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herecomesrichard
I hope you do enjoy it. Maybe I wasn't in the right frame of mind because I had to hunt around for the Apple TV remote and Mrs H wanted me to get finished hogging the TV because she wanted to watch Celebrity Big Brother.
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Beast
I confess to having that dopey grin all the way through it, too... And I'm sorry to say that I don't agree either about the missing history. To include that would have just made it run-of-the-mill, whereas what we have instead is a beautiful present-day portrait of the man who is the product of all that history and has it oozing from his pores. Amen to that.
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Beast
I confess to having that dopey grin all the way through it, too... And I'm sorry to say that I don't agree either about the missing history. To include that would have just made it run-of-the-mill, whereas what we have instead is a beautiful present-day portrait of the man who is the product of all that history and has it oozing from his pores. Amen to that.
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Kingbeebuzz
If I heard correctly Keith says "Ian Stewart started the Stones" in this documentary.
My understanding is that Brian advertised and Ian was the first to answer.
But Brian started the Stones, everyone else joined Brian's band.
Is Keith's comment deliberate, or unthinking, or is his memory going? or am I wrong ?
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Child Of Clay
And maybe, just maybe, some kid out there will see how it's Brian who owns the stage for that I Just want To Make Love To You-clip.
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DandelionPowderman
It's in the eye of the beholder. I see Mick owning the stage
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Child Of Clay
Ok, I accept that it's promotion for Crosseyed Heart, and as such it's not a naked eyed documentary but Keith's thing, his forum to say whatever he wants.
But while it's probably best he doesn't mention Brian at all, I'd have appreciated he didn't give Ian the credit of starting the Stones either.
F**ing disgrace Brian's been written out of history. One thing he did right, a thing why we're all here, and it's like it never happened.
At least he got to introduce Howlin' Wolf, despite Jagger trying to butt in.
And maybe, just maybe, some kid out there will see how it's Brian who owns the stage for that I Just want To Make Love To You-clip.
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keithglimmer
I noticed that he repeats the Muddy Waters painting the ceiling in 1964 story. I've always found that a little hard to believe but apparently Keith insists it happened. Oh, well...I remember all kinds of stuff that never actually happened too.
But he has revised a key part of the story: Muddy wasn't painting because of some kind of debt to Chess or the vagaries of the record business. He was just being an industrious gentleman.
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Rockman
Wonder what brand of paint Muddy was usin' ??? and it woulda been pre acrylic days......
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keithglimmer
I noticed that he repeats the Muddy Waters painting the ceiling in 1964 story. I've always found that a little hard to believe but apparently Keith insists it happened. Oh, well...I remember all kinds of stuff that never actually happened too.
But he has revised a key part of the story: Muddy wasn't painting because of some kind of debt to Chess or the vagaries of the record business. He was just being an industrious gentleman.
Ha I noticed that too. Of course it doesn't really change the story, just what Keith thought the motives might have been. I think Keith probably just saw a black man painting the ceiling and mistook him for Muddy, recently changed the motive out of respect for Muddy. And of course Marshall Chess emphatically denies it ever happened. Here is his answer to the question in an interview with Sabotage Times: [www.iorr.org]
JW: One of the most famous stories told about Chess is Keith Richards’ tale about turning up at the studio in 1964 to record The Rolling Stones’ second album only to find Muddy Waters painting the ceiling. It’s not true, is it?
MC: No truth in it at all. But Keith maintains to this day that it actually happened. I’ve laughed in his face many times as he’s insisted he saw Muddy up a ladder with a paint brush in hand. I guess people want to believe that it’s true. It says something about how unfashionable the blues had become at that time....
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Turner68
having listened to this version's of Keith's story I'm inclined to think that perhaps someone at Chess
did tell Keith "that's muddy waters up there" to pull his leg, and Keith never realized they were having fun with him.