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I would love to hear it on the America Latina Olé Tour, but I know that is not gonna happen.

Well, didn't they use it in one of their promo videos for this tour? Hold onto the tiny speck of hope, they acknowledged it!

So I see that people have mixed feelings about the seong . I like it

I like it. Actually, gave me some hope that Steel Wheels would be the Stones storming again. A great hook, a great riff, and a great chorus. I also agree that the 12 inch max single is better, with the guitars more up front. And that would be my biggest grip is the production where it is a low dense mix and the guitars don't have a punch. And a terrible drum sound that plagued Charlie for the 80s. A shame, because this could be a classic. I like how they did it live, and wish they would resurrect it.

There are worse songs they could play live. For instance, anything from DIRTY WORK.

Would be great to see and hear them perform Too Rude, Dirty Work, Had It With You, Harlem Shuffle & Winning Ugly.

Had It With You or Dirty Work would be a suitable substitute for songs like Rocks Off or All Down The Line. They dared to play nonsense like Emotional Rescue, so they could as well play Winning Ugly which is a better song by far.

They should do a surprise performance of the entire DW-album, that would be really something. I guess the usually very enthusiastic South American audiences would love it.

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I like it. Actually, gave me some hope that Steel Wheels would be the Stones storming again. A great hook, a great riff, and a great chorus. I also agree that the 12 inch max single is better, with the guitars more up front. And that would be my biggest grip is the production where it is a low dense mix and the guitars don't have a punch. And a terrible drum sound that plagued Charlie for the 80s. A shame, because this could be a classic. I like how they did it live, and wish they would resurrect it.

I am genuinely interested in why you say it's a great riff. I just hear standard chord strumming. I might be missing something here. I mean, I like the song, but for me it lacks a strong Keith-riff.
I'll check out the 12 inch version, maybe it's better.

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They should do a surprise performance of the entire DW-album, that would be really something. I guess the usually very enthusiastic South American audiences would love it.

I never thought I'd say this, but you might even have a point here. It would be kind of interesting if they would do that, for a number of reasons:
1) It could never be worse than the original album
2) It will be a challenge to actually create something good out of almost nothing (with the exception of One Hit, which they already did live, and sounded awful)
3) At least they would take a huge risk, and I'd appreciate that.

It probably wouldn't result in anything good though.

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I like it. Actually, gave me some hope that Steel Wheels would be the Stones storming again. A great hook, a great riff, and a great chorus. I also agree that the 12 inch max single is better, with the guitars more up front. And that would be my biggest grip is the production where it is a low dense mix and the guitars don't have a punch. And a terrible drum sound that plagued Charlie for the 80s. A shame, because this could be a classic. I like how they did it live, and wish they would resurrect it.

I am genuinely interested in why you say it's a great riff. I just hear standard chord strumming. I might be missing something here. I mean, I like the song, but for me it lacks a strong Keith-riff.
I'll check out the 12 inch version, maybe it's better.

The riff that starts the song.

It's even a more complex riff than Start Me Up, as it contains more chords. And we don't doubt that SMU has a riff, do we?

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I like it. Actually, gave me some hope that Steel Wheels would be the Stones storming again. A great hook, a great riff, and a great chorus. I also agree that the 12 inch max single is better, with the guitars more up front. And that would be my biggest grip is the production where it is a low dense mix and the guitars don't have a punch. And a terrible drum sound that plagued Charlie for the 80s. A shame, because this could be a classic. I like how they did it live, and wish they would resurrect it.

I am genuinely interested in why you say it's a great riff. I just hear standard chord strumming. I might be missing something here. I mean, I like the song, but for me it lacks a strong Keith-riff.
I'll check out the 12 inch version, maybe it's better.

The riff that starts the song.

It's even a more complex riff than Start Me Up, as it contains more chords. And we don't doubt that SMU has a riff, do we?

Yes , SMU has a riff.
But I'm not sure a riff is necessarily more complex for having more chords.
I just hear 3 (or 4?) rapid chord changes (in the intro, not during the verses). But by that way of thinking, the Ramones would have great riffs... (I beg to differ).

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I like it. Actually, gave me some hope that Steel Wheels would be the Stones storming again. A great hook, a great riff, and a great chorus. I also agree that the 12 inch max single is better, with the guitars more up front. And that would be my biggest grip is the production where it is a low dense mix and the guitars don't have a punch. And a terrible drum sound that plagued Charlie for the 80s. A shame, because this could be a classic. I like how they did it live, and wish they would resurrect it.

