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HMS
I remember some people here saying these CD´s are brickwalled and worse than the download-version.
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ironbelly
The original download for Brussels 73 came with DR9-11 while the new CD is only DR5-8. And it is definitevely louder. (numbers from old thread [www.iorr.org])
Official download from stones archive (original flac files)
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Analyzed: The Rolling Stones / The Brussels Affair
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR10 -0.17 dB -11.70 dB 3:56 01-Brown Sugar
DR10 0.00 dB -11.76 dB 5:33 02-Gimme Shelter
DR10 0.00 dB -11.12 dB 3:14 03-Happy
DR10 0.00 dB -11.45 dB 5:04 04-Tumbling Dice
DR10 0.00 dB -10.34 dB 4:16 05-Star Star
DR10 0.00 dB -11.20 dB 4:38 06-Dancing With Mr. D
DR9 0.00 dB -10.42 dB 5:03 07-Doo Doo Doo Doo Dooo (Heartbreaker)
DR11 0.00 dB -13.17 dB 5:15 08-Angie
DR10 0.00 dB -11.19 dB 11:00 09-You Can't Always Get What You Want
DR10 0.00 dB -11.12 dB 12:53 10-Midnight Rambler
DR9 0.00 dB -10.18 dB 3:12 11-Honky Tonk Women
DR9 0.00 dB -10.22 dB 4:21 12-All Down The Line
DR9 0.00 dB -10.24 dB 2:25 13-Rip This Joint
DR9 0.00 dB -9.69 dB 3:27 14-Jumping Jack Flash
DR9 0.00 dB -9.64 dB 5:15 15-Street Fighting Man
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Number of tracks: 15
Official DR value: DR10
DR values for Brussels Affair CD's included in the Japanese Marquee set:
foobar2000 1.3.7 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
log date: 2015-06-13 10:21:15
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Analyzed: ? / ?
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR7 0.00 dB -8.13 dB 3:56 ?-01 Brown Sugar
DR7 0.00 dB -8.67 dB 5:33 ?-02 Gimme Shelter
DR7 0.00 dB -7.90 dB 3:14 ?-03 Happy
DR7 0.00 dB -8.42 dB 5:04 ?-04 Tumbling Dice
DR7 -0.03 dB -7.53 dB 4:16 ?-05 Star Star
DR7 0.00 dB -8.05 dB 4:38 ?-06 Dancing With Mr. D
DR7 0.00 dB -7.98 dB 5:03 ?-07 Doo Doo Doo Doo Dooo (Heartbreaker)
DR8 0.00 dB -9.95 dB 5:00 ?-08 Angie
DR7 0.00 dB -8.24 dB 11:19 ?-09 You Can't Always Get What You Want
DR6 0.00 dB -7.72 dB 12:53 ?-10 Midnight Rambler
DR6 0.00 dB -7.19 dB 3:12 ?-11 Honky Tonk Women
DR6 0.00 dB -7.04 dB 4:21 ?-12 All Down The Line
DR6 0.00 dB -7.26 dB 2:25 ?-13 Rip This Joint
DR5 0.00 dB -6.19 dB 3:27 ?-14 Jumping Jack Flash
DR5 0.00 dB -6.05 dB 5:15 ?-15 Street Fighting Man
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Number of tracks: 15
Official DR value: DR7
The good thing - they cleaned digital clicks for Angie. When Brussels was released as a digital download a number of users (Honestman, UrbanSteel) reported digital clicks in Angie. I can hear those clicks at 0.36, 0.43, 1.23, 1.26, 1.32 and 1.39 for digital download version. They sound like surface vinyl pops or electrical discharge - cable contact. That issue was discussed at the old thread at this forum.
I gave a close listen to Angie from Japanese Ward CD version an apparently some of those pops disappear. At least I can't hear pops at 0.36, 1.26 and 1.39.
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Maindefender
Is the Brussels Affair Japan CD higher quality than digital download? TIA
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maremma
Not sure that there is not a video of Brussels.
Especially the 1st show (for "the French", as the Stones were banned from France at this date) for wich we have some sequencies under the title "RTL train".
IMHO, both shows were recorded, audion + video.
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1969Fan
Again, IMHO for us old farts, Brussels is the peak of the live Richards / Taylor recorded performances, rivaled only by Ya Ya's. Why can't the powers that be simply release the Bob Clearmountain Brussels mix on a CD?
Let's start a movement. Brussels on CD! Brussels on CD! Bussels on CD! Brussels on CD! Brussels on CD!
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1969Fan
Again, IMHO for us old farts, Brussels is the peak of the live Richards / Taylor recorded performances, rivaled only by Ya Ya's. Why can't the powers that be simply release the Bob Clearmountain Brussels mix on a CD?
Let's start a movement. Brussels on CD! Brussels on CD! Bussels on CD! Brussels on CD! Brussels on CD!
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maremma
Mathijs; i do'nt agree.
Look at the very short sequence ==> [marcmandel.blogspot.fr]
There use to have something longer, about 10-15 minutes.
But it seems no longer available on youtube and eslsewhere.
I'll look into my archives.
But for sure, all was filmed BUT never surfaced (maybe lost somewhere!!)
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1969Fan
Again, IMHO for us old farts, Brussels is the peak of the live Richards / Taylor recorded performances, rivaled only by Ya Ya's. Why can't the powers that be simply release the Bob Clearmountain Brussels mix on a CD?
Let's start a movement. Brussels on CD! Brussels on CD! Bussels on CD! Brussels on CD! Brussels on CD!
I'd prefer a better mix/hard copy release of the Fonda show first actually. You can always make your own CD from the flac downloads of Brussels. What exactly are you expecting from a separate CD release?
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1969Fan
Again, IMHO for us old farts, Brussels is the peak of the live Richards / Taylor recorded performances, rivaled only by Ya Ya's. Why can't the powers that be simply release the Bob Clearmountain Brussels mix on a CD?
Let's start a movement. Brussels on CD! Brussels on CD! Bussels on CD! Brussels on CD! Brussels on CD!
I'd prefer a better mix/hard copy release of the Fonda show first actually. You can always make your own CD from the flac downloads of Brussels. What exactly are you expecting from a separate CD release?
People like to have an official release on a physical format.
Technically, Brussels 1973 could be easily used for "future GHS deluxe".Quote
His Majesty
Betcha that Brussels Affair 1973 becomes available as a stand alone CD IN UK/EU/USA etc in future. Not so optimistic about live in England 1965 though.