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duke richardson
adds to the endearing nature of the man. Interesting that none of the other Stones have commented on this incident..?
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Child Of Clay
And maybe, just maybe, some kid out there will see how it's Brian who owns the stage for that I Just want To Make Love To You-clip.Quote
DandelionPowderman
It's in the eye of the beholder. I see Mick owning the stage
But it was Brian who boinked Dean Martin's daughter after the show
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onestep
Really enjoyed this one, shows Keith's part in The Rolling Stones, his love of the blues and the history of music puts some of the soul in The Rolling Stones.
I see that some have commented on who really started The Stones, and Bill is upset that there is a nice historical marker at the Dartford station. In my opinion, Mick and Keith were there from the beginning, and if they hadn't been there, Brian's band would have lasted the winter....I mean does anyone really care if Brian who loved the blues as much as Mick and Keith gets the credit?
I don't.......he went round the bend, and beat up his women...Mick steers, and Keith is the rudder.
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john lomax
Well, Bill Wyman's story is that, at their first cost to Chess, Muddy came out and helped them carry their guitars into the studio. Is this story true?
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Turner68
having listened to this version's of Keith's story I'm inclined to think that perhaps someone at Chess did tell Keith "that's muddy waters up there" to pull his leg, and Keith never realized they were having fun with him. seems like that's the best explanation for the whole thing. keith makes it clear that he'd never met muddy before and didn't recognize him, but rather someone told him who "muddy" was.
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Naturalust
No I haven't seen the film yet Turner, saving the experience for when I need a Keith fix actually, being a bit overwhelmed by his presence in my life this week.
Delighted to hear that Keith gives it up for Muddy in such a loving and respectful way, Muddy's influence on rock and roll can never be understated, imo.
If Keith did say he didn't recognize Muddy but someone told him, that seems like another slight change in his story, but certainly one that is more believable. Recalling earlier quotes from Keith and the one from Marshall below that say that Keith actually saw Muddy.
"MC: I’ve laughed in his face many times as he’s insisted he saw Muddy up a ladder with a paint brush in hand."
It's really not all that important, clearly a case where the story and legend has grown bigger than the brief reality of that day in 1964.
RIP Muddy. Love Live Keith.
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Naturalust
Yeah, perhaps, you and with sssoul are right and someone was pulling Keith's leg.
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Naturalust
Yeah, perhaps, you and with sssoul are right and someone was pulling Keith's leg.
Just for the record, I don't think anyone was pulling his leg.
I think - well, I've already posted what I think. :E
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Naturalust
No I haven't seen the film yet Turner, saving the experience for when I need a Keith fix actually, being a bit overwhelmed by his presence in my life this week.
Delighted to hear that Keith gives it up for Muddy in such a loving and respectful way, Muddy's influence on rock and roll can never be understated, imo.
If Keith did say he didn't recognize Muddy but someone told him, that seems like another slight change in his story, but certainly one that is more believable. Recalling earlier quotes from Keith and the one from Marshall below that say that Keith actually saw Muddy.
"MC: I’ve laughed in his face many times as he’s insisted he saw Muddy up a ladder with a paint brush in hand."
It's really not all that important, clearly a case where the story and legend has grown bigger than the brief reality of that day in 1964.
RIP Muddy. Love Live Keith.
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keithglimmer
I noticed that he repeats the Muddy Waters painting the ceiling in 1964 story. I've always found that a little hard to believe but apparently Keith insists it happened. Oh, well...I remember all kinds of stuff that never actually happened too.
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Naturalust
No I haven't seen the film yet Turner, saving the experience for when I need a Keith fix actually, being a bit overwhelmed by his presence in my life this week.
Delighted to hear that Keith gives it up for Muddy in such a loving and respectful way, Muddy's influence on rock and roll can never be understated, imo.
If Keith did say he didn't recognize Muddy but someone told him, that seems like another slight change in his story, but certainly one that is more believable. Recalling earlier quotes from Keith and the one from Marshall below that say that Keith actually saw Muddy.
"MC: I’ve laughed in his face many times as he’s insisted he saw Muddy up a ladder with a paint brush in hand."
It's really not all that important, clearly a case where the story and legend has grown bigger than the brief reality of that day in 1964.
RIP Muddy. Love Live Keith.
I hadn't heard this Muddy painting story till I watched UNDER THE INFLUENCE, so have no real awareness of its veracity and the various versions that have floated around. One thing about the film's version that put me off, though, is that Keith adds an element of self-aggrandizement to his story. At the very end of the anecdote, almost under his breath, he quotes Muddy as having said something like "thanks for what you're doing with my music." I don't know whether Muddy would have said this in 1964, or whether he had begun to profit in any way from the exposure bands like The Stones would ultimately give old blues artists. (I have heard just as many stories over the years of those grizzled veterans being resentful of all the money the whippersnappers were making off their sound.)
In any event, I thought it was a sour note in the film. It took the focus off Muddy and put it on Keith as the champion if Chicago blues.
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duke richardson
>> that mick thinks steve jordans drumming sucks <<
did Jagger say that in some interview? first I've heard of it..
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lem motlow
yes the stones turned alot of people onto the blues.and so did eric clapton and jimmy page and every other band and guitar player coming out of england in the 60's.
that doesnt give you a free pass to make up a bullshit story about a guy being so broke he had to paint a ceiling when he never was,
i read an article about this in blues musician magazine a few years ago and believe me they weren't happy about it and not nearly as understanding as rock fans are.
it would be like one of the guys in a young band saying "yeah,the stones really influenced us.i remember when they were broken up in the 80's i saw keith richards cleaning the toilet at a club i was at.he had spent all the stones money and looked at me like,this could be you in a few years,i never forgot that man"
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onestep
Really enjoyed this one, shows Keith's part in The Rolling Stones, his love of the blues and the history of music puts some of the soul in The Rolling Stones.
I see that some have commented on who really started The Stones, and Bill is upset that there is a nice historical marker at the Dartford station. In my opinion, Mick and Keith were there from the beginning, and if they hadn't been there, Brian's band would have lasted the winter....I mean does anyone really care if Brian who loved the blues as much as Mick and Keith gets the credit?
I don't.......he went round the bend, and beat up his women...Mick steers, and Keith is the rudder.