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Jagger's voice sounds overdubbed, you hear it twice, I think Keith himself changed things on carol - his solo , Taylor's guitar solo om MR sounds like an overdub,., and his sound on LWM, a fuzz box (?) could be an edit as well.
And I wonder if the record has been remastered earlier on, as far as I remember Wyman played several bum notes, they seem to be gone. But that could be my memory serving me badly.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-07-02 12:54 by LuxuryStones.
Waiting For Columbus is one of my all time faves since it was released, way back in 1978. And it will ever be.
When the remastered and expanded Version was released in 2002, I read in the liner notes for the first time that on the album are many overdubs and edits.
But I don´t mind, it remains one of my faves of all times, not only live recordings, but recordings in general.
And for me it´s the same with GYYYO.
Never get tired of Waiting for Columbus (and Little Feat music in general). Best live album ever made, imo.
no, but i know exactly what you mean ;-)
But with (so many) overdubs, it's no longer a live album, but a hybrid between a live and a studio album.
Indeed, and no matter how good many of the performances are in and of themselves, it begins to lose some of its attraction for me the more I realise how much of it is essentially just Keith soloing over his own backing track.
yes, it was great once they got ron wood and didn't have to overdub their live albums as much.
The very same man who plays no less than three guitars on Crackin' Up?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-07-02 19:32 by DandelionPowderman.
I don't have access to the source bootlegs, but have often heard it said that Keith replaced some of the lead guitar on Carol (at least) post hoc - perhaps not the solo itself, but rather the fills. Mathijs can probably confirm one way or the other.
Listen to Carol
I have
It's a fixed solo, which he did for most of the tour.
Technically you are 100% right. But the result is so good it doesn't matter much to me. There really isn't much to prove if the objective is to provide the best product to the people.
The value of true live recordings is rather subjective. I'm not so sure I can quantify what it means to me. There are some live recordings like Frampton Comes Alive that really draw you in with the audience sounds and participation and there are studio recordings that were basically recorded live in the studio where you can't tell what has been overdubbed. And of course the hybrids when the live flavor comes thru but overdubs have been done and the live recordiings like Fonda Theater where "corrections" have been made.
But I must admit there is a wow factor involved when a hot band is captured live and no overdubs are done. Allman Brothers at Fillmore East comes to mind.
What does a true live album/recording mean to you kleerie?
Two of my favourites (the Allman Brothers' and Derek & The Dominos' respective Fillmore East albums) don't have overdubs, so far as I'm aware. At most, one or two songs are spliced together from different performances. And the guitar fixes on Live At Leeds and TSRTS are nowhere near as significant as the ones on Ya-Ya's.
It's quite different/ edited.
Good man
Probably Richards being a controle freak.
yes dandelion is a good man (i assume he is male) and yes El Mocambo kills. it's the only side of LYL i listen to, the rest is rubbish.
The acetates had already overdubbed versions - with slightly different mixes and edits though, most notably on Sympathy For The Devil including a verse that was cut out on the final release. That's at least how I remember it.
In general I have nothing against artists overdubbing live recordings for official releases to make it as good as possible. YaYas, as it is, is a masterpiece. The "warts 'n' all" thing - that's what bootlegs are for. Or archive live releases who because of their very nature attract only a handful of forgiving die-hards compared to the general album-buying public.
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I like live music more than studio music, however great the latter can be. But nothing, not even the best sound equipment at home, can defeat the live experience of music, no matter what music it is. It doesn't have to be perfect, it doesn't have to be perfectly in tune, but it fascinates me to hear how it really was played. So to me a true live recording is second best to a live experience. It's pure and vulnerable, different from any studio album.
i agree with you. have you seen the stones on this tour? i would strongly recommend it.
No I wouldn't do that, even if it were for free. I'm a stubborn taylorite and I don't like the live Stones any longer since 1975. I saw them nonetheless in 1976 and 1982 and heard my judgement confirmed. So I'm just half a fan, though the firt 10 years count for so much more.
