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Not to condone behavior that many of us find reprehensible, but ...
Isn't it to at least a certain extent just the human condition to be a mass of contradictions and complexity? Haven't horrible people written novels that moved and inspired centuries of readers? Haven't politicians who are serial philanderers enacted legislation which has made the lives of millions better? Haven't businessman who are rapacious cutthroats also founded schools for the poor which have helped untold numbers of kids that would have otherwise fallen through the cracks?
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stanlove
One problem is people are comparing him to other people who just went around screwing young kids. Wyyman married her and she and her family were fine with the whole thing. He fell in love with a young girl and married her. Once again older men fell in love and married younger females throughout human history . It was only in the last few decades that people started to say this was wrong. I am not going to judge a guy who happened to fall in love with and marry a young female 40 years ago. I think people who do are ridiculous.
I would like to see the consent age in every country in the world right now. People are acting like this was tragic but I would bet it is going on in tons of places and they would never say anything about it.
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stanlove
One problem is people are comparing him to other people who just went around screwing young kids. Wyyman married her and she and her family were fine with the whole thing. He fell in love with a young girl and married her. Once again older men fell in love and married younger females throughout human history . It was only in the last few decades that people started to say this was wrong. I am not going to judge a guy who happened to fall in love with and marry a young female 40 years ago. I think people who do are ridiculous.
I would like to see the consent age in every country in the world right now. People are acting like this was tragic but I would bet it is going on in tons of places and they would never say anything about it.
Yeah...human history...well known for all kinds of strange, bizarre, whatever behaviour, tradition, obsessions...
You don't judge him...fine.
But you judge other people, who might have another opinion, for more or less good reasons.
That's a double standard par excellence...
Do you have children ? Maybe a 13 year old daughter informing you about a (sexual) relation with a 50 year old rockstar...sure you'll remind yourself immediately of human history...But as long as the rockstar will marry your daughter, you'll be "fine with the whole thing"...?
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stanlove
One problem is people are comparing him to other people who just went around screwing young kids. Wyyman married her and she and her family were fine with the whole thing. He fell in love with a young girl and married her. Once again older men fell in love and married younger females throughout human history . It was only in the last few decades that people started to say this was wrong. I am not going to judge a guy who happened to fall in love with and marry a young female 40 years ago. I think people who do are ridiculous.
I would like to see the consent age in every country in the world right now. People are acting like this was tragic but I would bet it is going on in tons of places and they would never say anything about it.
Yeah...human history...well known for all kinds of strange, bizarre, whatever behaviour, tradition, obsessions...
You don't judge him...fine.
But you judge other people, who might have another opinion, for more or less good reasons.
That's a double standard par excellence...
Do you have children ? Maybe a 13 year old daughter informing you about a (sexual) relation with a 50 year old rockstar...sure you'll remind yourself immediately of human history...
But as long as the rockstar will marry your daughter, you'll be "fine with the whole thing"...?
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35love
THIS TOPIC HAS BEEN BEAT TO DEATH
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Hairball
Ted Nugent was another cradle robber by his own admission - including Courtney Love when she was only 12 (according to her).
And then he met an older gal who was 17 - still under the legal age limit, so Ted legally adopted her with her parents consent.
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35love
THIS TOPIC HAS BEEN BEAT TO DEATH
It's rarely talked about.
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35love
If you are a Rolling Stones fan, it HAS been talked to death, you should know all about it.
This is a RS fan board. If you want to debate morality, maybe find another band.
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Hi Doxa, basically you say that anyone who judges Bill, like I do, can’t be a Stones fan but is a so-called fan. It reminds me of the Bush doctrine: if you are not with us, you are against us. Judging Bill hasn’t got anything to do with high morals. It’s all about normal morals. I can’t believe especially a woman is defending his appaling actions. It’s like the Stockholm syndrome: the Stones held you hostage musically for decades, somehow Re-engineered your moral standards and now they can’t do anything wrong in your view.
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35love
If you are a Rolling Stones fan, it HAS been talked to death, you should know all about it.
This is a RS fan board. If you want to debate morality, maybe find another band.
Lol.
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35love
If you are a Rolling Stones fan, it HAS been talked to death, you should know all about it.
This is a RS fan board. If you want to debate morality, maybe find another band.
Lol.
Setlists have also been talked to death....maybe time for all of us to find another board...lol...
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35love
I was worried I wrote ‘mortality’ instead of ‘morality’
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35love
I was worried I wrote ‘mortality’ instead of ‘morality’
Time to find another band.