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Hi hopkins ()
At the 28 minute mark I begin talking about Altamont.
Ronnie Schneider speaking in San Francisco
gosh ron i didn't know that joel selvin was such a liar and went out of his way to knowingly deceive. Compare the facts in my book to his story. PS--I confronted him at Book Soup about his BS..
And Gleason "lied" too? and "tricked you into it" He didn't trick me but no one listened to me...plus we were on the road and quite busy..
Firstly, Maybe your publisher should sue Harper Collins about Joel? I am my own publisher so I could get the true story out.. I didn't want to be malicious plus--free speech and he has a family..But it did piss me off..I told him when he interviewed me that I was doing my own book and he should wait since I was a main character in his 'True Story' and I wouldn't be sharing the facts to him. so he made them up...
Also, about Ralph being a trickster and liar, wow all these people were so into screwing everyone else I guess....but you were there two days prior as you say, was he tricking you for both those days, or let's say over that entire time period you were representing the band's interest for your Uncle. NOT remotely true..
At least that's as much as I can understand this far. That's a lot of charges tho.
I always liked Selvin's writing; but I'm not vouching for stuff I'm not sure about.
Here's an interesting review; a sort of more neutral looksee; I didn't 'cherrypick' it or even finish reading it. There are dozens of reviews.
OH a San Francisco review of a San Francisco icon...himmm--and the book did well..I'm happy for him...sorry for the people that believe it to be true.
My problem is the hundreds of books that have been written about the Stones made everyone believe they had heard it all... they hadn't..
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PS: bigger question..even though the Dead ran away... Did Matthews tape the shows? and if so...???
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Mr. Schneider, among the following who would have the most interesting perspective on that day in December of 1969"
Bill Belmont
Chip Monck
Tony Funches
Jon James
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"Jaymes is bad karma to boot. From Los Angeles to when we arrive in New York, he builds this incredible kind of trip like The Man Who Can Get Everything Done with a minimal amount of problems. Well, that really wore thin, because in fact it wasn't true. He'd gotten six members of the New York Narcotics Bureau – full York Narcotics Bureau. Leave the rest of it up to you. You work it all out. I mean, it's such a @#$%& rotten trip, it's incredible," Cutler said.
Jaymes is a man with connections, then, and it was through these connections that he was able to secure Golden Gate Park in San Francisco for the concert. He struck out. Cutler and Rock Scully of the Dead were in a bind now, because they'd been doing nothing while Jaymes took care of everything. There were no permit applications for the park, so now there was no site for the concert. Then, Cutler recalled, the City came up with three possible sites, all of them owned by the Bank of America, two of them "@#$%& useless." The third, Deer Island near Novato in Marin County, 35 miles north of San Francisco, turned out to be just fine, but the bank was asking for too much bread.
Enter (again) Jaymes and Schneider, who have discovered Sears Point International Raceway. Which, it turns out, is owned by Filmways, which also own Concert Associates; the latter had presented the Stones in Los Angeles, and complained about the hard bargain the Stones drove on their contracts. Just when the site is almost set up for the concert, Cutler says, Filmways decides to claim 50 percent of the film revenues. Thus, another deal falls through.
In almost no time, some more wheeling and dealing brought them Altamont. Scully and Cutler arrived at the new site to view it for the first time just twenty hours before Santana's set was to begin. Scully almost croaked right there, but Cutler felt the show must go on regardless of the inherent ugliness of the site, and by 10 AM Saturday, the PA was set up and the stage had been moved over from Sears Point."
Mr. Schneider, is what is said here about Jaymes setting up the gig in GG Park true ?
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"Jaymes is bad karma to boot. From Los Angeles to when we arrive in New York, he builds this incredible kind of trip like The Man Who Can Get Everything Done with a minimal amount of problems. Well, that really wore thin, because in fact it wasn't true. He'd gotten six members of the New York Narcotics Bureau – full York Narcotics Bureau. Leave the rest of it up to you. You work it all out. I mean, it's such a @#$%& rotten trip, it's incredible," Cutler said.
Jaymes is a man with connections, then, and it was through these connections that he was able to secure Golden Gate Park in San Francisco for the concert. He struck out. Cutler and Rock Scully of the Dead were in a bind now, because they'd been doing nothing while Jaymes took care of everything. There were no permit applications for the park, so now there was no site for the concert. Then, Cutler recalled, the City came up with three possible sites, all of them owned by the Bank of America, two of them "@#$%& useless." The third, Deer Island near Novato in Marin County, 35 miles north of San Francisco, turned out to be just fine, but the bank was asking for too much bread.