In 1973 it was pure magic and overwhelming, in 1976 it was, well, enjoyable but also disappointing, but in 1982 it was all over for me. At that time they were also an anachronism. The Stones belong to the sixties and the first years of the seventies to me. In that era they were also societally relevant.
Funnily enough I like the studio Stones since 1975 absolutely more than the live Stones, though the last years I almost only listen to the live Stones from the Taylor-era. They never bore me.
Or a producer?
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Re: And another guitar overdub on Ya-Ya's
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Date: July 2, 2015 12:49
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Does anybody know if Keith or other band members also wiped/dubbed their tracks on YAYa's? DP?
According to Mathijs Keith overdubbed parts of his rhythm track on SCB. I'm not quite convinced, but will listen, as that particular part sounds fatter snd fuller.
But, if memory serves, it sounds fuller on the bootlegs, too. Will check.
Jagger's voice sounds overdubbed, you hear it twice, I think Keith himself changed things on carol - his solo , Taylor's guitar solo om MR sounds like an overdub,., and his sound on LWM, a fuzz box (?) could be an edit as well.
And I wonder if the record has been remastered earlier on, as far as I remember Wyman played several bum notes, they seem to be gone. But that could be my memory serving me badly.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-07-02 12:54 by LuxuryStones.
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Date: July 2, 2015 16:26
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It is a great live album also with some studio works. Also waiting for Columbus of little feat has got a lot of overdubs and it is brilliant
Waiting For Columbus is one of my all time faves since it was released, way back in 1978. And it will ever be.
When the remastered and expanded Version was released in 2002, I read in the liner notes for the first time that on the album are many overdubs and edits.
But I don´t mind, it remains one of my faves of all times, not only live recordings, but recordings in general.
And for me it´s the same with GYYYO.
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Date: July 2, 2015 16:35
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It is a great live album also with some studio works. Also waiting for Columbus of little feat has got a lot of overdubs and it is brilliant
Waiting For Columbus is one of my all time faves since it was released, way back in 1978. And it will ever be.
When the remastered and expanded Version was released in 2002, I read in the liner notes for the first time that on the album are many overdubs and edits.
But I don´t mind, it remains one of my faves of all times, not only live recordings, but recordings in general.
And for me it´s the same with GYYYO.
Never get tired of Waiting for Columbus (and Little Feat music in general). Best live album ever made, imo.
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Date: July 2, 2015 18:56
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I think it's ok that Keith was covering for Taylor's rhythm skills, it's what band mates are supposed to do - cover for one another. Not quit and then complain for 40 years.
Taylor could have done it himself if needed, he was perfectly competent.
Btw, have you served?
no, but i know exactly what you mean ;-)
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Date: July 2, 2015 19:08
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It is a great live album also with some studio works. Also waiting for Columbus of little feat has got a lot of overdubs and it is brilliant
Waiting For Columbus is one of my all time faves since it was released, way back in 1978. And it will ever be.
When the remastered and expanded Version was released in 2002, I read in the liner notes for the first time that on the album are many overdubs and edits.
But I don´t mind, it remains one of my faves of all times, not only live recordings, but recordings in general.
And for me it´s the same with GYYYO.
But with (so many) overdubs, it's no longer a live album, but a hybrid between a live and a studio album.
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Date: July 2, 2015 19:13
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It is a great live album also with some studio works. Also waiting for Columbus of little feat has got a lot of overdubs and it is brilliant
Waiting For Columbus is one of my all time faves since it was released, way back in 1978. And it will ever be.
When the remastered and expanded Version was released in 2002, I read in the liner notes for the first time that on the album are many overdubs and edits.
But I don´t mind, it remains one of my faves of all times, not only live recordings, but recordings in general.
And for me it´s the same with GYYYO.
But with (so many) overdubs, it's no longer a live album, but a hybrid between a live and a studio album.
Indeed, and no matter how good many of the performances are in and of themselves, it begins to lose some of its attraction for me the more I realise how much of it is essentially just Keith soloing over his own backing track.
