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Mick in 1989:
I was so insistent that we put out a new album, because I thought the Stones were becoming just a nostalgia thing. And they are nostalgia. They're out there selling their catalog and we're playing these old songs because a lot of them people want to hear. But you've got to put out new things. You've got to think for the future. The past is the past. It's gone, thank you very much.
Mick in 2020:
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If they're still capable of deceiving you, that's on you. This contempt thing is a chuckle. Was already wondering when Mick's ineptitude would come into it, but you never disappoint
I'm consistent, and over time my thoughts usually turn out right.
Crosseyed Heart was a blow to Mick's ego, it was shockingly good and Mick is having trouble coming to terms with the fact that Keith can deliver great music this late in the game, Mick is struggling creatively, that's evident to all but a few on here. 15 years with nothing to shout about, It happens to musicians at Mick's age, writers block is one word for it, but it's not even that, he just can't make great music anymore period. I'm not picking on him, it's just a fact. Hope the new album proves me wrong though.
What i don't understand is why don't Mick and Keith make an album up from previously unfinished tracks if they have hit a wall. There must be enough good material left that didn't make it on various albums to make a fantastic double album of originals. That's what Tattoo You was, unfinished tracks from up to a decade before.
I agree with posters above, Crosseyed Heart gives us hope, but i feel Keith efforts have been derailed for 6 years now, time to ditch this album and Keith go it alone again, this album is nothing more than a sinking ship at this stage, Keith and Ronnie need to bailout.
There did that disappoint.
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"as you know, the Stones never make an album overnight"
And they've never made one that has taken 15 years either!
FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE SEES IT. 15 years god damn it, the Stones do 15 shows a year, just excuse after excuse.
This is just the usual public relations BS from Ronnie.
If referring to GettaGrip/England Lost, seems it was more than Keith who didn't like them.
Beyond the few Stones fans on here who have proclaimed to have liked one (or both), you can probably count the rest of the people in the world who liked them on one hand.
Those tunes have simply disappeared off the face of the earth as far as staying power, so you gotta think Keith was right in not wanting anything to do with them.
As Shott said above, Crosseyed Heart is great reason for hope (at least it was), as was the collaborative team effort on the blues covers album, but those are quickly growing old and any momentum is probably already lost.
It's beyond any explanation or justification of why the Stones haven't released a new album of originals in nearly 15 years - seems clear they really don't give a crap about it. They hint and bluff during interviews, but in reality it's probably the last thing on their minds. Meanwhile, a new tour is around the corner and tickets are selling great - why would they give a crap about releasing new material when practically nobody cares whether they do or they dont? Their days of being honest to goodness creative artists are long gone - now they're simply actors reenacting the glory days by playing tunes from days of yore. Still fun to watch and a thrill to expereince, but a far cry from what they once were.
For there to be someone of the type present here, I confirm that I was one to like both "Gotta Get a Grip" / "England Lost" and, besides, I was quite bored by CROSSEYED HEART.
So what gives me hope and what not, is quite opposite to many other posters.
In addition, I am one of those, who do not so much want to see them live play a largely unchanged setlist and are much more interested in obtaining a studio album of unknown material (preferably quite new). The realization of such an album and the live playing of some songs therefrom, is really what would make me strongly wish to see them in concert anew.
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Maybe the Stones could do a duet album with contemporary artists..
01 - Start Me Up (with Ed Sheeran)
02 - Paint It Black (with Billie Eilish)
03 - Gimme Shelter (with Post Malone)
04 - (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction (with The Weeknd)
05 - Wild Horses (with Taylor Swift)
06 - Sympathy for the Devil (with Eminem)
07 - Beast of Burden (with Drake)
08 - Angie (with Justin Bieber)
09 - Brown Sugar (with Khalid)
10 - Miss You (with Lil Nas X)
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Mick in 1989:
I was so insistent that we put out a new album, because I thought the Stones were becoming just a nostalgia thing. And they are nostalgia. They're out there selling their catalog and we're playing these old songs because a lot of them people want to hear. But you've got to put out new things. You've got to think for the future. The past is the past. It's gone, thank you very much.
Mick in 2020:
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Maybe the Stones could do a duet album with contemporary artists..
