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On an 18 song setlist (now down from 19), I don't think you are going to get much variety when you have to play these obligatory warhorses: jack flash, satisfaction,honky tonk,Gimme Shelter, tumbling dice, can't always get, paint it black, Miss You, sympathy, start me up. Then you throw in 3 new ones, there is not much left to work with. I have always been of the opinion that Mick Jagger underestimates his audiences...

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Stoneage
Sir Michael doesn't "create" the ticket prices; he (and his business partners) just follow the market. Ticket prices in general, and for bigger acts in particular, are sky high these days.
It didn't always use to be like that. And acts charging less than the market allows are seldom to be seen.

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The problem is the audience, short atention span .. they easily go down to they phones if they are not super super exited .How many people actually look a the stage during Keith set? 30%?? The rest is in the bathroom, on whatssap, taking selfies or chatting about what they are going to eat later.

And Mick hates this like poison. Maybe that is why keith does one song now, come to think of it.

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Stoneage
Sir Michael doesn't "create" the ticket prices; he (and his business partners) just follow the market. Ticket prices in general, and for bigger acts in particular, are sky high these days.
It didn't always use to be like that. And acts charging less than the market allows are seldom to be seen.

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AJDuffer
Posted by: dedospegajosos ()
Date: May 8, 2024 20:33

Would anyone miss Tumbling Dice if the drop it?


No, and most of my casual Stones friends don't know this song even though they play it every show rather than songs more people know like IORR, Shattered, CYHMK, etc.

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AJDuffer
Posted by: dedospegajosos ()
Date: May 8, 2024 20:33

Would anyone miss Tumbling Dice if the drop it?


No, and most of my casual Stones friends don't know this song even though they play it every show rather than songs more people know like IORR, Shattered, CYHMK, etc.

In regard to casual Stones friends and or fans...

Tumbling Dice is on every hits compilation going back to 1975 (same with IORR except for the vinyl US release of REWIND). Shattered is only on FORTY LICKS and the 80 track edition of that 2012 release.

CYHMK isn't on any compilation.

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AJDuffer
Posted by: dedospegajosos ()
Date: May 8, 2024 20:33

Would anyone miss Tumbling Dice if the drop it?


No, and most of my casual Stones friends don't know this song even though they play it every show rather than songs more people know like IORR, Shattered, CYHMK, etc.

In regard to casual Stones friends and or fans...

Tumbling Dice is on every hits compilation going back to 1975 (same with IORR except for the vinyl US release of REWIND). Shattered is only on FORTY LICKS and the 80 track edition of that 2012 release.

CYHMK isn't on any compilation.

You Can find Shattered also on Sucking In The Seventies and the promo only CD A Radio Sampler.
Can't You Hear Me knocking you can find on the promo only compilation CD "Say Ah"

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out of time will work fine in a stones town

ex. east rutherford, philadelphia, boston, chicago

that's probably it

when will you all face it that the after the 7th song of the set each night....there will not be any changes??

Do I want changes sure, but it's not going to happen. Maybe rambler will appear.. Maybe brown sugar will reappear.

Be grateful for whatever they play....they are 80 freaking years old!

So many songs I'd love in hear in place of miss you, symp, you can't, but its fine I still get to see them and for that I'm grateful

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In una scaletta di 18 canzoni (ora in calo rispetto a 19), non penso che otterrai molta varietà quando dovrai suonare questi cavalli di battaglia obbligatori: jack flash, soddisfazione, honky tonk, Gimme Shelter, dadi cadenti, non sempre si può, dipingilo di nero, signorina te, simpatia, iniziami. Poi ne inserisci 3 nuovi, non c'è più molto su cui lavorare. Sono sempre stato dell'opinione che Mick Jagger sottovaluti il suo pubblico...[/citazione]Che sottovaluti o meno il pubblico, un fatto innegabile è che ha creato questo pubblico. Se modifichi il prezzo medio del biglietto del 1989 ($28) per l'inflazione, i biglietti sarebbero circa $70 in dollari di oggi. Immagina se gli spettacoli fossero così accessibili. Sembra un sogno irrealizzabile. Non sono sicuro che otteniamo ciò che paghiamo. Ma Mick certamente ottiene ciò per cui * addebita *.

unfortunately it doesn't work like that, in '89 they did a mega tour, this way it's easier to keep costs down. Today they are doing a mini tour also because I'm not sure that the insurance companies would be willing to do it on a mega tour, this increases the costs.

however I would really like them to play heart of stone.

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The problem is the audience, short atention span .. they easily go down to they phones if they are not super super exited .How many people actually look a the stage during Keith set? 30%?? The rest is in the bathroom, on whatssap, taking selfies or chatting about what they are going to eat later.

And Mick hates this like poison. Maybe that is why keith does one song now, come to think of it.

To expand on what you said in your post, at the last Stones show I attended in Buffalo 2015, I was sitting on the floor near what I would describe as a group of casual concert goers who appeared to be at the show because they knew the Stones were this legendary rock group who one person stated he had to see to cross off his bucket list. I was checking in with them periodically throughout the concert. To me, they appeared clueless as to the Stones songlist and aside from talking and being on their phones, only really came to life during the biggest of hits like Start Me Up, Jack Flash, and Satisfaction.

So I started thinking to myself that I would bet that if the Stones cut the warhorses down to like five-six essential hits: Jack Flash, it's only rock and roll, start me up, honky tonk, Miss You, and Satisfaction, plus 4-5 new ones, and then padded the rest with deep cuts or rarities not normally played,I would wager that casuals and hardcores would still walk out of the concert extremely satisfied. I think we give too much credit to today's casual concert goer.

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Sighunt
So I started thinking to myself that I would bet that if the Stones cut the warhorses down to like five-six essential hits: Jack Flash, it's only rock and roll, start me up, honky tonk, Miss You, and Satisfaction, plus 4-5 new ones, and then padded the rest with deep cuts or rarities not normally played,I would wager that casuals and hardcores would still walk out of the concert extremely satisfied. I think we give too much credit to today's casual concert goer.

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I'm beginning to think that Keith is the weak link in this band, and the reason they don't get more "adventurous" onstage is because they can only do those songs that are well-rehearsed and/or come with some degree of confidence that Keith can play them. That doesn't mean we won't get blown intros on SMU or the painful sight of Keith trying to make something coherent our of his SFTD lead break, but they can, at least, keep the unpleasant surprises to a minimum. Just my humble opinion from the cheap seats.

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I'm beginning to think that Keith is the weak link in this band, and the reason they don't get more "adventurous" onstage is because they can only do those songs that are well-rehearsed and/or come with some degree of confidence that Keith can play them.

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I'm bummed the band doesn't have the confidence in their own material enough to drop more warhorses and either play more of the new album or explore something outside the expected.

I have tix for Chicago, bought when I was hopefully they would add a chunk of the new album. Last night's Glendale show might have been the more boring setlist in several tours. Glad I have hotel and plane reservations I can cancel if this is how the tour goes.

They're the Rolling @#$%& Stones and should be confident enough to not have to rely on all the warhorses. Kinda sad.

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AJDuffer
Posted by: dedospegajosos ()
Date: May 8, 2024 20:33

Would anyone miss Tumbling Dice if the drop it?


No, and most of my casual Stones friends don't know this song even though they play it every show rather than songs more people know like IORR, Shattered, CYHMK, etc.