Re: And another guitar overdub on Ya-Ya's
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Date: July 2, 2015 19:15
Did Keith also add solo overdubs? I thought it was just rhythm guitar?
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Date: July 2, 2015 19:23
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It is a great live album also with some studio works. Also waiting for Columbus of little feat has got a lot of overdubs and it is brilliant
Waiting For Columbus is one of my all time faves since it was released, way back in 1978. And it will ever be.
When the remastered and expanded Version was released in 2002, I read in the liner notes for the first time that on the album are many overdubs and edits.
But I don´t mind, it remains one of my faves of all times, not only live recordings, but recordings in general.
And for me it´s the same with GYYYO.
But with (so many) overdubs, it's no longer a live album, but a hybrid between a live and a studio album.
yes, it was great once they got ron wood and didn't have to overdub their live albums as much.
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Date: July 2, 2015 19:28
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It is a great live album also with some studio works. Also waiting for Columbus of little feat has got a lot of overdubs and it is brilliant
Waiting For Columbus is one of my all time faves since it was released, way back in 1978. And it will ever be.
When the remastered and expanded Version was released in 2002, I read in the liner notes for the first time that on the album are many overdubs and edits.
But I don´t mind, it remains one of my faves of all times, not only live recordings, but recordings in general.
And for me it´s the same with GYYYO.
But with (so many) overdubs, it's no longer a live album, but a hybrid between a live and a studio album.
yes, it was great once they got ron wood and didn't have to overdub their live albums as much.
The very same man who plays no less than three guitars on Crackin' Up?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-07-02 19:32 by DandelionPowderman.
Re: And another guitar overdub on Ya-Ya's
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Date: July 2, 2015 19:32
I'm no expert, but a comparison between Ya-Ya's and live'r Than You'll Ever Be, leads to a major conclusion: Ya-Ya's is not as 'live' as the Stones themselves would make out.
Re: And another guitar overdub on Ya-Ya's
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Date: July 2, 2015 19:38
Then again, they "didn't quite hit it before Detroit"...
Re: And another guitar overdub on Ya-Ya's
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Date: July 2, 2015 19:42
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Just found another guitar overdub on Ya-Ya's...During Keith's solo on Honky Tonk Women, Taylor's counter rhythm guitar is removed and replaced by Richards playing an heavy, straight forward Berry rhythm.
So now we have:
JJF - Taylor partially removed during the outro section (the E - D - C# - B parts)
Carol - Taylor's main rhythm part, overdubbed by Richards. Taylor's counter turn-arounds still present
Stray Cat - Richards standard tuned rhythm guitar during the verses ('oh yeah, you're a strange stray cat') replaced with a much heavier open-tuned rhythm guitar
Midnight Rambler - Taylor removed during parts of the slow, middle piece. Probably due to tuning problems / tuning up
Were any of the bonus tracks, Satisfaction etc, from the 2009 release overdubbed?
Little Queenie - Taylors main rhythm guitar replaced by Richards
Honky Tonk Woman – Taylor’s rhythm guitar replaced in the solo section
Mathijs
Re: And another guitar overdub on Ya-Ya's
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Date: July 2, 2015 19:42
pretty much every live record has overdubs on it and comes up here every little while.
then we have to tell a bunch of fans that yes-there are dubs on live at leeds,the song remains the same,ya ya's and every other live record that you love.and by the way there is no santa claus.
then we get the "hey,[insert name of record no one has heard of here] has not one overdub on it.then we all take time out to yawn and think about how much we dont care.
then we have to tell a bunch of fans that yes-there are dubs on live at leeds,the song remains the same,ya ya's and every other live record that you love.and by the way there is no santa claus.
then we get the "hey,[insert name of record no one has heard of here] has not one overdub on it.then we all take time out to yawn and think about how much we dont care.
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Date: July 2, 2015 19:51
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Did Keith also add solo overdubs? I thought it was just rhythm guitar?