I am genuinely interested in why you say it's a great riff. I just hear standard chord strumming. I might be missing something here. I mean, I like the song, but for me it lacks a strong Keith-riff.
I'll check out the 12 inch version, maybe it's better.

The riff that starts the song.

It's even a more complex riff than Start Me Up, as it contains more chords. And we don't doubt that SMU has a riff, do we?

Yes , SMU has a riff.
But I'm not sure a riff is necessarily more complex for having more chords.
I just hear 3 (or 4?) rapid chord changes (in the intro, not during the verses). But by that way of thinking, the Ramones would have great riffs... (I beg to differ).

My point was that there are two chord changes in the SMU-riff and three in that of ME. Riffs don't have to be complicated

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My point was that there are two chord changes in the SMU-riff and three in that of ME. Riffs don't have to be complicated

I agree. The simpler the better.
But to me, a riff should be more than just chord changes. Actually, I think playing just chords sort of goes against my idea of a riff.

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My point was that there are two chord changes in the SMU-riff and three in that of ME. Riffs don't have to be complicated

I agree. The simpler the better.
But to me, a riff should be more than just chord changes. Actually, I think playing just chords sort of goes against my idea of a riff.

But in both cases those aren't merely chords, since Keith is playing his open G-riffing. The sound is unique, and the best acid-test of what is a riff or not is if you can hum it. I have no problems humming both SMU or ME

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They should do a surprise performance of the entire DW-album, that would be really something. I guess the usually very enthusiastic South American audiences would love it.

I never thought I'd say this, but you might even have a point here. It would be kind of interesting if they would do that, for a number of reasons:
1) It could never be worse than the original album
2) It will be a challenge to actually create something good out of almost nothing (with the exception of One Hit, which they already did live, and sounded awful)
3) At least they would take a huge risk, and I'd appreciate that.

It probably wouldn't result in anything good though.

Are you smoking something awful? They would improve the suckage of DIRTY WORK! It would be worse! It would be the biggest train wreck in the history of rock music. And with their stage set up it would be THE BRIGHTEST shining of a turd in the history of rock music.

The Stones taking a chance? That would be playing EOMS, GHS, ER or TY all the way through. Something interesting with great songs.

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Would be great to see and hear them perform Too Rude, Dirty Work, Had It With You, Harlem Shuffle & Winning Ugly.

Had It With You or Dirty Work would be a suitable substitute for songs like Rocks Off or All Down The Line. They dared to play nonsense like Emotional Rescue, so they could as well play Winning Ugly which is a better song by far.

They should do a surprise performance of the entire DW-album, that would be really something. I guess the usually very enthusiastic South American audiences would love it.

Although them playing Had It With You might be interesting, there's no way they could pull off Too Rude or Dirty Work. They already did Harlem Shuffle. That's the only song anyone would bother to be interested in. No one knows anything off DIRTY WORK. They might as well play something new. Winning Ugly would be a brilliant embarrassment, seeing that it is on the album, it would only be bigger live.

Enthusiastic South American crowds want good Stones, not bad Stones. DIRTY WORK is the pinnacle of bad Stones. Anyone wanting to hear it would be escorted out of the stadium.

I liked it ...and I still like....with the best 12"of all the Stones singles...

Love the tune. The Stones were back!!

Loved it when I first heard it, but it, like me, has aged rather poorly.

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Loved it when I first heard it, but it, like me, has aged rather poorly.

Yes Mixed Emotions is a successful song in every way both in terms of the actual song, how it is sung by Mick and the rest of the boys activities. Super song! 5/5

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I like the song, but I think it´s hampered by the stiff drums. Not one of Charlie´s best efforts.

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They should do a surprise performance of the entire DW-album, that would be really something. I guess the usually very enthusiastic South American audiences would love it.

I never thought I'd say this, but you might even have a point here. It would be kind of interesting if they would do that, for a number of reasons:
1) It could never be worse than the original album
2) It will be a challenge to actually create something good out of almost nothing (with the exception of One Hit, which they already did live, and sounded awful)
3) At least they would take a huge risk, and I'd appreciate that.

It probably wouldn't result in anything good though.

Are you smoking something awful? They would improve the suckage of DIRTY WORK! It would be worse! It would be the biggest train wreck in the history of rock music. And with their stage set up it would be THE BRIGHTEST shining of a turd in the history of rock music.

The Stones taking a chance? That would be playing EOMS, GHS, ER or TY all the way through. Something interesting with great songs.