01 - Start Me Up (with Ed Sheeran)
02 - Paint It Black (with Billie Eilish)
03 - Gimme Shelter (with Post Malone)
04 - (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction (with The Weeknd)
05 - Wild Horses (with Taylor Swift)
06 - Sympathy for the Devil (with Eminem)
07 - Beast of Burden (with Drake)
08 - Angie (with Justin Bieber)
09 - Brown Sugar (with Khalid)
10 - Miss You (with Lil Nas X)
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Mick in 1989:
I was so insistent that we put out a new album, because I thought the Stones were becoming just a nostalgia thing. And they are nostalgia. They're out there selling their catalog and we're playing these old songs because a lot of them people want to hear. But you've got to put out new things. You've got to think for the future. The past is the past. It's gone, thank you very much.
Mick in 2020:
The man in clearly in denial.
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Mick in 1989:
I was so insistent that we put out a new album, because I thought the Stones were becoming just a nostalgia thing. And they are nostalgia. They're out there selling their catalog and we're playing these old songs because a lot of them people want to hear. But you've got to put out new things. You've got to think for the future. The past is the past. It's gone, thank you very much.
Mick in 2020:
The man in clearly in denial.
The small detail that obviously escaped your attention is that in 1989, the Stones had a future while in 2020, there's not much future for the band left.
But who knows, maybe they should follow people like you who firmly believe that Mick, like Brian in 1969, is the stumbling block for the band, fire Mick and start all over fresh with a Jagger lookalike (quite a few out there, but soundalikes not that much I'm afraid) into a new phase of their career for decades to come.
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Mick in 1989:
I was so insistent that we put out a new album, because I thought the Stones were becoming just a nostalgia thing. And they are nostalgia. They're out there selling their catalog and we're playing these old songs because a lot of them people want to hear. But you've got to put out new things. You've got to think for the future. The past is the past. It's gone, thank you very much.
Mick in 2020:
The man in clearly in denial.
The small detail that obviously escaped your attention is that in 1989, the Stones had a future while in 2020, there's not much future for the band left.
But who knows, maybe they should follow people like you who firmly believe that Mick, like Brian in 1969, is the stumbling block for the band, fire Mick and start all over fresh with a Jagger lookalike (quite a few out there, but soundalikes not that much I'm afraid) into a new phase of their career for decades to come.
What are you going on about.
I really don't care what you think, I just post and move on, post and move on.
If your view differs to mine, big deal, i don't spend the rest of the day putting words into your mouth. When have i ever said replace Mick. ???
I said after 6 years of trying to complete an album, give it up boys, why keep deceiving the fans with, oh the albums coming, it's all going well, when clearly it's not. I'm just saying i would rather Keith Mick and Ronnie go into a studio and make some music with other musicians , please just give it up, it's embarrassing to keep lying about the progress of an album.
I mean Mick says his still writing new songs, has he forgot he already said that 5 years ago. Does he have dementia.
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Nikkei
If they're still capable of deceiving you, that's on you. This contempt thing is a chuckle. Was already wondering when Mick's ineptitude would come into it, but you never disappoint
I'm consistent, and over time my thoughts usually turn out right.
Crosseyed Heart was a blow to Mick's ego, it was shockingly good and Mick is having trouble coming to terms with the fact that Keith can deliver great music this late in the game, Mick is struggling creatively, that's evident to all but a few on here. 15 years with nothing to shout about, It happens to musicians at Mick's age, writers block is one word for it, but it's not even that, he just can't make great music anymore period. I'm not picking on him, it's just a fact. Hope the new album proves me wrong though.
What i don't understand is why don't Mick and Keith make an album up from previously unfinished tracks if they have hit a wall. There must be enough good material left that didn't make it on various albums to make a fantastic double album of originals. That's what Tattoo You was, unfinished tracks from up to a decade before.
I agree with posters above, Crosseyed Heart gives us hope, but i feel Keith efforts have been derailed for 6 years now, time to ditch this album and Keith go it alone again, this album is nothing more than a sinking ship at this stage, Keith and Ronnie need to bailout.
There did that disappoint.
I wonder how you could not break out in laughter after reading your own lines!
A quick reality check: Personal preferences aside, neither Mick's single nor Crosseyed Heart created much stir outside their respective fan circles and are largely forgotten by now.
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Mick in 1989:
I was so insistent that we put out a new album, because I thought the Stones were becoming just a nostalgia thing. And they are nostalgia. They're out there selling their catalog and we're playing these old songs because a lot of them people want to hear. But you've got to put out new things. You've got to think for the future. The past is the past. It's gone, thank you very much.
Mick in 2020:
The man in clearly in denial.
The small detail that obviously escaped your attention is that in 1989, the Stones had a future while in 2020, there's not much future for the band left.