Enter (again) Jaymes and Schneider, who have discovered Sears Point International Raceway. Which, it turns out, is owned by Filmways, which also own Concert Associates; the latter had presented the Stones in Los Angeles, and complained about the hard bargain the Stones drove on their contracts. Just when the site is almost set up for the concert, Cutler says, Filmways decides to claim 50 percent of the film revenues. Thus, another deal falls through.
In almost no time, some more wheeling and dealing brought them Altamont. Scully and Cutler arrived at the new site to view it for the first time just twenty hours before Santana's set was to begin. Scully almost croaked right there, but Cutler felt the show must go on regardless of the inherent ugliness of the site, and by 10 AM Saturday, the PA was set up and the stage had been moved over from Sears Point."
Mr. Schneider, is what is said here about Jaymes setting up the gig in GG Park true ?
On page 95 of Selvins book he writes that Scully had a guy, Bert Kanegson, who was the Deads guru at getting permits for Golden Gate Park. He had lined up support with the Parks Commissioners so that the permit approval looked like a rubber stamp until he got a call from Cutler that the "Stones" would handle it directly with the office of Mayors Joe Alioto.
Evidently James tried to bypass the process and go directly to the Mayors office which killed the chance for the permit once the Stones name was mentioned for the permit.
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"Jaymes is bad karma to boot. From Los Angeles to when we arrive in New York, he builds this incredible kind of trip like The Man Who Can Get Everything Done with a minimal amount of problems. Well, that really wore thin, because in fact it wasn't true. He'd gotten six members of the New York Narcotics Bureau – full York Narcotics Bureau. Leave the rest of it up to you. You work it all out. I mean, it's such a @#$%& rotten trip, it's incredible," Cutler said.
Jaymes is a man with connections, then, and it was through these connections that he was able to secure Golden Gate Park in San Francisco for the concert. He struck out. Cutler and Rock Scully of the Dead were in a bind now, because they'd been doing nothing while Jaymes took care of everything. There were no permit applications for the park, so now there was no site for the concert. Then, Cutler recalled, the City came up with three possible sites, all of them owned by the Bank of America, two of them "@#$%& useless." The third, Deer Island near Novato in Marin County, 35 miles north of San Francisco, turned out to be just fine, but the bank was asking for too much bread.
Enter (again) Jaymes and Schneider, who have discovered Sears Point International Raceway. Which, it turns out, is owned by Filmways, which also own Concert Associates; the latter had presented the Stones in Los Angeles, and complained about the hard bargain the Stones drove on their contracts. Just when the site is almost set up for the concert, Cutler says, Filmways decides to claim 50 percent of the film revenues. Thus, another deal falls through.
In almost no time, some more wheeling and dealing brought them Altamont. Scully and Cutler arrived at the new site to view it for the first time just twenty hours before Santana's set was to begin. Scully almost croaked right there, but Cutler felt the show must go on regardless of the inherent ugliness of the site, and by 10 AM Saturday, the PA was set up and the stage had been moved over from Sears Point."
Mr. Schneider, is what is said here about Jaymes setting up the gig in GG Park true ?
On page 95 of Selvins book he writes that Scully had a guy, Bert Kanegson, who was the Deads guru at getting permits for Golden Gate Park. He had lined up support with the Parks Commissioners so that the permit approval looked like a rubber stamp until he got a call from Cutler that the "Stones" would handle it directly with the office of Mayors Joe Alioto.
Evidently James tried to bypass the process and go directly to the Mayors office which killed the chance for the permit once the Stones name was mentioned for the permit.
Thank sai, odd how this bit is always laid off on Mick. That it was him pissing on some "rule" about an early announcement...
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Golden Gate Park was always handled by the Dead --Jaymes and I were in NY .. he was asked to help when Golden Gate fell thru..
and re: "Enter (again) Jaymes and Schneider, who have discovered Sears Point International Raceway."--- I was in NY and didn't discover anything..I was called and asked to go to SF to deal with Sears Point after..
be aware of the time frame...Dec 1-Dec 6...the SF locals were supposedly taking care of it all...
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"Jaymes is bad karma to boot. From Los Angeles to when we arrive in New York, he builds this incredible kind of trip like The Man Who Can Get Everything Done with a minimal amount of problems. Well, that really wore thin, because in fact it wasn't true. He'd gotten six members of the New York Narcotics Bureau – full York Narcotics Bureau. Leave the rest of it up to you. You work it all out. I mean, it's such a @#$%& rotten trip, it's incredible," Cutler said.
