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But only the Stones as a collective could have made the song as it appeared on the record. Jagger could not have never done that by himself.
Bassless speculation...
wasn't that on the Bassment Tapes?
I think Bill said himself (in the Crossfire Hurricane movie) that he's actually a fraction early on the beat, which together with Charlie and Keith creates a bit of a ”wobble” which he thinks is part of the Stones magic.
A star? That's a bit of a stretch...just saying.
Interestingly, in Satisfaction, he is actually a bit later than the main riff. Very cool to listen to.
And more bitter...
indeed, it's one of my favorite parts.
Probably not without reason.
The music business is a bitter business.
I don't see the same bitterness from Taylor.
I know from a reliable source he is. But he is used to package it in humour and in song lyrics.
That's true, Dandelion. But William and Michael have different personalities to begin with. William tend to be more outspoken while Michael is more withdrawn. So, I guess we won't hear Michael "spill his guts" all that often.
William hardly said a word during the decades he was with the band. He and Charlie were the "silent Stones." I guess now he's got more time to be outspoken!
I'm not so sure about that, Aqua. He made quite a few interviews during the 81/82 tour and then, of course, when his book was released. He even understands Swedish!
He is very clearly bitter, I agree. It's a shame the 50th anniversary didn't enable them to all make peace - it sure seemed like that was a part of the plan.
How?
...i am waiting as well, for this "clear" evidence.
By having him come on the tour, play with them, celebrate the anniversary... does that not seem to be an opportunity to make peace?
Yeah, but in what way has Taylor himself showed bitterness? I'm pretty sure he didn't write those Facebook posts himself.
Looks like Bill will partially get his way after all. The plaque will be taken down, changed and put back up. Bill wants Brian Jones name on the plaque which probably isn't going to happen and probably shouldn't. The purpose of the plaque isn't to draw attention to the creation of the Rolling Stones, just that Dartford Station was an important part of the history of the Stones concerning the Jagger Richards meeting.
Kudos again to our very own Captain Corella who wrote to the council and I believe is probably the fan the councilman mentions in the interview.
The councilman says "went on to form" will likely be changed to "went on to join".
No doubt Bill will still be upset at the plaque for some reason or another.
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Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
Koen
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Date: June 25, 2015 15:30
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nightskyman
Sympathy for the Devil (1968)
But only the Stones as a collective could have made the song as it appeared on the record. Jagger could not have never done that by himself.
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: June 25, 2015 15:30
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treaclefingers
This Bass Is Empty (without you)
Bassless speculation...
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
duke richardson
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Date: June 25, 2015 16:27
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treaclefingers
This Bass Is Empty (without you)
wasn't that on the Bassment Tapes?
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
mudbone
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Date: June 25, 2015 18:01
DJ is always a fraction too 'late' where as Bill was right in the pocket. Keeping keith and mick on their toes..make no mistake
He was NO DOUBT as important as anyone else in the band to create the stones magic.
His playing was urgent/exciting...like the band itself.
I always try to like DJ...but i just can't. He's a fine musician..there's millions of 'em.
BW was a star...in the Stones
He was NO DOUBT as important as anyone else in the band to create the stones magic.
His playing was urgent/exciting...like the band itself.
I always try to like DJ...but i just can't. He's a fine musician..there's millions of 'em.
BW was a star...in the Stones
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
LieB
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Date: June 25, 2015 19:19
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mudbone
DJ is always a fraction too 'late' where as Bill was right in the pocket. Keeping keith and mick on their toes..make no mistake
I think Bill said himself (in the Crossfire Hurricane movie) that he's actually a fraction early on the beat, which together with Charlie and Keith creates a bit of a ”wobble” which he thinks is part of the Stones magic.
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
still ill
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Date: June 25, 2015 19:26
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
z
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Date: June 25, 2015 19:33
I never forgave him too.
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
Stoneage
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Date: June 25, 2015 19:42
William is, in a way, the most talkative Stone. He's the one that actually says someting from time to time. And he's more down to earth and easy-going than the rest of them.
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
nightskyman
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Date: June 25, 2015 19:43
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mudbone
BW was a star...in the Stones
A star? That's a bit of a stretch...just saying.
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
Koen
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Date: June 25, 2015 19:52
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LieBQuote
mudbone
DJ is always a fraction too 'late' where as Bill was right in the pocket. Keeping keith and mick on their toes..make no mistake
I think Bill said himself (in the Crossfire Hurricane movie) that he's actually a fraction early on the beat, which together with Charlie and Keith creates a bit of a ”wobble” which he thinks is part of the Stones magic.
Interestingly, in Satisfaction, he is actually a bit later than the main riff. Very cool to listen to.
