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GS1978
I never thought they got enough respect for the great music they created. They had a whole lot more talent and range than they get credit for.
I agree.
Part of the reason is the 80's (decade) teens and early 20 somethings couldn't get past their beloved hair-head, talentless, tight-leather-pants-with-a sock-buldge 80's rock to appreciate how great the music of the 90's was/is. STP was given a lot artistic freedom and they explored it well.
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Toru A
Too bad.
I met Scott and Prince Rupert at Four Seasons Toronto back in 1994.
They were spaced out but he did a great job as opening act for the Stones at that night.
Very sad news.
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Boognish
Oops! That could have been potentially embarrassing!
Thanks for fixing the link, Naturalust
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The Sicilian
I saw them open for the Stones on this tour in Toronto at the CNE stadium or grandstand whatever it's called.
They sat at the front of the stage and did an unplugged set and nobody seemed to be paying attention.
But I wanted to see them. They certainly would have been better off playing all electric.
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Naturalust
One think I always liked about STP is that they seemed to be dedicated to the songs and the music. This was no parade of egos or theater of posing, they really seemed to get that it was all about the songs and let the image go where it may. I doubt they cared whether they were considered grunge-lite, they never tried to out grunge the grungers, they just tried to produce the best music they could. I have respect for that kind of attitude and think it served them well since they have quite a few great songs.
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umakmehrd
Very very sad - But I think his ex-wife put it all into perspective with her response in Rolling Stone Magazine...
[www.rollingstone.com]
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umakmehrd
Very very sad - But I think his ex-wife put it all into perspective with her response in Rolling Stone Magazine...
[www.rollingstone.com]
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Hairball
Well said Naturalust.
I know nothing about either of those two, but something about reading that reeked of something unholy.
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Hairball
Well said Naturalust.
I know nothing about either of those two, but something about reading that reeked of something unholy.
Thanks Hairball, but I think you were able to say in 5 words what took me over 200. I'm going to try again using your style:
Two words....No Class.
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35love
I can't resist:
says 'you may never speak of me again, and if you must, you say I'm a nice guy'
something like that?
That's a big nut every month. No wonder he was pounding the pavement/ bar gigs up in Minnesota winter.
I'm so sorry about this. It's a brutal, incredibly sad disease.
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MILKYWAY
Hmmmm. A lot of comments about Scott's past drug and addiction problems but nothing that states unequivocally his death was due to drugs or is even drug related.
Very sad nonetheless. My condolences to his friends and family.
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Father Ted
Take away the "rock star" mythology from Scott Weiland and what you're left with was a very unwell man with numerous mental health and substance abuse problems. The music industry is culpable in letting people like SW continue to work in, to understate it, an unhealthy environment. SW had a contract with someone, he was an employee of some company - what did they do to ensure his safety at work, knowing of his serious mental health/drug problems?
I think his ex-wife, understandably angry because her children now have no father, was quite right to let rip publicly. Let's not celebrate the myth of another needlessly dead junkie rock star.
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MILKYWAY
Hmmmm. A lot of comments about Scott's past drug and addiction problems but nothing that states unequivocally his death was due to drugs or is even drug related.
Very sad nonetheless. My condolences to his friends and family.
Not that they always have their facts before reporting but TMZ had this>
Scott Weiland's tour bus was a pharmacy on wheels ... police found a stash of drugs on board that ran the gamut from hardcore narcotics to prescriptions to ED meds. TMZ obtained a copy of the search warrant Bloomington, MN cops got to search Weiland's bus after his death -- and it shows they found at least 2 bags of a white substance. They've already said that substance tested positive for cocaine. Also on the bus -- a generic version of Xanax, 2 different brands of sleeping pills, Buprenorphine ... a synthetic opiate painkiller, and Viagra. There was also Ziprasidone ... which is used to treat bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. Scott was diagnosed as bipolar in 2001. According to the docs, all of those drugs were found in a bedroom on the bus. We know Scott's body was found in a bedroom ... although the document does not mention his name.