Jaymes is a man with connections, then, and it was through these connections that he was able to secure Golden Gate Park in San Francisco for the concert. He struck out. Cutler and Rock Scully of the Dead were in a bind now, because they'd been doing nothing while Jaymes took care of everything. There were no permit applications for the park, so now there was no site for the concert. Then, Cutler recalled, the City came up with three possible sites, all of them owned by the Bank of America, two of them "@#$%& useless." The third, Deer Island near Novato in Marin County, 35 miles north of San Francisco, turned out to be just fine, but the bank was asking for too much bread.
Enter (again) Jaymes and Schneider, who have discovered Sears Point International Raceway. Which, it turns out, is owned by Filmways, which also own Concert Associates; the latter had presented the Stones in Los Angeles, and complained about the hard bargain the Stones drove on their contracts. Just when the site is almost set up for the concert, Cutler says, Filmways decides to claim 50 percent of the film revenues. Thus, another deal falls through.
In almost no time, some more wheeling and dealing brought them Altamont. Scully and Cutler arrived at the new site to view it for the first time just twenty hours before Santana's set was to begin. Scully almost croaked right there, but Cutler felt the show must go on regardless of the inherent ugliness of the site, and by 10 AM Saturday, the PA was set up and the stage had been moved over from Sears Point."
Mr. Schneider, is what is said here about Jaymes setting up the gig in GG Park true ?
On page 95 of Selvins book he writes that Scully had a guy, Bert Kanegson, who was the Deads guru at getting permits for Golden Gate Park. He had lined up support with the Parks Commissioners so that the permit approval looked like a rubber stamp until he got a call from Cutler that the "Stones" would handle it directly with the office of Mayors Joe Alioto.
Evidently James tried to bypass the process and go directly to the Mayors office which killed the chance for the permit once the Stones name was mentioned for the permit.
Thankee sai, odd how this bit is always laid off on Mick. That it was him pissing on some "rule" about an early announcement...
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Hi timmyj3 ()
1) It sounded like Mick had a pretty good feel for the business side of life starting in 1969. He did...helped with schooling at the London School of Economics.
2) In your opinion would "Gimme Shelter" have been a much bigger movie with proper distribution at the time? I know it is a classic today. Absolutely..I regret not doing the Warner Bros deal.. Cinema 5-the distributor was a New York centric distributor and not as big internationally...
3) Why is your uncle so disparaged? You seem to paint a picture of a firm but fair to the artists person? He was fair until he wasn't..think jilted lover with revenge..or greedy ex..
4) I love Herman's Hermits (they are vastly under appreciated). Did you like working with them? Loved working with them.. plus Peter Noone was a pleasure ..used to bump into him in the Bahamas..
5) I read an odd Stones book back in like 1976 when I was starting high school. This book actual made John Jaymes a central figure in the story of the 69 Tour. It never made any sense, until your book cleared it up a bit. Considering he nearly got me killed. On the plus side...I've met other con men since..he taught me how to recognize them..
I"m glad you liked the book..please leave a review on Amazon...
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jlowe ()---I detailed what I (and all of us) were going thru at the time..the lawsuits and deception didn't come out until later, but.... I defer to the person who was at the forefront of the events..Andrew Loog Oldham. I figure he should have the biggest complaint..at my uncle's funeral Andrew attacked the British press that attacked my uncle and then spoke of the fact that my uncle got them more money and a bigger royalty based on his talent. When it comes to music he relied on the Stones talent; when it came to music business he reliec on Klein's talent, Andrew deferred to and sold his ownership to Allen and didn't resent it.
RE: British taxes... at one time in history the UK tax system taxed people more than they made..lot's of UK talent moved.. I was there when they were planning to leave... very difficult...
Ronnie..re no 3 above.
You are being unduly fair to your Uncle, if I might say!
In 1965 they had JUST signed their first Management contract with your Uncle who in doing so duped them out of recording and publishing copyrights.
In 1967/68 his company were failing to renumerate the band members and RS Ltd adequately, as confirmed in Bill's Stone Alone book.
Around the same time he failed to make adequate provision for individual and corporate tax liabilities.Which gave them significant problems later. Arguably going into tax exile had a significant effect on their creativity and certainly the songwriting partnership of Mick and Keith.
This isn't the act of a jilted lover as the contract only ended in 1970.
Greed, immorality and inefficiency seem more appropriate descriptions.