But who knows, maybe they should follow people like you who firmly believe that Mick, like Brian in 1969, is the stumbling block for the band, fire Mick and start all over fresh with a Jagger lookalike (quite a few out there, but soundalikes not that much I'm afraid) into a new phase of their career for decades to come.
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If they're still capable of deceiving you, that's on you. This contempt thing is a chuckle. Was already wondering when Mick's ineptitude would come into it, but you never disappoint
I'm consistent, and over time my thoughts usually turn out right.
Crosseyed Heart was a blow to Mick's ego, it was shockingly good and Mick is having trouble coming to terms with the fact that Keith can deliver great music this late in the game, Mick is struggling creatively, that's evident to all but a few on here. 15 years with nothing to shout about, It happens to musicians at Mick's age, writers block is one word for it, but it's not even that, he just can't make great music anymore period. I'm not picking on him, it's just a fact. Hope the new album proves me wrong though.
What i don't understand is why don't Mick and Keith make an album up from previously unfinished tracks if they have hit a wall. There must be enough good material left that didn't make it on various albums to make a fantastic double album of originals. That's what Tattoo You was, unfinished tracks from up to a decade before.
I agree with posters above, Crosseyed Heart gives us hope, but i feel Keith efforts have been derailed for 6 years now, time to ditch this album and Keith go it alone again, this album is nothing more than a sinking ship at this stage, Keith and Ronnie need to bailout.
There did that disappoint.
I wonder how you could not break out in laughter after reading your own lines!
A quick reality check: Personal preferences aside, neither Mick's single nor Crosseyed Heart created much stir outside their respective fan circles and are largely forgotten by now.
You're right.
However.
Seeing that the I have a solo album game is over (and we know Keith did CH just because), if Mick bothered to listen to CH, which Keith recorded before and while the Stones were in the midst of their 15 shows a year "busy touring" working hibernation schedule, and is pretty good considering the time, then the one question is:
What the hell is taking so long for a new Stones album?
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Mick in 1989:
I was so insistent that we put out a new album, because I thought the Stones were becoming just a nostalgia thing. And they are nostalgia. They're out there selling their catalog and we're playing these old songs because a lot of them people want to hear. But you've got to put out new things. You've got to think for the future. The past is the past. It's gone, thank you very much.
Mick in 2020:
The man in clearly in denial.
The small detail that obviously escaped your attention is that in 1989, the Stones had a future while in 2020, there's not much future for the band left.
But who knows, maybe they should follow people like you who firmly believe that Mick, like Brian in 1969, is the stumbling block for the band, fire Mick and start all over fresh with a Jagger lookalike (quite a few out there, but soundalikes not that much I'm afraid) into a new phase of their career for decades to come.
What are you going on about.
I really don't care what you think, I just post and move on, post and move on.
If your view differs to mine, big deal, i don't spend the rest of the day putting words into your mouth. When have i ever said replace Mick. ???
I said after 6 years of trying to complete an album, give it up boys, why keep deceiving the fans with, oh the albums coming, it's all going well, when clearly it's not. I'm just saying i would rather Keith Mick and Ronnie go into a studio and make some music with other musicians , please just give it up, it's embarrassing to keep lying about the progress of an album.
I mean Mick says his still writing new songs, has he forgot he already said that 5 years ago. Does he have dementia.
And Keith's handful of "dynamite riffs" he was talking about years ago? Also a case of dementia?
I mean, is it really so difficult to see the possibility that they're doing this not because they have to, but to have something ready for the right occasion, be it their 60th Anniversary or their final farewell as an existing band - instead of accusing them of downright lying to their fans?
And, just for the record: This is a public board, and as such, posts are open for discussion. If you find that strange or even embarrassing, I'd strongly advise you to finish your posts with a disclaimer like this:
"Warning! This is a public proclamation and as such not open for any discussion except from applause by fellow Mick bashers."
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Well exactly, it's insulting our intelligence, you could say the Stones have completely lost the plot.
Retiredog thinks they are saving it for something, 2022 60th anniversary, but that's a bit unlikely, time most definitely isn't on their side.
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Well exactly, it's insulting our intelligence, you could say the Stones have completely lost the plot.
Retiredog thinks they are saving it for something, 2022 60th anniversary, but that's a bit unlikely, time most definitely isn't on their side.
That is so very darn likely that you just don't wanna see it. Time is not a factor when they are deliberately saving it or do you expect the tapes to spoil?