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: June 25, 2015 19:54
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Stoneage
William is, in a way, the most talkative Stone. He's the one that actually says someting from time to time. And he's more down to earth and easy-going than the rest of them.
And more bitter...
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
Turner68
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Date: June 25, 2015 20:01
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KoenQuote
LieBQuote
mudbone
DJ is always a fraction too 'late' where as Bill was right in the pocket. Keeping keith and mick on their toes..make no mistake
I think Bill said himself (in the Crossfire Hurricane movie) that he's actually a fraction early on the beat, which together with Charlie and Keith creates a bit of a ”wobble” which he thinks is part of the Stones magic.
Interestingly, in Satisfaction, he is actually a bit later than the main riff. Very cool to listen to.
indeed, it's one of my favorite parts.
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
kleermaker
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Date: June 25, 2015 20:03
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DandelionPowdermanQuote
Stoneage
William is, in a way, the most talkative Stone. He's the one that actually says someting from time to time. And he's more down to earth and easy-going than the rest of them.
And more bitter...
Probably not without reason.
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
Turner68
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Date: June 25, 2015 20:08
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kleermakerQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
Stoneage
William is, in a way, the most talkative Stone. He's the one that actually says someting from time to time. And he's more down to earth and easy-going than the rest of them.
And more bitter...
Probably not without reason.
The music business is a bitter business.
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: June 25, 2015 20:09
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kleermakerQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
Stoneage
William is, in a way, the most talkative Stone. He's the one that actually says someting from time to time. And he's more down to earth and easy-going than the rest of them.
And more bitter...
Probably not without reason.
I don't see the same bitterness from Taylor.
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
kleermaker
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Date: June 25, 2015 20:16
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DandelionPowdermanQuote
kleermakerQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
Stoneage
William is, in a way, the most talkative Stone. He's the one that actually says someting from time to time. And he's more down to earth and easy-going than the rest of them.
And more bitter...
Probably not without reason.
I don't see the same bitterness from Taylor.
I know from a reliable source he is. But he is used to package it in humour and in song lyrics.
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
Stoneage
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Date: June 25, 2015 20:19
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DandelionPowdermanQuote
kleermakerQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
Stoneage
William is, in a way, the most talkative Stone. He's the one that actually says someting from time to time. And he's more down to earth and easy-going than the rest of them.
And more bitter...
Probably not without reason.
I don't see the same bitterness from Taylor.
That's true, Dandelion. But William and Michael have different personalities to begin with. William tend to be more outspoken while Michael is more withdrawn. So, I guess we won't hear Michael "spill his guts" all that often.
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: June 25, 2015 20:26
You mean Michael Kevin, of course?
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
Aquamarine
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Date: June 25, 2015 20:26
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StoneageQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
kleermakerQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
Stoneage
William is, in a way, the most talkative Stone. He's the one that actually says someting from time to time. And he's more down to earth and easy-going than the rest of them.
And more bitter...
Probably not without reason.
I don't see the same bitterness from Taylor.
That's true, Dandelion. But William and Michael have different personalities to begin with. William tend to be more outspoken while Michael is more withdrawn. So, I guess we won't hear Michael "spill his guts" all that often.
William hardly said a word during the decades he was with the band. He and Charlie were the "silent Stones." I guess now he's got more time to be outspoken!
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
Stoneage
()
Date: June 25, 2015 20:30
Of course...
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
Stoneage
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Date: June 25, 2015 20:40
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AquamarineQuote
StoneageQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
kleermakerQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
Stoneage
William is, in a way, the most talkative Stone. He's the one that actually says someting from time to time. And he's more down to earth and easy-going than the rest of them.
And more bitter...
Probably not without reason.
I don't see the same bitterness from Taylor.
That's true, Dandelion. But William and Michael have different personalities to begin with. William tend to be more outspoken while Michael is more withdrawn. So, I guess we won't hear Michael "spill his guts" all that often.
William hardly said a word during the decades he was with the band. He and Charlie were the "silent Stones." I guess now he's got more time to be outspoken!
I'm not so sure about that, Aqua. He made quite a few interviews during the 81/82 tour and then, of course, when his book was released. He even understands Swedish!
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
Turner68
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Date: June 25, 2015 20:48
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kleermakerQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
kleermakerQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
Stoneage
William is, in a way, the most talkative Stone. He's the one that actually says someting from time to time. And he's more down to earth and easy-going than the rest of them.
And more bitter...
Probably not without reason.
I don't see the same bitterness from Taylor.
I know from a reliable source he is. But he is used to package it in humour and in song lyrics.
