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I prefer the blues and rock Stones.

Thank goodness that The Stones are MUCH more than blues and rock!
It's one of the very reasons why I rate them way above bands such as The Faces or Aerosmith. The Stones were not afraid of adding textures to their approach. Otherwise you might as well be listening to AC/DC.

But when you compare something like Luxury to Bob Marley or Hot Stuff to Meters, it just makes the Stones look inept.

That's more than accurate.

Why compare then, as there is no musical reason for comparison?

If you want hear what quality reggae sounds like then listen to Bob Marley not the Stones. The whole reggae/disco stuff smacks of the Stones trying to remain relevant and following current trends. Later the same thing happened with the drum loops and samples on Bridges To Babylon. Earlier the trend happened on Their Satanic Majesties Request when they tried to adopt the psychedelia of the day but it really only worked on a couple of tracks.

Their earlier blues/r&b influenced material sounded more genuine and much of it was ahead of the trend in the U.S. at least as blues had fallen out of favor here. They were actually paying tribute to their own heroes which made it seem more sincere.

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I love B&B.
It's the first Stones album I bought.Still have that copy.

The only weak track to me is Cherry Oh Baby.
And in reply to a poster above,wasn't Luxury an earlier attempt at reggae than COB ?

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I prefer the blues and rock Stones.

Thank goodness that The Stones are MUCH more than blues and rock!
It's one of the very reasons why I rate them way above bands such as The Faces or Aerosmith. The Stones were not afraid of adding textures to their approach. Otherwise you might as well be listening to AC/DC.

But when you compare something like Luxury to Bob Marley or Hot Stuff to Meters, it just makes the Stones look inept.

That's more than accurate.

Why compare then, as there is no musical reason for comparison?

If you want hear what quality reggae sounds like then listen to Bob Marley not the Stones. The whole reggae/disco stuff smacks of the Stones trying to remain relevant and following current trends. Later the same thing happened with the drum loops and samples on Bridges To Babylon. Earlier the trend happened on Their Satanic Majesties Request when they tried to adopt the psychedelia of the day but it really only worked on a couple of tracks.

Their earlier blues/r&b influenced material sounded more genuine and much of it was ahead of the trend in the U.S. at least as blues had fallen out of favor here. They were actually paying tribute to their own heroes which made it seem more sincere.

The reggae-stuff, starting with the brilliant I Got A Letter during the GHS-sessions, happened because Keith got a house in Jamaica and loved the music.

Luxury is a rock tune, albeit with some Caribbean influences. Hot Stuff is good funk track.

Either you love the Stones-sound or you don't. If you don't you'll prefer to put on Muddy Waters, Joe Tex, Merle Haggard, Jimmy Cliff or Chuck Berry if you're a purist, right?

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I prefer the blues and rock Stones.

Thank goodness that The Stones are MUCH more than blues and rock!
It's one of the very reasons why I rate them way above bands such as The Faces or Aerosmith. The Stones were not afraid of adding textures to their approach. Otherwise you might as well be listening to AC/DC.

But when you compare something like Luxury to Bob Marley or Hot Stuff to Meters, it just makes the Stones look inept.

That's more than accurate.

Why compare then, as there is no musical reason for comparison?

If you want hear what quality reggae sounds like then listen to Bob Marley not the Stones. The whole reggae/disco stuff smacks of the Stones trying to remain relevant and following current trends. Later the same thing happened with the drum loops and samples on Bridges To Babylon. Earlier the trend happened on Their Satanic Majesties Request when they tried to adopt the psychedelia of the day but it really only worked on a couple of tracks.

Their earlier blues/r&b influenced material sounded more genuine and much of it was ahead of the trend in the U.S. at least as blues had fallen out of favor here. They were actually paying tribute to their own heroes which made it seem more sincere.

The reggae-stuff, starting with the brilliant I Got A Letter during the GHS-sessions, happened because Keith got a house in Jamaica and loved the music.

Luxury is a rock tune, albeit with some Caribbean influences. Hot Stuff is good funk track.

Either you love the Stones-sound or you don't. If you don't you'll prefer to put on Muddy Waters, Joe Tex, Merle Haggard, Jimmy Cliff or Chuck Berry if you're a purist, right?

Yes, I am aware of how Keith got into reggae. I have a single with Run Rudolph Run and The Harder They Come by Keith in fact. However, I got it for the Chuck Berry cover.

I prefer the original versions of their cover tunes. However, the earlier stuff was more genuine and sincere in my opinion as they were influenced by and covering the material of their heroes as I said before. I seriously doubt the Dust Brothers or any number of disco artists were their heroes.

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The reggae-stuff, starting with the brilliant I Got A Letter during the GHS-sessions, happened because Keith got a house in Jamaica and loved the music.