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Well exactly, it's insulting our intelligence, you could say the Stones have completely lost the plot.
Retiredog thinks they are saving it for something, 2022 60th anniversary, but that's a bit unlikely, time most definitely isn't on their side.
That is so very darn likely that you just don't wanna see it. Time is not a factor when they are deliberately saving it or do you expect the tapes to spoil?
Oh i see now, it all makes sence, how stupid of me, when they started making the album in 2014 it was pencilled in for the 60th anniversary in 2022. Brilliant Nikkie, you're a genius.
They knew it would take 8 years to complete so better start writing in 2014, tapes don't spoil.
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Well exactly, it's insulting our intelligence, you could say the Stones have completely lost the plot.
Retiredog thinks they are saving it for something, 2022 60th anniversary, but that's a bit unlikely, time most definitely isn't on their side.
That is so very darn likely that you just don't wanna see it. Time is not a factor when they are deliberately saving it or do you expect the tapes to spoil?
Oh i see now, it all makes sence, how stupid of me, when they started making the album in 2014 it was pencilled in for the 60th anniversary in 2022. Brilliant Nikkie, you're a genius.
They knew it would take 8 years to complete so better start writing in 2014, tapes don't spoil.
It will come out no sooner than a day where it's abundantly clear that further work on it can't continue for uhm physical reasons. Let it be known that I will celebrate any compliment I can get.
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Well exactly, it's insulting our intelligence, you could say the Stones have completely lost the plot.
Retiredog thinks they are saving it for something, 2022 60th anniversary, but that's a bit unlikely, time most definitely isn't on their side.
That is so very darn likely that you just don't wanna see it. Time is not a factor when they are deliberately saving it or do you expect the tapes to spoil?
Oh i see now, it all makes sence, how stupid of me, when they started making the album in 2014 it was pencilled in for the 60th anniversary in 2022. Brilliant Nikkie, you're a genius.
They knew it would take 8 years to complete so better start writing in 2014, tapes don't spoil.
It will come out no sooner than a day where it's abundantly clear that further work on it can't continue for uhm physical reasons. Let it be known that I will celebrate any compliment I can get.
Haha i like your style Nikkei , take any compliment you can get.
If they're fit enough to tour they're fit enough to record.
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Well exactly, it's insulting our intelligence, you could say the Stones have completely lost the plot.
Retiredog thinks they are saving it for something, 2022 60th anniversary, but that's a bit unlikely, time most definitely isn't on their side.
That is so very darn likely that you just don't wanna see it. Time is not a factor when they are deliberately saving it or do you expect the tapes to spoil?
Oh i see now, it all makes sence, how stupid of me, when they started making the album in 2014 it was pencilled in for the 60th anniversary in 2022. Brilliant Nikkie, you're a genius.
They knew it would take 8 years to complete so better start writing in 2014, tapes don't spoil.
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Hairball
Hopefully they don't hold out with it until the 70th anniversary....
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Mick in 1989:
I was so insistent that we put out a new album, because I thought the Stones were becoming just a nostalgia thing. And they are nostalgia. They're out there selling their catalog and we're playing these old songs because a lot of them people want to hear. But you've got to put out new things. You've got to think for the future. The past is the past. It's gone, thank you very much.
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Hopefully they don't hold out with it until the 70th anniversary....
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See Mr. Hairball all along I was like .. 'ehhh no new album gonna happen before or in this tour .. only if we are lucky' .. and you were like .. 'No .. Im pretty darn sure they will put one out before their next tour .. especially if they tour the states again'.. .. ..
*As well I also have been saying that .. I was holding out hope for a Blue and Lonesome part two in the meantime.
Isn't this how it went? Or am I ..corn-fused?
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Hopefully they don't hold out with it until the 70th anniversary....
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See Mr. Hairball all along I was like .. 'ehhh no new album gonna happen before or in this tour .. only if we are lucky' .. and you were like .. 'No .. Im pretty darn sure they will put one out before their next tour .. especially if they tour the states again'.. .. ..
*As well I also have been saying that .. I was holding out hope for a Blue and Lonesome part two in the meantime.
Isn't this how it went? Or am I ..corn-fused?
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Lol you got it all backwards Ian, and you know it!
At best, was hoping for a single to coincide with last tour, but clearly that never happened.
So now that we're seemingly back to square one, maybe you'll warm to the idea of another covers album after all - better than waiting until 2050.
Oh wait, you're sure they'll have a new album this year....lol....