He is very clearly bitter, I agree. It's a shame the 50th anniversary didn't enable them to all make peace - it sure seemed like that was a part of the plan.
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: June 25, 2015 21:03
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Turner68Quote
kleermakerQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
kleermakerQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
Stoneage
William is, in a way, the most talkative Stone. He's the one that actually says someting from time to time. And he's more down to earth and easy-going than the rest of them.
And more bitter...
Probably not without reason.
I don't see the same bitterness from Taylor.
I know from a reliable source he is. But he is used to package it in humour and in song lyrics.
He is very clearly bitter, I agree. It's a shame the 50th anniversary didn't enable them to all make peace - it sure seemed like that was a part of the plan.
How?
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
LeonidP
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Date: June 25, 2015 21:30
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DandelionPowdermanQuote
Turner68Quote
kleermakerQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
kleermakerQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
Stoneage
William is, in a way, the most talkative Stone. He's the one that actually says someting from time to time. And he's more down to earth and easy-going than the rest of them.
And more bitter...
Probably not without reason.
I don't see the same bitterness from Taylor.
I know from a reliable source he is. But he is used to package it in humour and in song lyrics.
He is very clearly bitter, I agree. It's a shame the 50th anniversary didn't enable them to all make peace - it sure seemed like that was a part of the plan.
How?
...i am waiting as well, for this "clear" evidence.
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
Turner68
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Date: June 25, 2015 23:04
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DandelionPowdermanQuote
Turner68Quote
kleermakerQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
kleermakerQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
Stoneage
William is, in a way, the most talkative Stone. He's the one that actually says someting from time to time. And he's more down to earth and easy-going than the rest of them.
And more bitter...
Probably not without reason.
I don't see the same bitterness from Taylor.
I know from a reliable source he is. But he is used to package it in humour and in song lyrics.
He is very clearly bitter, I agree. It's a shame the 50th anniversary didn't enable them to all make peace - it sure seemed like that was a part of the plan.
How?
By having him come on the tour, play with them, celebrate the anniversary... does that not seem to be an opportunity to make peace?
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: June 25, 2015 23:09
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Turner68Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
Turner68Quote
kleermakerQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
kleermakerQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
Stoneage
William is, in a way, the most talkative Stone. He's the one that actually says someting from time to time. And he's more down to earth and easy-going than the rest of them.
And more bitter...
Probably not without reason.
I don't see the same bitterness from Taylor.
I know from a reliable source he is. But he is used to package it in humour and in song lyrics.
He is very clearly bitter, I agree. It's a shame the 50th anniversary didn't enable them to all make peace - it sure seemed like that was a part of the plan.
How?
By having him come on the tour, play with them, celebrate the anniversary... does that not seem to be an opportunity to make peace?
Yeah, but in what way has Taylor himself showed bitterness? I'm pretty sure he didn't write those Facebook posts himself.
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
Brstonesfan
()
Date: June 26, 2015 00:10
Lets just be honest and admit that Mick and Keith
have been very uncomfortable giving former members their due.
For 2 legends to treat Bill,Mick T and
Brian the way they have reflects a meanness and or
insecurity that they need to think they did it all without any
assistance from others.
have been very uncomfortable giving former members their due.
For 2 legends to treat Bill,Mick T and
Brian the way they have reflects a meanness and or
insecurity that they need to think they did it all without any
assistance from others.
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
nightskyman
()
Date: June 26, 2015 00:17
I'm sure money has nothing to do with it.
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
Naturalust
()
Date: June 26, 2015 00:36
Looks like Bill will partially get his way after all. The plaque will be taken down, changed and put back up. Bill wants Brian Jones name on the plaque which probably isn't going to happen and probably shouldn't. The purpose of the plaque isn't to draw attention to the creation of the Rolling Stones, just that Dartford Station was an important part of the history of the Stones concerning the Jagger Richards meeting.
Kudos again to our very own Captain Corella who wrote to the council and I believe is probably the fan the councilman mentions in the interview.
The councilman says "went on to form" will likely be changed to "went on to join".
No doubt Bill will still be upset at the plaque for some reason or another.
Re: Bill Wyman: The Stones Never Forgave Me For Leaving
Posted by:
triceratops
()
Date: June 26, 2015 00:39
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DandelionPowdermanI know from a reliable source he is. But he is used to package it in humour and in song lyrics.Quote
kleermaker
I don't see the same bitterness from Taylor.
I belive it, plus you are a dedicated Taylorite who has "sources". Mick Taylor is a shy guy who is not going to complain in public. He is a man of few words. MickT and Bill Wyman got screwed (cheated) on song writing credits. And album royalties in Mick Taylor's case.
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