Cops also found one bag of a green, leafy substance
Read more: [www.tmz.com]
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Father Ted
Take away the "rock star" mythology from Scott Weiland and what you're left with was a very unwell man with numerous mental health and substance abuse problems. The music industry is culpable in letting people like SW continue to work in, to understate it, an unhealthy environment. SW had a contract with someone, he was an employee of some company - what did they do to ensure his safety at work, knowing of his serious mental health/drug problems?
I think his ex-wife, understandably angry because her children now have no father, was quite right to let rip publicly. Let's not celebrate the myth of another needlessly dead junkie rock star.
What rock star mythology? Scott was a certifiable rock star no myths involved Ted. We could say the same thing about Keith and Ronnie. Until you've walked a day in the man's shoes I don't think it really fair to judge the man so harshly.
Addiction is considered a disease by most professionals, unfortunately one that takes the sick person to decide if and when they want to get better. Yes ultimately Scott was probably mostly responsible for all his screw ups, blown relationships and everything TMZ and all the other media whores dig up on him so people can salivate and watch a man suffering from within the bubbles of their own lives. I'm sure plenty of people around Scott tried to help him get well, we don't know the details of how his management tried to help him, they obviously didn't want the guy to die. We don't really even know how the guy died yet.
Obviously his ex-wife was angry, pretty clear from that scathing article, she's got the right to feel any way she wants, but publishing that crap a couple days after his death didn't do anyone any good,imo. She wasn't speaking out for support of addiction or mental health services, she wasn't really helping her kids out or mine. At this point I think the man deserves some compassion and celebration for what he did give the world, a piece of his heart and soul and some great music obviously at a great cost.
Yes it's not right glorifying the junkie rock star lifestyle but Scott never did that. He spoke pretty openly about his problems, obviously wanted to heal himself and had lots of guilt and pain...it was written on the guys face in the last few years. He did some good work with Music Cares, donated quite a bit of money to them and did some interviews promoting sobriety and talking about the dangers of drugs. His mythology is not some rock star glorifying the use of drugs and poor lifestyle choice, imo....it is of an addicted and genius musician who never fully healed from his illness.
RIP Scott, I for one will celebrate what you were able to give us.
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Father Ted
Take away the "rock star" mythology from Scott Weiland and what you're left with was a very unwell man with numerous mental health and substance abuse problems. The music industry is culpable in letting people like SW continue to work in, to understate it, an unhealthy environment. SW had a contract with someone, he was an employee of some company - what did they do to ensure his safety at work, knowing of his serious mental health/drug problems?
I think his ex-wife, understandably angry because her children now have no father, was quite right to let rip publicly. Let's not celebrate the myth of another needlessly dead junkie rock star.
What rock star mythology? Scott was a certifiable rock star no myths involved Ted. We could say the same thing about Keith and Ronnie. Until you've walked a day in the man's shoes I don't think it really fair to judge the man so harshly.
Addiction is considered a disease by most professionals, unfortunately one that takes the sick person to decide if and when they want to get better. Yes ultimately Scott was probably mostly responsible for all his screw ups, blown relationships and everything TMZ and all the other media whores dig up on him so people can salivate and watch a man suffering from within the bubbles of their own lives. I'm sure plenty of people around Scott tried to help him get well, we don't know the details of how his management tried to help him, they obviously didn't want the guy to die. We don't really even know how the guy died yet.
Obviously his ex-wife was angry, pretty clear from that scathing article, she's got the right to feel any way she wants, but publishing that crap a couple days after his death didn't do anyone any good,imo. She wasn't speaking out for support of addiction or mental health services, she wasn't really helping her kids out or mine. At this point I think the man deserves some compassion and celebration for what he did give the world, a piece of his heart and soul and some great music obviously at a great cost.
Yes it's not right glorifying the junkie rock star lifestyle but Scott never did that. He spoke pretty openly about his problems, obviously wanted to heal himself and had lots of guilt and pain...it was written on the guys face in the last few years. He did some good work with Music Cares, donated quite a bit of money to them and did some interviews promoting sobriety and talking about the dangers of drugs. His mythology is not some rock star glorifying the use of drugs and poor lifestyle choice, imo....it is of an addicted and genius musician who never fully healed from his illness.
RIP Scott, I for one will celebrate what you were able to give us.
Nicely put...