith's guitar volume on DVD release, ... All i do know is on the recordings i have, the guitars are no where near as loud as when at the show or on youtube.
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RaiseTheKnife
I think Ronnie should play the solo on SFTD, I imagine it would be great. It's such a lackluster opener for a concert when it's starts with a weak solo.
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I think Ronnie should play the solo on SFTD, I imagine it would be great. It's such a lackluster opener for a concert when it's starts with a weak solo.
That should never happen IMO, it's Keith's to have and to hold.....
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I think Ronnie should play the solo on SFTD, I imagine it would be great. It's such a lackluster opener for a concert when it's starts with a weak solo.
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stone4ever
Its common sense man, what is wrong with you.
Have been periodically asking myself that for the better part of my adult life.
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I think Ronnie should play the solo on SFTD, I imagine it would be great. It's such a lackluster opener for a concert when it's starts with a weak solo.
It doesn't start with a weak solo.
Good call although can ronnie do it?
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StonedRambler
Just came across this Sympathy version from the second O2 show, what a great solo! Wonder why he doesn't do those high notes anymore..
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I watched a few clips and it doesn't look good overall, not to mention Keith. Sasha looked uncomfortable going to do her bit during Gimme Shelter. It just wasn't clicking. When I think of Gimme Shelter live I think of the ending of the film and how awesome that was. But that was 48 years ago. It still feels strange mentioning such large distances in time.
The staging and lighting is amazing, something fresh and new. Four giant cell phone tower monoliths with little tiny ants below. It's like there is a disconnect between the super high tech staging and lighting and the old fogies performing on it. I can imagine the ("old") '81 Stones on that amazing stage doing amazing things. Realistically, that's a stage that was made for someone 40 years younger. For example, I can imagine a Katy Perry show on that stage and Katy and her band and her dancers completely blowing the audience away.
Sometimes Keith looked like a lost old man hobbling about on stage. He really looked like he wasn't enjoying himself and was saying to himself, "What am I doing here?"
Yes, the clip of Jumping Jack Flash sounded pretty good, but one song doesn't make a concert. And it looked to me like the audience was not moving at all, just taking in a sound and light show spectacle, almost like there wasn't even a band performing.
And it is kooky to read people saying that they were "fantastic" and "never sounded better." Is there some kind of subliminal brainwashing going on? Likewise for the people with "broken hearts" that are so "offended." You appreciate good art when it is truly good, and the boys have done some really good art in their time.
I hope the rest of this mini tour is not a cringe fest, but that remains to be seen. If it is, the Stones are going to have to be honest with themselves and do some soul searching. Like really, why not retire in your own personal nirvana?
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Just came across this Sympathy version from the second O2 show, what a great solo! Wonder why he doesn't do those high notes anymore..
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This clip isn't Sympathy.
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stone4ever
I like Keith's new version, the charisma of the man from 2.45 seconds in on the solo is just, oh i don't know. Unfortunately man recording with mobile misses the next solo and we get to see Mick doing what can only be described as wafting farts.
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I like Keith's new version, the charisma of the man from 2.45 seconds in on the solo is just, oh i don't know. Unfortunately man recording with mobile misses the next solo and we get to see Mick doing what can only be described as wafting farts.
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Actually, that would be the worst way to describe it.
Best and most accurate would be .. "and we get to see Mick doing what he does better than anyone who ever lived. Strutting and moving like.. Jagger!"
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Midnight Toker
This is one of the worst solos by Keith in recent memory. I can say that because I have been playing for 45 years and I know every song note for note including all of Mick Taylor's solos.Let Ronnie play the solo form now on, please.
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I like Keith's new version, the charisma of the man from 2.45 seconds in on the solo is just, oh i don't know. Unfortunately man recording with mobile misses the next solo and we get to see Mick doing what can only be described as wafting farts.
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Actually, that would be the worst way to describe it.
Best and most accurate would be .. "and we get to see Mick doing what he does better than anyone who ever lived. Strutting and moving like.. Jagger!"
I would rather have seen Keith on his second solo if its all the same.
Do you have to keep telling me how to describe Mick, if you don't mind i have my own mind, what Mick was doing while Keith took the solo looked exactly like i said to my eyes.
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MileHigh
Does it really matter?
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I watched a few clips and it doesn't look good overall, not to mention Keith. Sasha looked uncomfortable going to do her bit during Gimme Shelter. It just wasn't clicking. When I think of Gimme Shelter live I think of the ending of the film and how awesome that was. But that was 48 years ago. It still feels strange mentioning such large distances in time.
The staging and lighting is amazing, something fresh and new. Four giant cell phone tower monoliths with little tiny ants below. It's like there is a disconnect between the super high tech staging and lighting and the old fogies performing on it. I can imagine the ("old") '81 Stones on that amazing stage doing amazing things. Realistically, that's a stage that was made for someone 40 years younger. For example, I can imagine a Katy Perry show on that stage and Katy and her band and her dancers completely blowing the audience away.
Sometimes Keith looked like a lost old man hobbling about on stage. He really looked like he wasn't enjoying himself and was saying to himself, "What am I doing here?"
Yes, the clip of Jumping Jack Flash sounded pretty good, but one song doesn't make a concert. And it looked to me like the audience was not moving at all, just taking in a sound and light show spectacle, almost like there wasn't even a band performing.
And it is kooky to read people saying that they were "fantastic" and "never sounded better." Is there some kind of subliminal brainwashing going on? Likewise for the people with "broken hearts" that are so "offended." You appreciate good art when it is truly good, and the boys have done some really good art in their time.
I hope the rest of this mini tour is not a cringe fest, but that remains to be seen. If it is, the Stones are going to have to be honest with themselves and do some soul searching. Like really, why not retire in your own personal nirvana?
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I like Keith's new version, the charisma of the man from 2.45 seconds in on the solo is just, oh i don't know. Unfortunately man recording with mobile misses the next solo and we get to see Mick doing what can only be described as wafting farts.
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Actually, that would be the worst way to describe it.
Best and most accurate would be .. "and we get to see Mick doing what he does better than anyone who ever lived. Strutting and moving like.. Jagger!"
I would rather have seen Keith on his second solo if its all the same.
Do you have to keep telling me how to describe Mick, if you don't mind i have my own mind, what Mick was doing while Keith took the solo looked exactly like i said to my eyes.
Some fuxed up eyes, for an alleged fan.
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well i'm staying annoyed with him;