O, I agree that it most likely would be an enormous train-wreck, but sometimes train-wrecks can be marvelous to look at (like "She's So Cold" at the Wimbledon concert, somewhere early 80's).
If I would be in a band, I think I would have more fun trying to make One Hit or Winning Ugly or even - haha - Back To Zero to work on stage (I mean: imagine the enormous challenge) than to try to better the already perfect versions of for instance EOMS. Or take "Gimme Shelter" for example: I never heard a live version (as good as some of them might be, and I love Lisa Fisher's performance) that really was better than the original.
I just think that in general it might be an interesting project: to take a bunch of mediocre to really bad songs and somehow make them sound good. And I don't think that's entirely impossible.

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I just think that in general it might be an interesting project: to take a bunch of mediocre to really bad songs and somehow make them sound good. And I don't think that's entirely impossible.

For a project like that DW would be the wrong album, there is nothing mediocre/really bad on it. So the Stones would have to pick Steel Wheels, which is packed with mediocre/really bad songs.

I always thought a tour after the release of DW would have been much more interesting and rewarding than the Steel-Wheels-tour. Steel Wheels is such a weak album.

Imagine a tour without the usual five Steel-Wheels-tracks (all poor except Mixed Emotions and Sad Sad Sad) but with 6-7 tracks from DW and Undercover. Would have been great, imo.

Mixed Emotions is quite a good rocking song as far as studio recording is concerned. But IMO it never really worked on stage. It's not featured on "Flashpoint" and never made it to the setlists after 1990, unlike e.g. "Rock and A Hard Place".
I guess Mick never liked to do it live due to its high-pitch singing. It's just one of those songs, that fit in a specific tour theme (Steel Wheels) but never again.

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Mixed Emotions is quite a good rocking song as far as studio recording is concerned. But IMO it never really worked on stage. It's not featured on "Flashpoint" and never made it to the setlists after 1990, unlike e.g. "Rock and A Hard Place".
I guess Mick never liked to do it live due to its high-pitch singing. It's just one of those songs, that fit in a specific tour theme (Steel Wheels) but never again.

One reason it doesn't work on stage, although DandelionPowerman won't agree with me I'm afraid, is that it doesn't have a clearcut, clean, well-defined riff. The rhythm is alright, the melody is alright, and it sounds okay in the studio version, but live it will almost inevitably sound weak, bland, "watered", messy.

I think they pulled it off nicely in concert. I like this version better than the studio version:

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Mixed Emotions is quite a good rocking song as far as studio recording is concerned. But IMO it never really worked on stage. It's not featured on "Flashpoint" and never made it to the setlists after 1990, unlike e.g. "Rock and A Hard Place".
I guess Mick never liked to do it live due to its high-pitch singing. It's just one of those songs, that fit in a specific tour theme (Steel Wheels) but never again.

One reason it doesn't work on stage, although DandelionPowerman won't agree with me I'm afraid, is that it doesn't have a clearcut, clean, well-defined riff. The rhythm is alright, the melody is alright, and it sounds okay in the studio version, but live it will almost inevitably sound weak, bland, "watered", messy.

Ah, that makes sense. It's just a not-much-going-on song. There's no lurch to it like there is in Tumbling Dice or Monkey Man or Midnight Rambler. As bad as Sparks Will Fly is (it's mainly the lyrics that are so poor) that song has something going on in it.

Mixed Emotions just sounds like how bad bar bands play Brown Sugar - with no identity at all other than some shouting.

It's got a nice chorus with those open G minor chords, though.

Of course it has a distinctive and immediate riff. The problem is, imo, that after the intro we get tired of hearing that riff a thousand times. The «surprise effect» is there, but wanes quickly...

The G,C,D opening and continuing riffage that is the song's riff is... yeah, you and I know it's THE STONES but compared to a lot of their other tunes and the HOT ROCKS crowd, it doesn't do anything or go anywhere until... the Am, Bm, C D chorus.

Oh and they threw a bridge in it that's essentially the same progression.

When I first heard the lyrics of the opening verse the thing that stood out to me was only the "Button your lip, baby, button your coat"... and the rest was just sort of whatever, a bit rote. "Let's bury the hatchet, wipe out the past" sings the guy who just a couple years before sang "I was a rising star you hitched your wagon next to mine" and "Right at the moment that you saw my hand first slip just like a dirty rat you jumped the sinking ship" as well as "The wicked lay stones in my path and friends who are snakes in the grass" with "The future looms, so damn the past", which as we all know the past was embraced with a financial fury when the Stones got it back together and continued on their merry little bank filling ways.

No wonder they are all smiles in that ME video

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No wonder they are all smiles in that ME video

That was such a load. "Look! We're getting along!".

And that crap with Keith showing Mick the chorus...

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