I don't have access to the source bootlegs, but have often heard it said that Keith replaced some of the lead guitar on Carol (at least) post hoc - perhaps not the solo itself, but rather the fills. Mathijs can probably confirm one way or the other.
Re: And another guitar overdub on Ya-Ya's
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Date: July 2, 2015 19:53
I don't hear any overdubs on LA Friday.....
Re: And another guitar overdub on Ya-Ya's
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Date: July 2, 2015 19:58
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Did Keith also add solo overdubs? I thought it was just rhythm guitar?
Listen to Carol
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Date: July 2, 2015 20:13
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Did Keith also add solo overdubs? I thought it was just rhythm guitar?
Listen to Carol
I have
It's a fixed solo, which he did for most of the tour.Re: And another guitar overdub on Ya-Ya's
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Date: July 2, 2015 20:15
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It is a great live album also with some studio works. Also waiting for Columbus of little feat has got a lot of overdubs and it is brilliant
Waiting For Columbus is one of my all time faves since it was released, way back in 1978. And it will ever be.
When the remastered and expanded Version was released in 2002, I read in the liner notes for the first time that on the album are many overdubs and edits.
But I don´t mind, it remains one of my faves of all times, not only live recordings, but recordings in general.
And for me it´s the same with GYYYO.
But with (so many) overdubs, it's no longer a live album, but a hybrid between a live and a studio album.
yes, it was great once they got ron wood and didn't have to overdub their live albums as much.
Re: And another guitar overdub on Ya-Ya's
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Date: July 2, 2015 20:15
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It is a great live album also with some studio works. Also waiting for Columbus of little feat has got a lot of overdubs and it is brilliant
Waiting For Columbus is one of my all time faves since it was released, way back in 1978. And it will ever be.
When the remastered and expanded Version was released in 2002, I read in the liner notes for the first time that on the album are many overdubs and edits.
But I don´t mind, it remains one of my faves of all times, not only live recordings, but recordings in general.
And for me it´s the same with GYYYO.
But with (so many) overdubs, it's no longer a live album, but a hybrid between a live and a studio album.
Technically you are 100% right. But the result is so good it doesn't matter much to me. There really isn't much to prove if the objective is to provide the best product to the people.
The value of true live recordings is rather subjective. I'm not so sure I can quantify what it means to me. There are some live recordings like Frampton Comes Alive that really draw you in with the audience sounds and participation and there are studio recordings that were basically recorded live in the studio where you can't tell what has been overdubbed. And of course the hybrids when the live flavor comes thru but overdubs have been done and the live recordiings like Fonda Theater where "corrections" have been made.
But I must admit there is a wow factor involved when a hot band is captured live and no overdubs are done. Allman Brothers at Fillmore East comes to mind.
What does a true live album/recording mean to you kleerie?
Re: And another guitar overdub on Ya-Ya's
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Date: July 2, 2015 20:17
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pretty much every live record has overdubs on it and comes up here every little while.
then we have to tell a bunch of fans that yes-there are dubs on live at leeds,the song remains the same,ya ya's and every other live record that you love.and by the way there is no santa claus.
then we get the "hey,[insert name of record no one has heard of here] has not one overdub on it.then we all take time out to yawn and think about how much we dont care.
Two of my favourites (the Allman Brothers' and Derek & The Dominos' respective Fillmore East albums) don't have overdubs, so far as I'm aware. At most, one or two songs are spliced together from different performances. And the guitar fixes on Live At Leeds and TSRTS are nowhere near as significant as the ones on Ya-Ya's.
Re: And another guitar overdub on Ya-Ya's
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Date: July 2, 2015 20:23
Have I missed something? Because I remember people saying that the parts Keith overdubbed were insignificant and that the acetates from NYC sounded just as good.
@ DoomandGloom: The El Mocambo side on LYL is imo just as good as Ya Yas.
@ DoomandGloom: The El Mocambo side on LYL is imo just as good as Ya Yas.
