Hey Crawdaddy - Paris 65

Sympathy for the Devil - (unless that's Jimmy Miller)

Live With Me (from YaYas)

Let It Rock (Leeds 71)

Street Fighter (Brussels or London 73)

Outa Space (LA 75) (thanks, Ollie!)

When the Whip Comes Down

Summer Romance

Undercover of the Night

Suck on the Jugular

stonesstein

Kick me like you did before
I can't even feel the pain no more
Rocks Off, 1972

How can I stop

For me in the Some Girls and Emotional Rescue albums

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Undercover of the Night

I think that much credit in this track should go to Sly Dunbar.

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2000 Man.

I agree. 2000 Man with the 3/4 groove over the 4/4 rhythm during the verse is like a stroke of genius.

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Not to very too far from the topic, but when was the last time Charlie played an interesting beat on record. Almost everything I can think of from the last 25 years features the same pedestrian bass-snare-bass-bass-snare plod...

(standing back to avoid the rotten tomatoes)

I think his drumming got kinda ruined once they tried to take onboard that jittery new wave drumming style and/or that thing of lifting his stick off the hi-hat when he hits the snare... wonkified his groove, to my ears and it seems to have made him lose his ability to play like he did circa 1967 - 1972. Eg, like his playing on studio versions of Jigsaw Puzzle, Gimme Shelter etc etc.

I'm pretty sure he always did the broken 8th notes on the hi-hat--I thought I saw in an interview somewhere that it's subconscious, he doesn't even notice he's doing it until someone points it out to him.

Get Yer Ya Ya,s Out! Most definitely

JIVING SISTER FANNY

HAND OF FATE

LITTLE QUEENIE

I DON´T KNOW WHY

ANGIE (the drums!!!!)


I´M FREE (kidding!)

Jiving Sister Fanny must be Jimmy Miller?

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peoplewitheyes
Not to very too far from the topic, but when was the last time Charlie played an interesting beat on record. Almost everything I can think of from the last 25 years features the same pedestrian bass-snare-bass-bass-snare plod...

(standing back to avoid the rotten tomatoes)

I think his drumming got kinda ruined once they tried to take onboard that jittery new wave drumming style and/or that thing of lifting his stick off the hi-hat when he hits the snare... wonkified his groove, to my ears and it seems to have made him lose his ability to play like he did circa 1967 - 1972. Eg, like his playing on studio versions of Jigsaw Puzzle, Gimme Shelter etc etc.

I'm pretty sure he always did the broken 8th notes on the hi-hat--I thought I saw in an interview somewhere that it's subconscious, he doesn't even notice he's doing it until someone points it out to him.

He started playing like that in 1978.

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More Hot Rocks
Charly Simon doesn't play drums.

She's not too vain, she knows her limits...

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I loved his drumming on YaYa's. That was pure Charlie, while on other well known studio cuts we learned the grooves weren't his ideas.

Say what?

Mathijs

Ventilator Blues, Miss you, Sympathy ftD, Honky T. Woman . .
A lot of his best loved drum tracks.

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I loved his drumming on YaYa's. That was pure Charlie, while on other well known studio cuts we learned the grooves weren't his ideas.

Say what?

Mathijs

Ventilator Blues, Miss you, Sympathy ftD, Honky T. Woman . .
A lot of his best loved drum tracks.

You know, that's production. It has nothing to do with not having the ideas for the grooves. It's all about improving them.

Some of them he rejected later on, too. There have been many great live versions of HTW, for instance, but Charlie never played it like the album version again

Monkey Man, for example.

DP, - being a drummer, I see it a bit different.
There are very few outstanding studio drum tracks (from the 'groove idea')that come from Charlie.
But I love his live playin from 69-78. The first years best.

His playing has gone through changes through the years; as it should with any artist. He also has had some brilliant mistakes. ( HTW, SMU) I love that "2000Man" take too. I wonder how intentional it was. No matter - the brilliance is sticking with it.
I like his live playing on Ya-Yas very, very much. Like DP says - I don't much like taking the no-hihat-with-snare to the extreme. I think the 81 tour especially was his lowest point.
I like when he was a bit clumsy; like on Buttons "All Sold Out". I also think he plays fills very well. He places them, like...well like a Jazz drummer.

