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Tumlin73
Anybody think any more general tickets for Hyde park will come back on sale?
Most certainly. You don't sell out on day 1.
Look at what happened with the Stones shows in Hyde Park, tickets for all categories dropped along the way.
There's all kinds of time.
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bye bye johnny
Music industry maven Bob Lefsetz weighs in:
The Springsteen Ticket Fracas
[lefsetz.com]
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rbk
Ticketmaster DOES NOT determine what a band charges much as you'd like to think your rock and roll heroes have your best interests in mind. As much as people like to beat up on Ticketmaster they are only providing a service priced in relation to what the (price determined BY THE ARTIST) ticket costs.
Apparently artists, management, venues and promoters sometimes have, and continue to, work in tandem to feed their own tickets to Ticketmaster resale where prices can be inflated and all involved increase their take accordingly. Why would Ticketmaster care? They make two sets of fees for each ticket that is sold in such a manner.
For decades it's been rumored that Springsteen is one of the most ruthless acts in the business structuring deals that allegedly take like 95% of the house based on a sell out, guaranteed. This leaves promoters, venues, et al, to make their nut with the last five percent based on a sell out. No sell out? Promoter loses money.
Still, at the end of day, if people will pay crazy money to see Bruce Springsteen then he is worth every penny he is charging.
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rbk
Ticketmaster DOES NOT determine what a band charges much as you'd like to think your rock and roll heroes have your best interests in mind. As much as people like to beat up on Ticketmaster they are only providing a service priced in relation to what the (price determined BY THE ARTIST) ticket costs.
Apparently artists, management, venues and promoters sometimes have, and continue to, work in tandem to feed their own tickets to Ticketmaster resale where prices can be inflated and all involved increase their take accordingly. Why would Ticketmaster care? They make two sets of fees for each ticket that is sold in such a manner.
For decades it's been rumored that Springsteen is one of the most ruthless acts in the business structuring deals that allegedly take like 95% of the house based on a sell out, guaranteed. This leaves promoters, venues, et al, to make their nut with the last five percent based on a sell out. No sell out? Promoter loses money.
Still, at the end of day, if people will pay crazy money to see Bruce Springsteen then he is worth every penny he is charging.
Totally understand supply and demand. How is a band like Rage Against the Machine or Pearl Jam able to charge $99 for every ticket in the house? How does that work?
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rbk
Ticketmaster DOES NOT determine what a band charges much as you'd like to think your rock and roll heroes have your best interests in mind. As much as people like to beat up on Ticketmaster they are only providing a service priced in relation to what the (price determined BY THE ARTIST) ticket costs.
Apparently artists, management, venues and promoters sometimes have, and continue to, work in tandem to feed their own tickets to Ticketmaster resale where prices can be inflated and all involved increase their take accordingly. Why would Ticketmaster care? They make two sets of fees for each ticket that is sold in such a manner.
For decades it's been rumored that Springsteen is one of the most ruthless acts in the business structuring deals that allegedly take like 95% of the house based on a sell out, guaranteed. This leaves promoters, venues, et al, to make their nut with the last five percent based on a sell out. No sell out? Promoter loses money.
Still, at the end of day, if people will pay crazy money to see Bruce Springsteen then he is worth every penny he is charging.
Totally understand supply and demand. How is a band like Rage Against the Machine or Pearl Jam able to charge $99 for every ticket in the house? How does that work?
They use Humble Pie's 1974 lighting rig. Also many of their tickets can end up being scalped which is precisely what "dynamic pricing" seeks to curtail.
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rbk
Ticketmaster DOES NOT determine what a band charges much as you'd like to think your rock and roll heroes have your best interests in mind. As much as people like to beat up on Ticketmaster they are only providing a service priced in relation to what the (price determined BY THE ARTIST) ticket costs.
Apparently artists, management, venues and promoters sometimes have, and continue to, work in tandem to feed their own tickets to Ticketmaster resale where prices can be inflated and all involved increase their take accordingly. Why would Ticketmaster care? They make two sets of fees for each ticket that is sold in such a manner.