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Date: July 2, 2015 20:48
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Did Keith also add solo overdubs? I thought it was just rhythm guitar?
Listen to Carol
I have
It's quite different/ edited.
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Date: July 2, 2015 20:54
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Have I missed something? Because I remember people saying that the parts Keith overdubbed were insignificant and that the acetates from NYC sounded just as good.
@ DoomandGloom: The El Mocambo side on LYL is imo just as good as Ya Yas.
Good man
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Date: July 2, 2015 21:22
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Why can´t the overdubbed rhythm parts of Taylor, especcially on Carol and Queenie, not be overdubbed by Taylor? I think he plays a very good Berry rhythm guitar on Let It Rock (Leeds and Marquee) and Star STar (Brüssel).
Probably Richards being a controle freak.
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Date: July 2, 2015 21:42
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Have I missed something? Because I remember people saying that the parts Keith overdubbed were insignificant and that the acetates from NYC sounded just as good.
@ DoomandGloom: The El Mocambo side on LYL is imo just as good as Ya Yas.
Good man
yes dandelion is a good man (i assume he is male) and yes El Mocambo kills. it's the only side of LYL i listen to, the rest is rubbish.
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Date: July 2, 2015 21:59
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Have I missed something? Because I remember people saying that the parts Keith overdubbed were insignificant and that the acetates from NYC sounded just as good.
@ DoomandGloom: The El Mocambo side on LYL is imo just as good as Ya Yas.
The acetates had already overdubbed versions - with slightly different mixes and edits though, most notably on Sympathy For The Devil including a verse that was cut out on the final release. That's at least how I remember it.
In general I have nothing against artists overdubbing live recordings for official releases to make it as good as possible. YaYas, as it is, is a masterpiece. The "warts 'n' all" thing - that's what bootlegs are for. Or archive live releases who because of their very nature attract only a handful of forgiving die-hards compared to the general album-buying public.
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Date: July 2, 2015 22:49
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It is a great live album also with some studio works. Also waiting for Columbus of little feat has got a lot of overdubs and it is brilliant
Waiting For Columbus is one of my all time faves since it was released, way back in 1978. And it will ever be.
When the remastered and expanded Version was released in 2002, I read in the liner notes for the first time that on the album are many overdubs and edits.
But I don´t mind, it remains one of my faves of all times, not only live recordings, but recordings in general.
And for me it´s the same with GYYYO.
But with (so many) overdubs, it's no longer a live album, but a hybrid between a live and a studio album.
Technically you are 100% right. But the result is so good it doesn't matter much to me. There really isn't much to prove if the objective is to provide the best product to the people.
The value of true live recordings is rather subjective. I'm not so sure I can quantify what it means to me. There are some live recordings like Frampton Comes Alive that really draw you in with the audience sounds and participation and there are studio recordings that were basically recorded live in the studio where you can't tell what has been overdubbed. And of course the hybrids when the live flavor comes thru but overdubs have been done and the live recordiings like Fonda Theater where "corrections" have been made.
But I must admit there is a wow factor involved when a hot band is captured live and no overdubs are done. Allman Brothers at Fillmore East comes to mind.
What does a true live album/recording mean to you kleerie?
I like live music more than studio music, however great the latter can be. But nothing, not even the best sound equipment at home, can defeat the live experience of music, no matter what music it is. It doesn't have to be perfect, it doesn't have to be perfectly in tune, but it fascinates me to hear how it really was played. So to me a true live recording is second best to a live experience. It's pure and vulnerable, different from any studio album.
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Date: July 2, 2015 22:51
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It is a great live album also with some studio works. Also waiting for Columbus of little feat has got a lot of overdubs and it is brilliant
Waiting For Columbus is one of my all time faves since it was released, way back in 1978. And it will ever be.
When the remastered and expanded Version was released in 2002, I read in the liner notes for the first time that on the album are many overdubs and edits.
But I don´t mind, it remains one of my faves of all times, not only live recordings, but recordings in general.
And for me it´s the same with GYYYO.