Luxury is a rock tune, albeit with some Caribbean influences. Hot Stuff is good funk track.
Either you love the Stones-sound or you don't. If you don't you'll prefer to put on Muddy Waters, Joe Tex, Merle Haggard, Jimmy Cliff or Chuck Berry if you're a purist, right?

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I prefer the blues and rock Stones.

Thank goodness that The Stones are MUCH more than blues and rock!
It's one of the very reasons why I rate them way above bands such as The Faces or Aerosmith. The Stones were not afraid of adding textures to their approach. Otherwise you might as well be listening to AC/DC.

But when you compare something like Luxury to Bob Marley or Hot Stuff to Meters, it just makes the Stones look inept.

That's more than accurate.

Why compare then, as there is no musical reason for comparison?

If you want hear what quality reggae sounds like then listen to Bob Marley not the Stones. The whole reggae/disco stuff smacks of the Stones trying to remain relevant and following current trends. Later the same thing happened with the drum loops and samples on Bridges To Babylon. Earlier the trend happened on Their Satanic Majesties Request when they tried to adopt the psychedelia of the day but it really only worked on a couple of tracks.

Their earlier blues/r&b influenced material sounded more genuine and much of it was ahead of the trend in the U.S. at least as blues had fallen out of favor here. They were actually paying tribute to their own heroes which made it seem more sincere.

The reggae-stuff, starting with the brilliant I Got A Letter during the GHS-sessions, happened because Keith got a house in Jamaica and loved the music.

Luxury is a rock tune, albeit with some Caribbean influences. Hot Stuff is good funk track.

Either you love the Stones-sound or you don't. If you don't you'll prefer to put on Muddy Waters, Joe Tex, Merle Haggard, Jimmy Cliff or Chuck Berry if you're a purist, right?

Yes, I am aware of how Keith got into reggae. I have a single with Run Rudolph Run and The Harder They Come by Keith in fact. However, I got it for the Chuck Berry cover.

I prefer the original versions of their cover tunes. However, the earlier stuff was more genuine and sincere in my opinion as they were influenced by and covering the material of their heroes as I said before. I seriously doubt the Dust Brothers or any number of disco artists were their heroes.

Heroes are for children...(imo at any rate)...........Mick certainly liked Bob Marley (does this allow him to attempt reggae?.......in fact, he said "Bob Marley - Live at the Roxy (disc 2) is one of his all time faves"............and disco........well, he certainly spent enough time in Studio 54 so he can't dislike it...........can he?

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I prefer the blues and rock Stones.

Thank goodness that The Stones are MUCH more than blues and rock!
It's one of the very reasons why I rate them way above bands such as The Faces or Aerosmith. The Stones were not afraid of adding textures to their approach. Otherwise you might as well be listening to AC/DC.

But when you compare something like Luxury to Bob Marley or Hot Stuff to Meters, it just makes the Stones look inept.

That's more than accurate.

Why compare then, as there is no musical reason for comparison?

If you want hear what quality reggae sounds like then listen to Bob Marley not the Stones. The whole reggae/disco stuff smacks of the Stones trying to remain relevant and following current trends. Later the same thing happened with the drum loops and samples on Bridges To Babylon. Earlier the trend happened on Their Satanic Majesties Request when they tried to adopt the psychedelia of the day but it really only worked on a couple of tracks.

Their earlier blues/r&b influenced material sounded more genuine and much of it was ahead of the trend in the U.S. at least as blues had fallen out of favor here. They were actually paying tribute to their own heroes which made it seem more sincere.

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In short, my point was that we can enjoy both - as long as we find it good. No reason for comparing, really.

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I prefer the blues and rock Stones.

Thank goodness that The Stones are MUCH more than blues and rock!
It's one of the very reasons why I rate them way above bands such as The Faces or Aerosmith. The Stones were not afraid of adding textures to their approach. Otherwise you might as well be listening to AC/DC.

But when you compare something like Luxury to Bob Marley or Hot Stuff to Meters, it just makes the Stones look inept.

That's more than accurate.

Why compare then, as there is no musical reason for comparison?

If you want hear what quality reggae sounds like then listen to Bob Marley not the Stones. The whole reggae/disco stuff smacks of the Stones trying to remain relevant and following current trends. Later the same thing happened with the drum loops and samples on Bridges To Babylon. Earlier the trend happened on Their Satanic Majesties Request when they tried to adopt the psychedelia of the day but it really only worked on a couple of tracks.

Their earlier blues/r&b influenced material sounded more genuine and much of it was ahead of the trend in the U.S. at least as blues had fallen out of favor here. They were actually paying tribute to their own heroes which made it seem more sincere.

It's not listening to Stones for 'reggae' , same as it's not listening to the Stones for country or any other genre ... it's the Stones, period. One can listen and enjoy Luxury without having to think 'Marley has better tracks'. Seems like you're trying to say ... get the best track possible, and then listen to nothing else.