For decades it's been rumored that Springsteen is one of the most ruthless acts in the business structuring deals that allegedly take like 95% of the house based on a sell out, guaranteed. This leaves promoters, venues, et al, to make their nut with the last five percent based on a sell out. No sell out? Promoter loses money.
Still, at the end of day, if people will pay crazy money to see Bruce Springsteen then he is worth every penny he is charging.
Totally understand supply and demand. How is a band like Rage Against the Machine or Pearl Jam able to charge $99 for every ticket in the house? How does that work?
They use Humble Pie's 1974 lighting rig. Also many of their tickets can end up being scalped which is precisely what "dynamic pricing" seeks to curtail.
Wrong about Pearl Jam. Check out their anti-reseller safeguards this tour. Almost impossible to resell. Believe it or not, they do cool things for their fans. Even with their “1974 Humble Pie lighting rig,” they could surely charge way more.
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Bruce Springsteen does not care about you | Opinion
By Bobby Olivier
July 21, 2022
[www.nj.com]
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TheGreek
So I got the code this morning and on the notice it says to "shop for tickets visit" in the link they provide , and then for Tips it says to login to your "Ticketmaster account" ? So which one do I use ?
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bye bye johnny
Music industry maven Bob Lefsetz weighs in:
The Springsteen Ticket Fracas
[lefsetz.com]
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TheGreek
So I got the code this morning and on the notice it says to "shop for tickets visit" in the link they provide , and then for Tips it says to login to your "Ticketmaster account" ? So which one do I use ?
Use the link, then sign in when you get there? The on sales are weird. Portland is going on sale today, Seattle isn't until next week.
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Topi
The Verified Fan sales are done through Ticketmaster so you'll have to sign in to your TM account (same email address that you used to register for Verified Fan)
You just use the link they sent you, and when searching/buying tickets it asks for the Verified Fan code, you enter it. The code is used to "unlock" the tickets, much like a presale code.
Yup , roughly a hundred each . Ouch , but this had to happen and Thank God these were the regularly priced ones before they gouge . I was not going above 500 face .Quote
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Good score, I imagine that's fees included?
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crholmstrom
...The last time I saw Bruce was the River tour a few years ago. Unreal good show. He played almost 4 hours with a lot of Darkness material in the non River portion. I have a hard time convincing myself that he's going to top that show....
By the time I saw "The River Tour" in Sep 2016 they'd burned out on playing The River and morphed it into The Pre-River Tour [www.setlist.fm]
Of the 32 songs -- yes, another almost 4 hr show -- 20 were from before The River, and only 2 songs (Hungry Heart and Out In The Street) were from The River itself.
We got SIX songs from Greetings From Asbury Park NJ, and another 4 from The Wild The Innocent and the E Street Shuffle.
Which was fine with me. (Well, I had been hoping to hear Drive All Night again.) But most of those 10 from his first two albums I'd never heard live. Whereas I'd seen two shows during original River tour in 1980 and '81.
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RollingFreak
The fact that you'd go anywhere near $500 face is the problem right there by the way.
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RollingFreak
The fact that you'd go anywhere near $500 face is the problem right there by the way.
You're writing this on a Stones forum!
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RollingFreak
The fact that you'd go anywhere near $500 face is the problem right there by the way.
You're writing this on a Stones forum!
I know and you are dead 1000% right , but this was and is a personal journey that I must complete from the last time in 2016 which I attended the Bruce and the E Street Band show (same venue ) and now this will come full circle . This is a cathartic and healing process for me . The best way to describe this without divulging personal details would be to say I fell down and now I will get up and resume the journey .Quote
RollingFreak
The fact that you'd go anywhere near $500 face is the problem right there by the way.
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TheGreekI know and you are dead 1000% right , but this was and is a personal journey that I must complete from the last time in 2016 which I attended the Bruce and the E Street Band show (same venue ) and now this will come full circle . This is a cathartic and healing process for me . The best way to describe this without divulging personal details would be to say I fell down and now I will get up and resume the journey .Quote
RollingFreak
The fact that you'd go anywhere near $500 face is the problem right there by the way.