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It Won't Take Long
Only played once as i remember it, Hollywood Bowl.
Also in San Diego 2005.
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CamRS
I can’t help but roll my eyes when I read someone calling the Stones “lazy”.
Often enough it’s usually a fan who doesn’t agree with something that the band is doing. “They’re not switching up their setlists enough because they’re lazy.” or “They’re not releasing new music because they’re lazy.”
Please tell me how a 75 year old man who’s running a business, writing and recording songs, rehearsing and planning for a tour, taking a moment to have open heart surgery and then goes on to rehearse some more and tour is lazy?
Every decision the band makes is for a business/artistic reason. If I had to guess why they tend to stick to the warhorses that they do, I would guess that it’s probably because the band’s focus is on quality of performance. They’d rather play the same 15 songs as perfectly as they can than to mix up each performance with 15 different songs and play them at an average level.
At their age, they know the moment the quality of their performance is down, people will screaming for them hang it up...we have fans on here who already think they should hang it up when Keith makes a couple mistakes.
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SomeGuy
Well, if that's different enough for some, cool. If you look at setlists a bit further in (recent) history, you will find that virtually every 'exceptional' song has already been played in the 'exceptional slot' in the years immediately before.
This is ok, really. But it's fact, and some of us just wouldn't feel the need to see a show three or four times over, just for a song or two that were considered a variation, a couple of years before. For those that do, enjoy!
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GasLightStreet
If they were to truly go by 'what did we play last time we were here to not play this time' then NO ONE would get any warhorses.
Which is impossible, of course, so when Mick talks about that obviously he's talking about the 1-4 non-warhorse songs they have in the set for whatever tour and it's just his marketing about nothing, because as we've seen on this tour, some nights they play Sad Sad Sad, or Out Of Control or Bitch or You Got Me Rocking or She's So Cold plus the 'fan vote', of which some of those may be, I can't remember. Which is still basically a So what, because they were going to possibly include them throughout the tour anyway.
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DEmerson
I was going to make a new thread on this, but will add it here.
I recently put together a grid showing the songs of all 38 shows I've been to since 1981. Some interesting items of note:
Total different songs seen: 130
Songs seen at EVERY show: Only 3: T Dice, B Sugar, and HT Women
Songs seen only 1 time: Over a dozen, including just getting Sweet Virginia for the 1st time in Chicago 2.
So when you look at it, the Stones HAVE switched things up considerably over the years - may be minor changes, but they STILL seem to be trying one or two unique songs each show. Something they didn't really do back in the glory days of '69, '72 (at least from what I've been able to see).
Are there 'warhorses' we'd all love to see them drop in favor of something different? Sure. Rarities we'd love to hear? Of course. For me, Start Me Up is a song I can totally do without - it really doesn't go anywhere different on any night (and say what you will about say Miss You, but at least that CAN get interesting at the end!) - BUT, I recognize that 99% of the audience LOVES hearing Start Me Up, and the crowd gets into it each and every time...so who am I to say they should give it a rest?
I'm likely not saying much beyond what's already been written on this now 83 page long thread - Other than perhaps, for those that have been to multiple shows, it's a fun waste of time, to do your own tally of all the songs you've seen over the years.
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DEmerson
I was going to make a new thread on this, but will add it here.
I recently put together a grid showing the songs of all 38 shows I've been to since 1981. Some interesting items of note:
Total different songs seen: 130
Songs seen at EVERY show: Only 3: T Dice, B Sugar, and HT Women
Songs seen only 1 time: Over a dozen, including just getting Sweet Virginia for the 1st time in Chicago 2.
So when you look at it, the Stones HAVE switched things up considerably over the years - may be minor changes, but they STILL seem to be trying one or two unique songs each show. Something they didn't really do back in the glory days of '69, '72 (at least from what I've been able to see).
Are there 'warhorses' we'd all love to see them drop in favor of something different? Sure. Rarities we'd love to hear? Of course. For me, Start Me Up is a song I can totally do without - it really doesn't go anywhere different on any night (and say what you will about say Miss You, but at least that CAN get interesting at the end!) - BUT, I recognize that 99% of the audience LOVES hearing Start Me Up, and the crowd gets into it each and every time...so who am I to say they should give it a rest?
I'm likely not saying much beyond what's already been written on this now 83 page long thread - Other than perhaps, for those that have been to multiple shows, it's a fun waste of time, to do your own tally of all the songs you've seen over the years.
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Winning Ugly VXII
6 out of the first 8 songs DOES NOT equal "the first half of the show".
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It is interesting to see many comments on the set lists. Still, does anyone really think the Stones, at their age and time in their career, really care about fans who count 19 or 20 songs, or who don't want to hear this or that song?
They are still the most successful rock act on the planet. They fill up stadiums with their current concept. For me this is easy: Never change a winning team.