WHY or WHY NOT?

Touchy subject ?

No. I hate cigarettes but he is Keef. This is one of the rare times the rules don't apply to him. But everyone else (except maybe Ronnie) this rule applies.

Go Dawgs!

Keith is used to doing what he wants and ignoring rules like that- no smoking in designated areas.

F that, says Keith..I'm Keith Richards, I'll smoke wherever.

well that is a selfish and inconsiderate attitude.

ok there. I said it..

so yes those rules should apply to him, but in practice, they don't.



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They may apply, but he'll still get away with it

I'm pretty sure that when those signs are posted, they're intended to apply to everyone. Enforcement is another thing all together. Over the course of my life I have become friends with many business owners who allow "the rules" to be broken after closing time. Some also choose to allow certain people to break some of those rules during business hours.

Although my memory is hazy, I'm pretty sure that when the Stones played Memphis on the Bigger Bang tour, an announcement was made prior to the show that, 'although the Rolling Stones were being allowed to and would be smoking on stage, smoking would not be permitted in any other parts of the arena'. In other words: just because they were being allowed to do it on stage, it didn't mean that you could do it at you seat.

The first time I saw the Stones (Atlanta 1994) I tried to fire up a smoke at my seat and was promptly told by an usher that I'd have to put it out or go to the smoking section. Keith and Ronnie were smoking on stage that night too.

From my point of view, no big deal.

Peace,
Mr DJA

Often when someone says that the rule should not apply to him, they'll say that it's because he's Keith Richards ... as if stating that fact is a reason and is self-evident.

A valid exception, imo, is on stage, where it can legitimately be considered a stage prop and part of the performance

Although smoking is strictly banned in Tokyo Dome, Stones came up with a good plan.
See holes in their ashtray.
As holes are connected to ventilator, it's okey-dokey.

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schillid

A valid exception, imo, is on stage, where it can legitimately be considered a stage prop and part of the performance

A big LOL!

Keef still thinks he's a rebel trespassing the law makign his own rules.
He's our little Truman... Truman show!

So every time he goes somewhere "no smoking" signs should be posted just for him. He'd ignore them, light one and keeps on living in his "I dont abide by your petty rules I make my own" dreamworld of his!

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schillid

A valid exception, imo, is on stage, where it can legitimately be considered a stage prop and part of the performance

A big LOL!

No, seriously.

As in... it's part of the show. Like an actor, Keith is a performer. An otherwise law-abiding person (here insert a big LOL) portraying a figure onstage, a rock star named Keith Richards. Or possibly a human smoke machine.

But no one should be permitted to smoke in an office building. But I'm not gonna tell him. Shit, he's Keith Richards.



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Old people don't care about rules.

Bjornulf

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schillid
WHY or WHY NOT?

Of course not

He's probably been fined for smoking in some venues but just pays it because he can. I also think it is both a bit inconsiderate of him to subject his interviewers to second hand smoke and cool of him to disregard authority in such an open way.

The signs obviously do apply to everyone but should Keith regard them? I'd say in concert venues no way, got to let the guy work comfortably and entertain us first and foremost but it would be nice to see him be a bit more considerate to individuals.

I'm probably not the only one who worries about Keith health due to his smoking. The guy has survived so many intoxicants, it would be sad to see him finally leveled by something like cigarettes.

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He's probably been fined for smoking in some venues but just pays it because he can. I also think it is both a bit inconsiderate of him to subject his interviewers to second hand smoke and cool of him to disregard authority in such an open way.

The signs obviously do apply to everyone but should Keith regard them? I'd say in concert venues no way, got to let the guy work comfortably and entertain us first and foremost but it would be nice to see him be a bit more considerate to individuals.

I'm probably not the only one who worries about Keith health due to his smoking. The guy has survived so many intoxicants, it would be sad to see him finally leveled by something like cigarettes.

I agree...I'm torn between thinking he's a badass and thinking he's a prick. I'm not an anti-smoking Nazi but truly dislike being in a confined space with smokers.

My Dad is Keith's age and smoked for over 50 years, and now he's in the very early stages of COPD. He's still in very good health considering but...I know it's not gonna end well for him, even though he's quit (hopefully...he's lied before about it).