But with (so many) overdubs, it's no longer a live album, but a hybrid between a live and a studio album.
Technically you are 100% right. But the result is so good it doesn't matter much to me. There really isn't much to prove if the objective is to provide the best product to the people.
The value of true live recordings is rather subjective. I'm not so sure I can quantify what it means to me. There are some live recordings like Frampton Comes Alive that really draw you in with the audience sounds and participation and there are studio recordings that were basically recorded live in the studio where you can't tell what has been overdubbed. And of course the hybrids when the live flavor comes thru but overdubs have been done and the live recordiings like Fonda Theater where "corrections" have been made.
But I must admit there is a wow factor involved when a hot band is captured live and no overdubs are done. Allman Brothers at Fillmore East comes to mind.
What does a true live album/recording mean to you kleerie?
I like live music more than studio music, however great the latter can be. But nothing, not even the best sound equipment at home, can defeat the live experience of music, no matter what music it is. It doesn't have to be perfect, it doesn't have to be perfectly in tune, but it fascinates me to hear how it really was played. So to me a true live recording is second best to a live experience. It's pure and vulnerable, different from any studio album.
i agree with you. have you seen the stones on this tour? i would strongly recommend it.
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Date: July 2, 2015 23:07
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It is a great live album also with some studio works. Also waiting for Columbus of little feat has got a lot of overdubs and it is brilliant
Waiting For Columbus is one of my all time faves since it was released, way back in 1978. And it will ever be.
When the remastered and expanded Version was released in 2002, I read in the liner notes for the first time that on the album are many overdubs and edits.
But I don´t mind, it remains one of my faves of all times, not only live recordings, but recordings in general.
And for me it´s the same with GYYYO.
But with (so many) overdubs, it's no longer a live album, but a hybrid between a live and a studio album.
Technically you are 100% right. But the result is so good it doesn't matter much to me. There really isn't much to prove if the objective is to provide the best product to the people.
The value of true live recordings is rather subjective. I'm not so sure I can quantify what it means to me. There are some live recordings like Frampton Comes Alive that really draw you in with the audience sounds and participation and there are studio recordings that were basically recorded live in the studio where you can't tell what has been overdubbed. And of course the hybrids when the live flavor comes thru but overdubs have been done and the live recordiings like Fonda Theater where "corrections" have been made.
But I must admit there is a wow factor involved when a hot band is captured live and no overdubs are done. Allman Brothers at Fillmore East comes to mind.
What does a true live album/recording mean to you kleerie?
I like live music more than studio music, however great the latter can be. But nothing, not even the best sound equipment at home, can defeat the live experience of music, no matter what music it is. It doesn't have to be perfect, it doesn't have to be perfectly in tune, but it fascinates me to hear how it really was played. So to me a true live recording is second best to a live experience. It's pure and vulnerable, different from any studio album.
i agree with you. have you seen the stones on this tour? i would strongly recommend it.
No I wouldn't do that, even if it were for free. I'm a stubborn taylorite and I don't like the live Stones any longer since 1975. I saw them nonetheless in 1976 and 1982 and heard my judgement confirmed. So I'm just half a fan, though the firt 10 years count for so much more.
In 1973 it was pure magic and overwhelming, in 1976 it was, well, enjoyable but also disappointing, but in 1982 it was all over for me. At that time they were also an anachronism. The Stones belong to the sixties and the first years of the seventies to me. In that era they were also societally relevant.
Funnily enough I like the studio Stones since 1975 absolutely more than the live Stones, though the last years I almost only listen to the live Stones from the Taylor-era. They never bore me.
Re: And another guitar overdub on Ya-Ya's
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Date: July 2, 2015 23:35
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Why can´t the overdubbed rhythm parts of Taylor, especcially on Carol and Queenie, not be overdubbed by Taylor? I think he plays a very good Berry rhythm guitar on Let It Rock (Leeds and Marquee) and Star STar (Brüssel).
Probably Richards being a controle freak.
Or a producer?
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