Anyway as far as reggae goes, Stones do it incredible justice. I'll hear people try to say The Police are reggae, it makes me laugh, Stones are 99% more reggae than the Police ever came close to. I actually really like The Clash reggae tunes, but still, they don't give you that legit reggae feel like the Stones can.

Marley is great, the best, or close to it anyway ... doesn't mean you can't listen to others.

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I prefer the blues and rock Stones.

Thank goodness that The Stones are MUCH more than blues and rock!
It's one of the very reasons why I rate them way above bands such as The Faces or Aerosmith. The Stones were not afraid of adding textures to their approach. Otherwise you might as well be listening to AC/DC.

But when you compare something like Luxury to Bob Marley or Hot Stuff to Meters, it just makes the Stones look inept.

That's more than accurate.

Why compare then, as there is no musical reason for comparison?

If you want hear what quality reggae sounds like then listen to Bob Marley not the Stones. The whole reggae/disco stuff smacks of the Stones trying to remain relevant and following current trends. Later the same thing happened with the drum loops and samples on Bridges To Babylon. Earlier the trend happened on Their Satanic Majesties Request when they tried to adopt the psychedelia of the day but it really only worked on a couple of tracks.

Their earlier blues/r&b influenced material sounded more genuine and much of it was ahead of the trend in the U.S. at least as blues had fallen out of favor here. They were actually paying tribute to their own heroes which made it seem more sincere.

It's not listening to Stones for 'reggae' , same as it's not listening to the Stones for country or any other genre ... it's the Stones, period. One can listen and enjoy Luxury without having to think 'Marley has better tracks'. Seems like you're trying to say ... get the best track possible, and then listen to nothing else.

Anyway as far as reggae goes, Stones do it incredible justice. I'll hear people try to say The Police are reggae, it makes me laugh, Stones are 99% more reggae than the Police ever came close to. I actually really like The Clash reggae tunes, but still, they don't give you that legit reggae feel like the Stones can.

Marley is great, the best, or close to it anyway ... doesn't mean you can't listen to others.

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I prefer the blues and rock Stones.

Thank goodness that The Stones are MUCH more than blues and rock!
It's one of the very reasons why I rate them way above bands such as The Faces or Aerosmith. The Stones were not afraid of adding textures to their approach. Otherwise you might as well be listening to AC/DC.

But when you compare something like Luxury to Bob Marley or Hot Stuff to Meters, it just makes the Stones look inept.

That's more than accurate.

Why compare then, as there is no musical reason for comparison?

If you want hear what quality reggae sounds like then listen to Bob Marley not the Stones. The whole reggae/disco stuff smacks of the Stones trying to remain relevant and following current trends. Later the same thing happened with the drum loops and samples on Bridges To Babylon. Earlier the trend happened on Their Satanic Majesties Request when they tried to adopt the psychedelia of the day but it really only worked on a couple of tracks.

Their earlier blues/r&b influenced material sounded more genuine and much of it was ahead of the trend in the U.S. at least as blues had fallen out of favor here. They were actually paying tribute to their own heroes which made it seem more sincere.

It's not listening to Stones for 'reggae' , same as it's not listening to the Stones for country or any other genre ... it's the Stones, period. One can listen and enjoy Luxury without having to think 'Marley has better tracks'. Seems like you're trying to say ... get the best track possible, and then listen to nothing else.

Anyway as far as reggae goes, Stones do it incredible justice. I'll hear people try to say The Police are reggae, it makes me laugh, Stones are 99% more reggae than the Police ever came close to. I actually really like The Clash reggae tunes, but still, they don't give you that legit reggae feel like the Stones can.

Marley is great, the best, or close to it anyway ... doesn't mean you can't listen to others.

I put multi band cd on shuffle the other day and this track came on and I thought...."I don't remember Lee 'Scratch' Perry being on this......then I realised, it was the Stones' Feel on - dub version...........superb

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In short, my point was that we can enjoy both - as long as we find it good. No reason for comparing, really.

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In short, my point was that we can enjoy both - as long as we find it good. No reason for comparing, really.

Right. And to sum that up, it's why I don't listen to Luxury or Cherry Oh Baby.

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In short, my point was that we can enjoy both - as long as we find it good. No reason for comparing, really.

Right. And to sum that up, it's why I don't listen to Luxury or Cherry Oh Baby.

And Marley you listen to endlessly? I'm not gonna ask about the Meters. That came with the mother's milk over there at your place, right?

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In short, my point was that we can enjoy both - as long as we find it good. No reason for comparing, really.

Right. And to sum that up, it's why I don't listen to Luxury or Cherry Oh Baby.

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In short, my point was that we can enjoy both - as long as we find it good. No reason for comparing, really.

Right. And to sum that up, it's why I don't listen to Luxury or Cherry Oh Baby.

Luxury is one of the most enjoyable songs on IORR. Absolutely no reason to skip this one. I think most bands back then would have been lucky to have a song like Luxury to release it as a single. Nice rocker with slight caribbean influences, I love it.