But I've also known people who smoked into their 80s and 90s and didn't die because of it. Some people are genetic freaks, and I think we all know Keith's constitution is way better than average.

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Old people don't care about rules.

...or petty morals...

They DO APPLY to him -
he decides to IGNORE them.

So, in fact, what we really are discussing here, is:

(a) should Keith OBEY the rules?
(b) if he doesn't, should het get PUNISHED (e.g. fined) for that?

They do apply to Keith, just not in the way that one might think . . .

"I don't have a problem with cigarettes, I have a problem with bylaws . . . and even then, not really" --Reef Kichards

Keith happily pays any fine. Then a division of KR Incorporated repays Keith the employee for the expense of paying the fine, and claims the repayment as a tax-deductible expense.


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you're Mick Jagger

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They do apply to Keith, just not in the way that one might think . . .

"I don't have a problem with cigarettes, I have a problem with bylaws . . . and even then, not really" --Reef Kichards

Keith happily pays any fine. Then a division of KR Incorporated repays Keith the employee for the expense of paying the fine, and claims the repayment as a tax-deductible expense.

Your scenario got me thinking of a scenario that made me laugh...

Could you imagine being the cop/official who writes out a citation to Keith Richards for a cigarette smoking violation? What happens when they have to tell their family/co-workers about it?

Peace,
Mr DJA

Keith smokes whereever he wants to. He is Keith Richards, he can smoke everywhere, just like Bogey did in the good old days. And no of course he should not get punished, he is punished enough with his band-singer.

i have been told that the Stones pay fines for smoking on stage

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HMS
Keith smokes whereever he wants to. He is Keith Richards, he can smoke everywhere, just like Bogey did in the good old days. And no of course he should not get punished, he is punished enough with his band-singer.

He has been punished enough with his nicotine addiction.
Having said that, I hope he lives another 70 years in good health.

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bv
Old people don't care about rules.

Is that true?

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schillid

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bv
Old people don't care about rules.

Is that true?

No, it is nonsense.

My mum is the same she smokes in her hotel room and smoked on a plane once. She has been threatened with fines, but always got away with it. She doesn't listen. A couple of months younger than Keef.

The smoking ban in England is a complete load of nonsense there is one bar in England that permits people to smoke in it and that is the bar in the Houses of Parliament frequented by the motherfxxkers that make these rules.

Nate

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Nate
The smoking ban in England is a complete load of nonsense there is one bar in England that permits people to smoke in it and that is the bar in the Houses of Parliament frequented by the motherfxxkers that make these rules.

Nate

That's hilarious. The Las Vegas casinos are truly the last vestige of indoor smoking here in America. A few back alley bars who skirt the rules but in general it's a thing of the past. There are actually towns in California where it is illegal to smoke outdoors in public places.

To be more serious, I think it is a big shame that Keith and Ronnie are smoking on stage. Many people look at the Stones members as examples to follow, they do what the Stones do. Smoking kills. When people who are supposed to be a good example do something which is fatal, it is not good.

You may say that it looks great when a rock star is smoking, but it does not look good when you get cancer and you have kols and you know that many other got cancer and similar diseases because of it.

No smoking is more and more common. I live in a country (Norway) where less than 15% smoke. It used to be more than 50% smoking. Still many many smoke in countries I visit like Australia and France. I am worried. I have a message to Keith and Ronnie: Cancel that Marlboro deal. Save lives. Thank you guys!

Bjornulf

I think most of the Stones fans are grown ups who know about the risks of smoking. If you are in your 40s and a non-smoker you hardly start smoking after seeing Ronnie and Keith smoking on stage. If the few teenage fans of the Stones start smoking than rather because of their friends smoking, not because of Keith and Ronnie. I think its totally irrelevant if Keith and Ronnie are smoking on stage. Let them do what they do, its part of the show.

Whatever.. It's just not cool anymore, there is nothing to prove, and he just does not give a crap! he does not mind sharing his second hand smoke with interviewers or other people in the studio. Does he share with his grandchildren ?????