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DP, - being a drummer, I see it a bit different.
There are very few outstanding studio drum tracks (from the 'groove idea')that come from Charlie.
But I love his live playin from 69-78. The first years best.

I respect that, and it was obvious that Jimmy Miller influenced his playing in the early 70s. Maybe Olly Brown as well in the mid-70s?

The «no hi-hat with snare»-approach suited their sound very well in 1978, imo. It left some room for the guitars and bass. In 1981/82 the whole thing became too messy, and Charlie ended up sounding like a robot at times.

He has kept it somewhere in the middle since then.

I love the «clumsy Charlie» as well (good call, Palace!). We might add I'm Free there

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DP, - being a drummer, I see it a bit different.
There are very few outstanding studio drum tracks (from the 'groove idea')that come from Charlie.
But I love his live playin from 69-78. The first years best.

I respect that, and it was obvious that Jimmy Miller influenced his playing in the early 70s. Maybe Olly Brown as well in the mid-70s?

The «no hi-hat with snare»-approach suited their sound very well in 1978, imo. It left some room for the guitars and bass. In 1981/82 the whole thing became too messy, and Charlie ended up sounding like a robot at times.

He has kept it somewhere in the middle since then.

I love the «clumsy Charlie» as well (good call, Palace!). We might add I'm Free there

LOL "yes "I'M Free" of course; didn't want to add that one because that one has some outright mistakes. A funny passage is on the studio boots from the "Sympathy" sessions, when Charlie keeps ruining take after take. And you hear Jagger going "No Charlie it's the bit that goes..."
There have been drastic changes in drumming styles that affected all drummers. It seems that early on it was way more acceptable for a drummer to work with an open Hi-Hat; or at least to bash that thing a lot harder. The Hi Hat them became a glorified click track. The open hi hat is really only used to then close it; to get that 'shoop' effect. I think that there were big differences between Charlie and Ringo. One of them was how they used the Hi Hat in early albums IMO.

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when was the last time Charlie played an interesting beat on record.

The 'faux' start of Sweet Neo Con. Brilliant.

Jumpin' Jack Flash (original). The drums destroy me every time. I have to play it now before every Seattle Seahawk game as part of my pregame ritual.

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I loved his drumming on YaYa's. That was pure Charlie, while on other well known studio cuts we learned the grooves weren't his ideas.

Say what?

Mathijs

Say Honky Tonk Women?

Crackin' Up with Ollie Brown

Also Charlie doesn't drum on You Can't Always Get What You Want...several others too.

His best drumming is on the entire Emotional Rescue album!

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peoplewitheyes
Not to very too far from the topic, but when was the last time Charlie played an interesting beat on record. Almost everything I can think of from the last 25 years features the same pedestrian bass-snare-bass-bass-snare plod...

(standing back to avoid the rotten tomatoes)

I think his drumming got kinda ruined once they tried to take onboard that jittery new wave drumming style and/or that thing of lifting his stick off the hi-hat when he hits the snare... wonkified his groove, to my ears and it seems to have made him lose his ability to play like he did circa 1967 - 1972. Eg, like his playing on studio versions of Jigsaw Puzzle, Gimme Shelter etc etc.

I'm pretty sure he always did the broken 8th notes on the hi-hat--I thought I saw in an interview somewhere that it's subconscious, he doesn't even notice he's doing it until someone points it out to him.

'I Go Wild' does not follow the standard formula.

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Also Charlie doesn't drum on You Can't Always Get What You Want...several others too.

Also no Charlie on IORR, Sleep Tonite, some others I can't recall right now. Did Jimmy Miller play drums on TD?

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Also Charlie doesn't drum on You Can't Always Get What You Want...several others too.

Also no Charlie on IORR, Sleep Tonite, some others I can't recall right now. Did Jimmy Miller play drums on TD?

Jimmy played on the last half of TD (when all the fills and rolls are going on).

He also played on Jiving Sister Fanny, I believe.

Difficult to answer. One of his best is on Ya Ya's, imo.

Honky Tonk Woman with cowbell and all maybe...

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